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Pop Fiction Women

In Pop Fiction Women we deep-dive into the complicated women of books, movies and TV shows, along with the women that bring them to life behind the scenes. Think Fleabag and Phoebe Waller Bridge, Normal People and Sally Rooney, and so much more. In each episode you can expect us to: * Break down the protagonist as we ask what makes her complicated? * Identify the best scenes, which can mean sweetest, funniest, or most badass. Anything we love. * Recount the cringiest scenes. The ones that make you

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31:20

SIDEBAR: Jennifer Lopez & Bennifer 2.0

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/05/18

Introducing our “sidebar” conversations, a cheeky reference to the fact that we’re both lawyers and love to have conversations incidental to our main topics and episodes. We’re letting you in on our typical offline conversations about whatever we’re obsessing over in pop culture. And today we are talking about one of our favorite, wonderfully complicated, multi-talented, all around badass women...Jennifer Lopez! Why? Bennifer 2.0 of course. They're back on “the block” 17 years later and we're

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BONUS EPISODE: Jean Hanff Korelitz & 'The Plot':...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/05/17

We have a bonus episode where we discuss the ending of THE PLOT (that ending!?!?!). We get into an interesting debate about whether men and women have the right to tell the same stories. This is a spoiler-free teaser, but the tell-all, ask-all version of our interview with Jean will be available ONLY to Patreon members at patreon.com/popfictionwomenFollow us on Instagram and Facebook @popfictionwomen and on Twitter @pop_women. To do a full deep dive, check out our website at www.popfictionwomen.com

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Spoiler Free: Jean Hanff Korelitz & 'The Plot':...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/05/11

On this Complicated Conversation we welcome New York Times bestselling author, Jean Hanff Korelitz, the author of the novels You Should Have Known (which aired on HBO as The Undoing, starring Nicole Kidman, Hugh Grant, and Donald Sutherland), Admission (adapted as a film in 2013 starring Tina Fey), and others. Her new novel, THE PLOT, is a propulsive read about a story too good not to steal, and the writer who steals it.We chat with Jean about why the book didn't seem like the right fit for us until

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Mhairi McFarlane & 'Just Last Night': Complicated...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/05/04

We welcome internationally bestselling author, Mhairi McFarlane, who explores lifelong friendships, long-buried secrets, and unexpected love in her heartfelt, emotional new novel, Just Last Night. Sometimes complicated is too fun!** We start by discussing Eve, her complicated heroine, and how she grew organically from the story. We loved hearing about how writing for a 30-something seems to be her sweet spot. (02:40)** Speaking of complicated women, although this is Eve’s story, her best friend

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Stephanie Danler & 'Stray': Complicated Conversations...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/04/27

We welcome internationally bestselling author, Stephanie Danler, to discuss Stray, her memoir of growing up in a family shattered by lies and addiction, and of her attempts to find a life beyond the limits of her past.** We start by discussing how Stray was not the most obvious follow-up to her bestselling novel, Sweetbitter, and how she knew this was what she needed to write next (even though she didn’t want to). (01:40)** We discuss a powerful passage from Stray in which Stephanie touches on her

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Kristy Woodson Harvey & 'Under The Southern Sky':...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/04/20

We welcome USA Today bestselling author, Kristy Woodson Harvey, who starts by telling us about her new novel, Under The Southern Sky, a heart-wrenching tale of love and loss and finding yourself through it all.** From the very first page when we meet the protagonist, Amelia, the stakes are high and we were immediately hooked. Kristy shares more about that opening scene and the development of Amelia. (03:05)** The female characters in Under The Southern Sky have one of our favorite attributes of

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Joanna Rakoff & 'My Salinger Year': Complicated...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/04/14

We welcome internationally bestselling author, Joanna Rakoff, to discuss her memoir, My Salinger Year. Joanna tells the story of the year she worked as the assistant to the literary agent for JD Salinger. It's a beautiful coming of age story and now a major motion picture!** We start by discussing the exhilarating experience of seeing her story adapted for the big screen starring Margaret Qualley and Sigourney Weaver, and the role she played in the adaptation. (02:55)** The protagonist of My

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42:36

Convince Me To...Watch 'WandaVision' & Creator Jac...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/04/07

*NO SPOILERS*Welcome to a new kind of episode on Pop Fiction Women where we take you behind the scenes on our thought process for picking content and where we try to convince each other (and our listeners) to watch a show we love. ** Wandavision. Carinn explains why even if you have never watched a superhero franchise movie, you’re going to want to watch Wandavision anyway, which blends the classic family sitcom with the classic comic book drama. ** Complicated Woman: Wanda. Carinn argues that the

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46:32

Convince Me To...Watch 'I Hate Suzie' & Creators Lucy...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/04/06

*NO SPOILERS*Welcome to a new kind of episode on Pop Fiction Women where we take you behind the scenes on our thought process for picking content and where we try to convince each other (and our listeners) to watch a show we love.** I Hate Suzie. After a brief summary of the show, Kate leads with her strongest point: that Phoebe Waller Bridge is a superfan of I Hate Suzie and that there are endless comparisons between it and Fleabag! As if that wasn’t already enough, Kate points out that the show is

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'I Care A Lot' & Rosamund Pike

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/03/30

Why do only evil greedy women need to experience "karma", while evil greedy men like Tony Soprano, Gordon Gekko, Keyser Soze, Hannibal Lecter get to roam free until they're ready for their sequel??? We discuss this burning question, the brilliant Rosamund Pike, the cunning Marla Grayson and more!Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @popfictionwomen and on Twitter @pop_women. To do a full deep dive, check out our website at www.popfictionwomen.com. Stay Complicated!We’ve launched a platform at

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Kate Baer & 'What Kind of Woman': Complicated...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/03/23

We welcome #1 New York Times bestselling author and poet, Kate Baer, to discuss her debut collection of poetry, What Kind Of Woman, an instant NYT bestseller and GOOP Book Club Pick.** Kate is the first poet in our Complicated Conversations series and we start with the impossible to answer question: how do you boil down What Kind of Woman? (01:17)** The accessibility of “Instapoets” has opened up the world of poetry to many, but we were interested to hear Kate’s thoughts on this term. Poetry, she

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77:13

Unlikable Female Protagonist: Villainous or Relatable?

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/03/16

What started as a discussion of female villains became an episode on “unlikeable” female protagonists in pop fiction...their words, deeds, character traits, and permutations that we relate to. In the end we ask whether we can finally put this label to rest and how the evolution of female creators and complicated female characters is making that possible.** Sticks & Stones. We discuss the “big speeches” from these women who have fire in their bellies and chips on their shoulders: Marla Grayson

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Laurie Elizabeth Flynn & 'The Girls Are All So Nice...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/03/08

We welcome Laurie Elizabeth Flynn to discuss THE GIRLS ARE ALL SO NICE HERE, which follows Ambrosia to her college reunion where she finds she’s being circled by someone who wants revenge for things they did ten years ago.** The Girls Are All So Nice Here has a whole slew of complicated women. (02:07)** The “unlikeable female protagonist” is a label that means nothing more than women who defy convention and expectation. We loved talking with Laurie about the way women are portrayed in fiction and

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Margarita Montimore & 'Oona Out Of Order':...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/03/02

We welcome Margarita Montimore to discuss OONA OUT OF ORDER, which is a remarkably inventive novel that explores what it means to live a life fully in the moment, even if those moments are out of order.** The concept for this book is so original and fresh in the way it tackles age. Margarita discusses what inspired her to explore the disconnect between age and how you feel on the inside, time travel, and how writing this book helped her find peace with her personal timeline.(02:04)** We discuss

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The Poetry Episode: Instapoets Kate Baer & Rupi Kaur

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/02/23

We never thought we’d cover poetry on this podcast, but poetry is really having a moment! Amanda Gorman stole the inauguration spotlight then made history as the first poet at the Super Bowl. And Instapoets Kate Baer and Rupi Kaur have been garnering millions of followers on social media and breaking records on the New York Times bestseller lists for years. We may be late to the party, but we’re so glad we came!** Poems. We pick some of our favorite poems and discuss how they spoke to us. These

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Alisha Rai & "First Comes Like': Complicated...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/02/16

We welcome Alisha Rai to discuss the latest novel in her “Modern Love” series, FIRST COMES LIKE, which is a feel-good romance novel about a fauxmance turned relationship between a beauty influencer and a Bollywood star.** Alisha tells us about the time she went viral after a tweet regarding a bad date and two cake pops! Thankfully Valentine’s Day has taken a turn for the positive for her these days! (01:43)** Alisha’s social media presence is next level but that comes with a price sometimes. We were

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Valentine's Day Episode: LOVE

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/02/10

In honor of Valentine’s Day, we start by discussing what we are drawn to in romcoms, ones we’ve covered and ones we haven’t yet! Let’s unpack depictions of LOVE in pop fiction...** Express Yourself. No matter how they get there, the truly memorable moments are when someone finally says the words. Words matter to writers like us so when it’s done right, the declaration of love is everything! We discuss the “big speeches” from Dirty Dancing, Runaway Bride, The Notebook, Forces of Nature, Notting Hill,

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Alison Wisdom & 'We Can Only Save Ourselves':...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/02/02

We welcome debut author Alison Wisdom to the podcast! Listen to our spoiler-free episode before getting your copy of We Can Only Save Ourselves!Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @popfictionwomen and on Twitter @pop_women. To do a full deep dive, check out our website at www.popfictionwomen.com. Stay Complicated!We’ve launched a platform at patreon.com/popfictionwomen to keep making the podcast you love -- and to make it even better. For a one time contribution to support this episode, use venmo

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Nancy Johnson & 'The Kindest Lie': Complicated...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/02/02

We welcome debut author Nancy Johnson to the podcast! Listen to our spoiler-free episode before getting your copy of The Kindest Lie!Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @popfictionwomen and on Twitter @pop_women. To do a full deep dive, check out our website at www.popfictionwomen.com. Stay Complicated!We’ve launched a platform at patreon.com/popfictionwomen to keep making the podcast you love -- and to make it even better. For a one time contribution to support this episode, use venmo @carinn-jade

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'Bridgerton' & Julia Quinn

Pop Fiction Women ·

2021/01/20

We come out hot, talking about what made us cover this Netflix phenomenon, what this show did to us, how it divided us, and the one thing we can both agree on: Rege-Jean Page stole the show as Simon, The Duke of Hastings!** Complicated Woman - Daphne Bridgerton. While we see Daphne’s inner conflict in the first few episodes, the limited circumstances of her time, and her ambition in trying to steer her marriage, ultimately we ask whether she is complicated in ways that are harmful for the innovation

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