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The Hard Way With Joe De Sena

Learn the Spartan mindset. Founder & CEO of Spartan Race and NY Times best-selling author, travels the globe seeking and answers authors, academics, athletes, adventurers, entrepreneurs, CEOs and thought leaders. It will shift your thinking, make you laugh and and give you the tools you need. He"s on a mission to find the secrets to success in all aspects of life. Not only does Joe interview epic people, he has brought together an amazing panel to break down and analyze every aspect of these

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30:15

How True Leaders Protect Their Team / DEKA

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/10/07

“So for all you leaders out there, let this pull you to the edge of your seat. When you pull up to work, or when you get ready to hit ‘play’ on the Zoom, or go live on the Zoom or Google Hangout, you need to say, ‘Wait a second, am I ready to win the caring game, today, with the people that are helping make me and this organization look good?’ And if not, you better take thirty seconds and say, ‘I gotta get my s*** straight, because it’s not straight right now,’” says Yancy Culp, co-host of the

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34:26

How this Coach is using Rugby to change lives/ Joe...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/10/05

Coach Frank McKinney, one of the first Black college rugby coaches in the US, says "I didn't get into coaching to win games. My thing is to make young men better." It turns out those are also the ingredients of a winning team. Joe De Sena, founder and CEO of Spartan, interviews coach Frank McKinney and critically acclaimed filmmaker Thomas Morgan about the new film "Scrum" and the incredible story behind it. Listen for the inspiring story, or for coach Frank's great coaching advice and

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25:27

Live Your Life With Experiences Instead of Materials,...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/10/02

“‘Let's go for a walk, you know, let's go for a run.’ And whatever she could do, if she couldn’t run, she’d walk. If she couldn’t walk, she’d do something else. And she always put an adventure on her calendar so that when she was going through her chemo, she wasn’t just a cancer patient, she was a mountaineer in training, or she was, you know, training for her next adventure race or ultra run,” says Robyn Benincasa regarding her friend, Louise. This week, we’re continuing our Classics with some

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33:16

Conquering the Seven Summits with Confidence, Mark...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/30

“Before I ever went to Mt. Everest, I saw every single YouTube video you could possibly imagine about that mountain, what I’m in for, right? All these dead bodies, all these other things, right? Like, how do you do this?” says Mark Pattison. Mark Pattison has played professional football, is an Executive at Sports Illustrated, and the 1st NFL player to climb the Seven Summits. In this episode, you’ll learn: The power of great coaches, mentors, and friends How to be mentally and physically prepared

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26:38

Are Your Kids Ready to Face Life? Joe De Sena and...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/28

As parents, it's the ultimate question. Today Joe De Sena, founder & CEO of Spartan, talks with his friend Ilias Diakomihalis about building mentally strong kids. Ilias' son is wresteler Yanni Diakomihal a 2021 US World Team member and was the 2020 Pan American champion, 2019 US Open National Champion and a two-time age-group World Champion. https://www.spartan.com/10Rules Joe De Sena’s Parenting book “10 Rules for Mental Toughness for Families” Spartan.com/toughbible The Tough Bible - the best

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27:29

Achieving Your Big Hairy Audacious Goals, Mark...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/23

“The original goal was to try to become the first NFL player to ever climb the Seven Summits, and when that got pushed out a year, I said, ‘You know what? I’m going to double down. And I’m going to not only go up and climb Mt. Everest, I’m going to come back down, and then I’m going to go up the other side,’ which is Lhotse, the fourth highest mountain in the world. And, at the end of the day, that didn’t happen because I would have died on Lhotse,” says Mark Pattison, former NFL player who just

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43:41

Coming Back from Failure / Joe De Sena & Gordon...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/21

When it feels like all hope is lost, how do you come back? Heard of the "Varsity Blues" college admission scandal? Have you asked yourself what happened next? How a family recovers? What’s next after jail after losing his career? That’s what Joe De Sena and Gordon Caplan talk about in this second half of their interview. Gordon Caplan was one of those parents, and he tells Joe De Sena (CEO & Founder of Spartan) exactly what he was thinking, and what he learned from the experience and the deep

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28:11

Uncharted Territory, with Levison Wood and Shannon...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/19

“There are fishermen…that go out swimming, with nets, they don’t even have a boat. They’ll go out with nets in crocodile infested waters. And they’re like, ‘Well, we don’t have a choice, I can’t afford a boat, I need to eat, my family needs to eat,’” says Levison Wood, explorer who walked almost the entire Nile River in one go. We’re continuing our Classics with some conversations that tell us about the uncharted places in the world that many of us haven’t even considered visiting. These explorers

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21:25

Why The Fitness Community Needs to Unite, Paul...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/16

“You know, if you think, every member that you’ve got in the gym knows three people, they know at least three people, who they’re friends with, that don’t exercise. Be a friend, bring a friend. That would be my message,” says Dr. Paul Bedford. Paul Bedford, the Retention Guru, is a fitness industry authority on retention, attrition and member experience. In this episode, you’ll learn: The fitness industry shouldn’t be waging war against others in the industry, rather, the industry should be waging

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31:53

Every Parent With High School-Aged Kids Needs to Hear...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/14

Heard of the "Varsity Blues" college admission scandal? Maybe you've asked yourself "what were those people thinking?," or maybe you thought "does everybody do that?," or maybe you asked yourself "how far would I go if I thought it would help my kids?" Gordon Caplan was one of those parents, and he tells Joe De Sena (CEO & Founder of Spartan) exactly what he was thinking, and what he learned from the experience and the deep thinking he did in jail. Every parent of a high school-age kid, and

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30:12

What Are Your Ultimate Limits? Chris Legh & Tony the...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/11

“Well you know, this was a man who, at the time, I was contemplating, ‘How do I stop today? I can’t move on, I can’t get to the end. I have a fractured leg, something’s wrong. I’m in so much pain. How can I possibly get to land’s end?’ And then you get this card… what do you do? I did what anybody else would do and I made a promise to that lady that I would get to the other side,” says Tony the Fridge. We’re back with two more awesome throwbacks. We kick it off first with Chris Legh, you may

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32:35

Recognizing Differences in Exercise to Build People...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/09

“I speak to people all the time that go, ‘I can’t do this because… of my age. Because of my gender. Because of my sexual preference. Because I’ve got hair. Because I’ve got no hair. Because of my accent. Because of where I was born. Because of the color of my skin. Because of the school I went to, or didn’t go to.’ People are carrying all of that, all of the time. And the thing I would say to the young me, and I’d also say to other people is, recognize your limiting beliefs, and recognize what

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28:51

Should You Be Eating Plant Based? Joe De Sena asks...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/07

You don't have to change everything - start with more plants. Joe De Sena, founder and CEO of Spartan, talks to the authors of "The Plant Based Athlete," Matt Frazier (founder of the No Meat Athlete community) and Robert Cheeke (vegan bodybuilder) and the how and why of eating more plants. Find out what Joe and these experts have to say about the protein hoax, and an easy first step to getting more plants in your diet. More about Matt Frazier - he’s a vegan ultrarunner, best known as the founder of

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19:25

Your Obstacles Aren’t Comparable to the Things These...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/04

“You know, I’m sure you’ve heard that old adage of, I guess it’s credited to Winston Churchill, when he gets up to speak about accomplishment...three lines he says, ‘Never give up. Never give up. Never give up.’ And I think that, without question, is the key,” says Will Roseman, Executive Director of the legendary Explorer’s Club. In this episode, we take a look back at two original Spartan Up! interviews published in 2015. The episode begins with Will Roseman telling Joe De Sena the stories of

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19:20

Take Action to Raise Your Compassion, Kelly McGonigal...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/09/02

“You know, I mentioned, when you move with other people, you trust them more and you like them more. There’s something about moving with other people and in synchrony with them that you just project a lot of good onto them,” says Kelly McGonigal, PhD. Kelly McGonigal is an award-winning Stanford lecturer, health psychologist, author, and public speaker. We finish our conversation with part 3, focusing on gaining or learning compassion. In this episode, you’ll learn: How to develop the willingness

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27:58

Task Force Pineapple, Parenting & Why Promises Matter...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/08/31

As a parent, as a warrior, as a veteran, as a human - what’s the value of keeping a promise. What’s the power of trust. What’s the power of commitment. Today Scott Mann, one of the originators of “Task Force Pineapple” the volunteer movement of Veterans and others committed to keeping a promise to the men and women they worked with side by side in Afghanistan, joins Joe De Sena and retired Col. Tim Nye to talk about all this. You can support task force pineapple at

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31:19

It's not Too late to Take Control of Your Health ,...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/08/28

“...Weight loss is hard, you know? There’s so much information out there telling you how you should live your life, to lose weight. So many fad diets, it’s pretty hard to sift through. But I would say the most important thing, and running has also taught this to me, is you need to fuel your body for the life you live,” says Kyle White, running enthusiast who has lost 185 pounds over the pandemic and through a grueling Eastern Canada winter. Filling in for Johnny Waite while he’s organizing Spartan

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24:01

What Happens in Your Brain When You Exercise with...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/08/26

“When you exercise, your brain is receiving signals from your body that really tell you who you are and what you’re capable of. So when we talk about exercise boosting confidence or being empowering, sometimes we think about it very abstractly, but I think about it very literally,” says Kelly McGonigal, PhD. Kelly McGonigal is an award-winning Stanford lecturer, health psychologist, author, and public speaker. We continue our conversation, but this time about resilience relating to happiness and

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26:08

Proven Resilience & Stress Adaptation Techniques with...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/08/24

Can you inoculate yourself from stress? Paul Taylor, of the Mind-Body Brain Performance Institute, says you can. He calls himself a "PracAdemic," part practical part academic. He's a former British Armed Forces Aircrew Officer who is now a Neuroscientist, Exercise Physiologist & Nutritionist who is doing a Ph.D. in Psychology, focusing on resilience. His training includes rigorous military combat survival and resistance to interrogation. In this episode, he and Joe discuss practical, proven

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25:31

Tackling Fear and Finding Happiness Through...

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena ·

2021/08/19

“If you can recognize that you want to feel empowered, that you want greater vitality and health, that you want to be able to deal with stress better, that you want to find a community that you belong to. Things we know are part of what exercise gives us. If you get clear about that, that “Why?” It can help you find the willingness to go,” says Kelly McGonigal, PhD. Dr. Kelly McGonigal is an award-winning Stanford lecturer, health psychologist, author, and public speaker. Health psychology may not

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