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Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter

Join Kail Lowry and Becky Hayter as these two rekindle their friendship and navigate the highs, lows, and hilarious in-betweens of life in their 30s. They’ll dive into the joys and challenges of raising families, staying true to friendships, and keeping up with pop culture - all while embracing the unpredictable mix of karma and chaos that life throws at them. With Kail’s unfiltered outlook and Becky’s infectious humor, Karma & Chaos is a refreshing, real, and relatable take on modern

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01:24:08

67. New Year, New Tea + Jordyn Jones

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2022/01/11

Kail and Vee talk about Khloe Kardashian and Tristan Thompson which leads to a discussion about polyamory and honesty. During the second half of the show, they interview Jordyn Jones (@jordynjones) and they talk about how she built her TikTok following, if she would ever do reality tv again and how she deals with online controversy. Then, this week on Down in the Dms, Kail and Vee read stories dealing with a woman who walked in on a boyfriend hooking up with her gay best friend and another one from

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01:14:55

66. You've got issues dude

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2022/01/04

Kail and Vee talk vacation plans and why Kail is scared her plans might get canceled. Vee reads a buzzfeed article about toxic things men have said to their partners and talks about how these type of men prey on women with low self-esteem. Kail and Vee also trade stories about previous partners using gifts to manipulate the relationship and Kail explains why communication is important no matter the sex you are currently dating. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Prose: Take

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01:30:34

65. Hold on, we're doing healthy girl sh*t

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/12/28

Kail gets diagnosed with depression and starts to connect the dots of why she has been feeling this way for a while. She reflects on how it influenced her reaction to certain events in her life and why it's important to know where to draw the line in defending oneself. With the new year coming up, Vee and Kail ask themselves were they want to be in five years. Also, Kail provides a house update and a Rate My Sex follow up. Plus a Down in the DMs stories about people who received a healthy dose of

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01:24:38

64. They keep giving us mad content

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/12/21

Kail offers Vee some advice about building a house after running into some roadblocks trying to finish her own. Then Kail brings up some controversial posts she came across including people arguing over who in the family to serve first at dinner and a Grandma who bought matching pajamas for all grandkids accept her step-grandchild. Vee is struggling with how much freedom to give her daughter and talks about the heavy influence social media has on young girls. Then they read a Down in the DM from

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01:26:26

63. Love and Betrayal + Never Have I Ever

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/12/14

Vee details her recent "near death" experience getting trapped in a shed. Kail and Vee discuss Selling Sunset on Netflix and play "Never Have I Ever" based on listener submissions. Hear their responses to submissions dealing with threesomes, mile high clubs, and car sex. Then they read a Down in the Dm from someone who was catfished on a phone chat hotline and one from someone who was betrayed by her best friend. Better Help: listeners get 10% off their first month at

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01:04:46

62. Kitchen Sets and Rate My Sex

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/12/07

Kail comes up with a potential new segment for a live show and it involves contacting a few exes. She then talks about a social media post she responded to regarding the different conditions men and women have for their partners. Vee brings up a debate about Christmas gifts and how certain toys reinforce gender roles. They also read a Down in the DM from someone who can't quit her three year affair with a neighbor and another Down in the DM from someone who discovered that her neighbor is her

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01:26:33

61. Go ’head mama

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/11/30

Kail and Vee recap their Thanksgiving, and discuss why the holiday has been feeling less special lately. Vee talks about teaching her daughter how to be more resilient and Kail gets frustrated dealing with car insurance. They also discuss the Tami Roman controversy and read Down in the DMs dealing with double lives and karma. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Luminess: Right now if you go to BreezeAirbrush.com/MAMADRAMA, you’ll receive 50% OFF their airbrush makeup system PLUS

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01:11:54

60. Bonus Bonus Moms

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/11/23

Kail and Vee talk to Megan and Tiffany AKA Moms Of Tampa (@momsoftampa) and take a deep dive into their co-parenting dynamic. Find out how they formed an unlikely friendship, how they deal with skeptical parents and how they went viral on TikTok. Then Kail and Vee read a Down in the DM from a listener whose boyfriend created a fake autopsy report to cover up his infidelity. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Better Help: Our listeners get 10% off their first month of online

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01:11:53

59. I'm N Luv (Wit A Stripper)

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/11/16

Vee talks about dealing with back pain and her recent struggle with depression. Although she previously had a bad experience with a therapist, Vee decides to give therapy another go. Kail describes why she decided to go to therapy in the first place and tells Vee the type of therapist she needs to get. They both discuss the stigma behind mental illness and why it's hard for people in America to get the help they need. Then they read a down in the DM about falling in love with a stripper which brings

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01:10:54

58. baby mamas all trauma

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/11/09

Vee opens up about how she keeps putting unnecessary pressure on herself. She feels that she needs to learn to let go and not hold herself back. Then, while discussing fitness goals, Vee tries to convince Kail to learn pole dancing which leads them to talk about their favorite "toys" and Kail recalls a story where she had her "D**k on the table". Kail also describes the recent online criticism she received when she revealed she prefers to have a partner who doesn't have any kids. Please support

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01:07:25

57. Granny Panties and Thottery

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/11/02

On this episode of BMND, Kail has an embarrassing slip of the tongue while talking to a water-heater repair man. Vee's dog keeps escaping which leads to an awkward situation with a neighbor. Also, Kail and Vee talk Halloween costumes, the Kardashians and read a DM from someone who tries to remain a supportive friend while listening to her best friend's heaux tales. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! BetterHelp: Our listeners get 10% off their first month of online therapy at

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01:10:53

56. Haunted Rooms and Scary Clowns

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/10/26

On this Halloween edition of BMND, Kail and Vee talk about why cemeteries give them the creeps, what their favorite scary movie character is, and what movies freaked them out as kids. They also swap terrifying stories that they personally experienced and read creepy stories from listeners. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Purple Mattress: Go to Purple.com/mamadrama10 and use code mamadrama10. For a limited time you can get 10% off any order of $200 or more.

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00:59:34

55. GhEttO MaMi

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/10/19

Kail and Vee talk about their old social media screen names and what it was like talking to strangers online when they were teenagers. They also discuss love at first sight, a catfishing horror story, and the pros and cons of having the grandparents watch the kids. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Nuts.com: New Nuts.com customers get free shipping on your first order when you text DRAMA to 64-000.

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01:06:55

54. Social Anxiety & Awkward Playdates

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/10/12

Kail and Vee discuss parties and how the older they get the less they want people over to the house. They also talk about setting up playdates for the kids, what the proper etiquette should be for the parents and how to navigate them when you have social anxiety.

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01:14:15

53. Our Birth Stories

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/10/05

Kail and Vee share their birth stories. Each faced their own unique set of challenges and they offer advice dealing with the epidural, breast feeding and pushy nurses. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Warby Parker: Try 5 pairs of glasses at home for free at warbyparker.com/mamadrama Better Help: BABY MAMA NO DRAMA listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/MAMADRAMA.

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01:03:28

52. Thirty and Worthy

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/09/28

Vee tells Kail all about her romantic 30th birthday vacation to Jamaica. While she is nostalgically sad that her 20's are over, Vee is looking forward to the beginning of a new life chapter. Both mamas share the ways in which they plan to unapologetically embrace their authentic selves in their 30's. The girls also read two wild stories that dropped into their DMs. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Purple Mattress: Get 10% off any order of $200 or more! Go to

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01:04:52

51. Family Trees and Red Flags with Skyelar Rasmussen

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/09/21

Kail and Vee talk to Skyelar (@skyelarrasmussen) who posted a crazy family tree story on TikTok. Kail and Vee try to follow along but quickly discover how confusing it can get. Then, Kail and Vee debate the type of red flags they look out for when dating someone new and what a friend should do if they see those red flags first. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! GoodRx: Start saving up to 80% on your prescriptions today. Go to GoodRX.com/mamadrama Laithwaites: Get six amazing

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01:28:15

50. Fighting for Custody Across the Border with Annie...

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/09/14

Kail and Vee talk to Annie (@annigrc) who gained notoriety on TikTok by detailing her experience getting deported to Mexico, forcing her to leave her kids behind. Annie describes what it is like dealing with baby daddy drama while in another country and how ICE leaves women in a very dangerous situation once they get sent over the border. This episode is sponsored by Raycon: Raycon: Get 15% off your order when you go to buyraycon.com/mamadrama

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00:54:24

49: Cheating and Extortion

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/09/07

Kail and Vee swap cheating stories this week. As if getting cheated on isn't traumatic enough, Kail details her experience with being extorted after her partner betrayed her. Vee discusses what it was like to have her first love cheat on her in high school. Both women share what they learned and how they navigated complicated feelings toward the people who hurt them. Kail and Vee read and weigh in on podcast listeners' cheating stories. This episode is sponsored by: Best Fiends Music by: Loyalty

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01:07:07

48: Parental Relationships

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/08/31

This week Kail and Vee are reading through some listener submitted stories! Lots of relationship drama, cheating, and friend tea. Kail and Vee give their opinions on the situations and give advice on what they think can be done. Plus Kail and Vee talk about their relationship with their parents and stepparents growing up, and how it has changed. What was the lasting effect and where do they stand now? This episode was sponsored by: Purple Music by: Loyalty Freak Music

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