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The Hustle

What does it take to maintain a career in music? We track down members of bands that we love and find out what their lives are like now.

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02:56:50

Episode 332 - Gary Langan

The Hustle ·

2021/09/15

Can you imagine what it must have been like to actually work with Queen on "Bohemian Rhapsody"? Producer Gary Langan can say he was there! Gary's done a lot, but his career really started to take off in the early 80s when he was a member of Trevor Horn's production team. That connection had him working on landmark albums by Yes, ABC and Malcolm McLaren. He went on to do his own work with artists like Spandau Ballet, Public Image Ltd, Then Jerico, Scritti Politti, The Dream Academy and Billy Idol. We

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01:30:50

Episode 331 - Kasim Sulton of Utopia/Todd...

The Hustle ·

2021/09/08

This week is one of the best sidemen in the business, Kasim Sulton! Kasim hit the big leagues when he joined Utopia in the mid-70s where he stayed for about a decade. Of course this formed the bond with Todd Rundgren that has remained to this day. In addition there have been stints with Meat Loaf, Joan Jett, Hall and Oates, Blue Oyster Cult, the Indigo Girls and many more. When he has the time, he releases solo albums, including his latest, Kasim 2021 (produced by former guest Phil Thornalley),

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01:18:24

Episode 330 - Ian McNabb of the Icicle Works/Solo

The Hustle ·

2021/09/01

As great as the Icicle Works were, they will forever be remembered for one perfect moment, the still gorgeous "Birds Fly (Whisper to a Scream)". After that one hit in the States (and a few more in the UK), the band called it quits in the 90s and lead singer Ian McNabb has been going strong ever since. He's been on an especially epic hot streak the last few years with several exceptional albums in a row, capped off with his latest, Utopian. Ian discusses very openly the history of Icicle Works, how

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01:23:44

Episode 329 - Glenn Tilbrook of Squeeze/Solo

The Hustle ·

2021/08/25

The duo of Difford and Tillbrook are up there with Jagger/Richards, Lennon/McCartney, John/Taupin and Holland/Dozier/Holland as one of history's greatest songwriting teams. Glenn's knack for a melody has always provided the perfect space for Chris's intelligent lyrics. Today, Squeeze is as busy as ever. They're currently on tour (some dates as openers for Hall & Oates), and Glenn continues to release strong albums, both with Squeeze and solo. Glenn and I discuss the history of the band, the stories

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01:24:08

Deep Dive - Ellen Foley on Nightout (1979)

The Hustle ·

2021/08/23

From out of nowhere, former guest Ellen Foley has released one of the best rock albums of 2021. Her latest work (and only her second in 40 years), Fighting Words hearkens back to her glam rock beginnings when she was a beautiful instrument in the hands of legends like Ian Hunter and Mick Ronson. This is why, in addition to discussing the new album, we deep dive her debut album Nightout that features those two greats and, in some ways, feels like an extension of the music she had been making with

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02:32:14

Episode 328 - Guy Pratt

The Hustle ·

2021/08/18

These days Guy Pratt might be best known as the co-host of the second best (😉) music podcast in the world: Rockonteurs, which he does with his buddy Gary Kemp of Spandau Ballet. They bring so many years of experience and music love to every conversation, it's just about the best thing out there. Guy's experience includes some of everything. He started out with Icehouse in the early 80s, toured with Pink Floyd in the late 80s and played with everyone from Bryan Ferry to Madonna to Michael Jackson to

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02:32:58

Episode 327 - Steve Smith of the Vapors/Tony Marsico...

The Hustle ·

2021/08/10

This week is a special two-fer: two great bass players from two great 80s bands that are releasing new music this weekend. We start with Vapors bassist Steve Smith. Everyone knows the Vapors from their enduring hit "Turning Japanese", but the fantastic band only managed two great albums in the early 80s before calling it quits. Finally, a couple years ago they came back "together" for a long-awaited third album called Together that has been welcomed warmly. Now they're enjoying playing 80s festivals

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01:29:26

Episode 326 - Lyle Workman

The Hustle ·

2021/08/03

Guitarist Lyle Workman is one of the more successful multi-hyphenates. He began his career in the 80s as a member of Bourgeois Tagg where he co-wrote their biggest hit, the beautiful "I Don't Mind At All". When that band broke up, he became a hugely in demand sideman and session guitarist where he lent his talents to artists like Jellyfish, Frank Black, They Might Be Giants, Alanis Morissette, Bryan Adams, Pat Monahan, Sting, Todd Rundgren and many others. As if that wasn't enough, he eventually

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01:02:27

Episode 325 - Andy Scott of Sweet

The Hustle ·

2021/07/27

Don't we all kind of wish we'd been in London in the 70s absorbing all the fantastic music pouring out? One of the greatest that doesn't get enough credit is glam rockers Sweet. Known for eternal jams like "Ballroom Blitz", "Fox on the Run" and "Love Is Like Oxygen", Sweet (with the help of Nicky Chinn and Mike Chapman) married sparkling, but heavy, guitar riffs with perfect pop songs like few others. Today, guitarist Andy Scott is carrying on the Sweet name and released a great album of reworked

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02:04:31

2021 Recap vol.2

The Hustle ·

2021/07/26

For the latest Recap Jon is joined by Hustle CMO Andy Schaal to discuss the last three months of podcasting Commando Style! No edits, no songs, no production. Totally live. We have to kick it off with some very sad news but then we cover newsworthy topics and, of course, all the episodes from April, May and June. Thanks everybody for your continued support. www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

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01:32:04

Episode 324 - Paula Cole

The Hustle ·

2021/07/21

Paula Cole was one of the key figures of the "Lilith Fair Generation" - that class of fantastic female artists like Sarah McLachlan, Shawn Colvin, India Arie, Joan Osbourne, and many more - whose artistry finally got the attention it deserved. Sadly, when the spotlight on Lilith moved on it moved off many of them too. But, Paula has consistently released strong albums ever since and her latest, American Quilt is her doing gorgeous versions of many American spirituals and folk songs from history

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01:30:22

Book Club - Joel Miller author of Memoir of a Roadie

The Hustle ·

2021/07/19

In his early 20s Joel Miller, like most of us, was floating. There was telesales, film production work, and other things. He eventually decided to try his hand at being a roadie and quickly joined a Stone Temple Pilots tour where he rose up the ranks. This lead to tours and interactions with Guns n Roses, the Cranberries, and many others. He decided to write about his experience in his entertaining book Memoir of a Roadie. In this discussion, Jon and Dave bro down with Joel about his experience and

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50:54

Bonus - The Music Of Your Youth on Pretty Much Pop

The Hustle ·

2021/07/15

Jon was invited to join the gang from Pretty Much Pop: A Culture Podcast recently to discuss how we relate as adults to the music we loved in our youth. Does it hold up? Do we ever really move on? What does it say about us if we still go back there? Will new music ever surpass the music we grew up on? The panel tackles these topics in an engaging discussion. Go in the PMP archives and find other eps you might like. It's good stuff!

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01:36:19

Episode 323 - Dennis DeYoung of Styx/Solo

The Hustle ·

2021/07/14

Dennis DeYoung is saying goodbye. Last month he released what he says will be his final studio album, the killer 26 East Vol.2 (the equally excellent Vol.1 came out last year). But before he goes off into retirement, he agreed to share with us his thoughts on just about everything. Dennis holds court on Styx and it's various iterations, capitalism, punk rock, lockdown, his hits, his solo career, prog rock, street cred, marriage and a million other things. If you know Dennis, you also know the guy is

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01:03:05

Bonus - Michael Ciravolo of Beauty in Chaos

The Hustle ·

2021/07/12

We don't normally cover new bands on the Hustle, but we're making a special exception this time. Beauty in Chaos is the brainchild of musician Michael Ciravolo. Michael is steeped in the dark goth rock of the 80s, bands like the Cure, the Mission, Gene Loves Jezebel (who he also played with). He's taken that and released two great albums (as well as two remix albums), but what's amazing is who he's gotten to appear on these albums. Here's a list - Robin Zander, Michael Anthony, Simon Gallup, Ice T,

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01:20:50

Episode 322 - Donnie Vie of Enuff Z'nuff/Solo

The Hustle ·

2021/07/07

Fans know that Enuff Z'nuff are one of the most mishandled, mismarketed and misunderstood rock bands ever. The boys from Chicago had way more in common with logical legends Cheap Trick and the Beatles than with the Poisons and Warrants they were getting lumped in with (nothing against those bands). This cost EZ the chance to truly take off like they should have. Sadly, the aftermath was drugs, bankruptcy, sex, lawsuits, you name it. Donnie left years ago for an excellent solo career, while Chip

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01:14:34

Episode 321 - Peter Coyne of The Godfathers

The Hustle ·

2021/06/30

In the late 80s the Godfathers were on to something. College radio hits like "Birth, School, Work, Death" was a swift punch in the face at a time just before that sound would become more commonplace. Covid prevented the band from celebrating their 35th anniversary to the fullest, but that will hopefully be changing soon. Frontman Peter Coyne gives us the full band history lesson, shares some killer newer tunes, tells touring stories, and even offers his tips for keeping those immaculate suits clean

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01:54:33

Episode 320 - Marcella Detroit of Shakespear's...

The Hustle ·

2021/06/23

When Shakespeare's Sister struck gold with their #1 hit "Stay" in 1992, what listeners may not have known is that singer Marcella Detroit had already put in 20 years of professional singing by then. Marcy Levy starts out in the early 70s singing with Bob Seger, then moves on to Leon Russell, and then Eric Clapton where she even co-wrote several of his songs including "Lay Down Sally". She eventually joins up with Bananarama's Siobhan Fahey for SS, but that's really a short chapter of her long career

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01:29:44

Episode 319 - Richard Jobson of the Skids

The Hustle ·

2021/06/16

Dunfermline Scotland's Skids were local legends in the late 70s. Led by lead singer Richard Jobson and guitarist Stuart Adamson (later of Big Country, of course), the band kept their punk bona fides while also writing classic anthems like "Into the Valley" and "The Saints are Coming", songs that have only gotten bigger over the years. After three albums, Stuart left for bigger things, while Richard did a little of everything - the Armoury Show with John McGeoch, spoken word, acting, TV presenting,

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01:48:18

Episode 318 - Justin Currie of Del Amitri/Solo

The Hustle ·

2021/06/09

Del Amitri's Justin Currie doesn't get enough credit for being one of the best songwriters around. The fantastic Scottish band have been at it since the mid-80s, but didn't really find their voice until the early 90s and their commercial peak soon followed when "Roll To Me" became a top 10 hit. Justin has bounced between Del Amitri and solo albums for decades now, but the band is back together for their first album in many years, Fatal Mistakes. Justin and I get deep into the process of songwriting,

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