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What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future

Every Friday and Sunday, Slate’s popular daily news podcast What Next brings you TBD, a clear-eyed look into the future. From fake news to fake meat, algorithms to augmented reality, Lizzie O’Leary is your guide to the tech industry and the world it’s creating for us to live in. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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19:48

What Space Billionaires Cost Us

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/06/11

Over the last decade, billionaires like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, and Richard Branson have come to embody the future of space travel and exploration. What does it mean when the ideas and ambitions of a few powerful men come to dominate the conversation so thoroughly?Guest: Lucianne Walkowicz, astronomer at the Adler Planetarium and founder of the Just Space AllianceHostLizzie O’LearyThis episode is sponsored by Teamistry. You can listen here Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more

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23:09

The App That Sparked a Manhunt

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2021/06/04

Two weeks ago, as wildfires burned north of Los Angeles, the crime app Citizen offered $30,000 for information that would lead to the arrest of a suspected arsonist. They had the wrong guy. Why is Citizen offering bounties in the first place? And what does this bounty debacle say about the app’s aspirations for the future?Guest: Joseph Cox, reporter at Motherboard HostHenry Grabar Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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28:39

The App That Sparked a Manhunt

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/06/04

Two weeks ago, as wildfires burned north of Los Angeles, the crime app Citizen offered $30,000 for information that would lead to the arrest of a suspected arsonist. They had the wrong guy. Why is Citizen offering bounties in the first place? And what does this bounty debacle say about the app’s aspirations for the future? Guest: Joseph Cox, reporter at Motherboard Host Henry Grabar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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16:55

Apple and Epic’s Battle Royale

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/05/28

After years of careful planning and public spats, Apple and Epic—the maker of Fortnite—have spent the last three weeks in court, fighting over the future of mobile gaming. What happens if, for once, Apple loses?Guest: Elizabeth Lopatto, deputy editor at the Verge HostLizzie O’Leary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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22:25

Apple and Epic’s Battle Royale

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/05/28

After years of careful planning and public spats, Apple and Epic—the maker of Fortnite—have spent the last three weeks in court, fighting over the future of mobile gaming. What happens if, for once, Apple loses? Guest: Elizabeth Lopatto, deputy editor at the Verge Host Lizzie O’Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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22:07

The Hackers Who Took Down the Colonial Pipeline

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2021/05/21

Last week, a hacker group called DarkSide shut down the Colonial Pipeline, which supplies 45 percent of the fuel consumed on the East Coast. Gas prices skyrocketed, people started hoarding gas, and DarkSide walked away with over $4 million in Bitcoin. How did they do it? And what makes this hack different from those we’ve seen before?Guest: David Uberti, cybersecurity reporter at the Wall Street JournalHostLizzie O’Leary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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26:07

The Hackers Who Took Down the Colonial Pipeline

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/05/21

Last week, a hacker group called DarkSide shut down the Colonial Pipeline, which supplies 45 percent of the fuel consumed on the East Coast. Gas prices skyrocketed, people started hoarding gas, and DarkSide walked away with over $4 million in Bitcoin. How did they do it? And what makes this hack different from those we’ve seen before? Guest: David Uberti, cybersecurity reporter at the Wall Street Journal Host Lizzie O’Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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24:22

How the World’s Great Vaccination Hope Crashed

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/05/14

The Serum Institute of India was supposed to supply vaccines not just to India, but to the entire Global South. Now, with cases surging, there aren’t nearly enough vaccines for India’s population, not to mention the many countries that are relying on it. How did such a successful institution come up so short? And what are the costs of that failure? Guest: Samanth Subramanian, senior reporter at Quartz Host Lizzie O’Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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20:22

How the World’s Great Vaccination Hope Crashed

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/05/14

The Serum Institute of India was supposed to supply vaccines not just to India, but to the entire Global South. Now, with cases surging, there aren’t nearly enough vaccines for India’s population, not to mention the many countries that are relying on it. How did such a successful institution come up so short? And what are the costs of that failure?Guest: Samanth Subramanian, senior reporter at QuartzHostLizzie O’Leary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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23:11

Oversight Board to Facebook: Nice Try

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/05/07

The question of Donald Trump’s banned account--to keep it blocked, or reinstate it--is one of the toughest that Facebook has ever faced. But the social network had a plan: punt the decision to its newly minted Oversight Board, a semi-independent “Supreme Court” tasked with making hard decisions about what content stays up, and what comes down. Did that plan just backfire? Guest: Kate Klonick, professor at St. John’s University School of Law Host Lizzie O’Leary Learn more about your ad choices

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18:41

Oversight Board to Facebook: Nice Try

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/05/07

The question of Donald Trump’s banned account--to keep it blocked, or reinstate it--is one of the toughest that Facebook has ever faced. But the social network had a plan: punt the decision to its newly minted Oversight Board, a semi-independent “Supreme Court” tasked with making hard decisions about what content stays up, and what comes down. Did that plan just backfire?Guest: Kate Klonick, professor at St. John’s University School of Law HostLizzie O’Leary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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18:35

Tim Apple vs. Mark Facebook

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/04/30

There was a time—back when Steve Jobs ran Apple and Mark Zuckerberg was in his early days as Facebook’s CEO— that Apple and Facebook were friends.. Or, at worst, frenemies. But as the companies grew, so did two competing views of how the internet should work. What led to the rift between Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook? And will Apple’s new privacy rules undercut Facebook’s vision for the internet?Guest: Mike Isaac, tech reporter at the New York Times HostLizzie O’Leary Hosted on Acast. See

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23:35

Tim Apple vs. Mark Facebook

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/04/30

There was a time—back when Steve Jobs ran Apple and Mark Zuckerberg was in his early days as Facebook’s CEO— that Apple and Facebook were friends.. Or, at worst, frenemies. But as the companies grew, so did two competing views of how the internet should work. What led to the rift between Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook? And will Apple’s new privacy rules undercut Facebook’s vision for the internet? Guest: Mike Isaac, tech reporter at the New York Times Host Lizzie O’Leary Learn more about

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23:29

What's Causing the Tesla Crashes?

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/04/23

Last week, a Tesla Model S crashed into a tree in a neighborhood north of Houston. Both men inside the car were killed. But according to police, neither of them was in the driver’s seat. This is not the first crash in which Tesla’s “autopilot” feature has likely played a role. Should we really be trusting this technology? Guest: Missy Cummings, professor of electrical and computer engineering at Duke University Host Lizzie O’Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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19:29

What's Causing the Tesla Crashes?

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/04/23

Last week, a Tesla Model S crashed into a tree in a neighborhood north of Houston. Both men inside the car were killed. But according to police, neither of them was in the driver’s seat. This is not the first crash in which Tesla’s “autopilot” feature has likely played a role. Should we really be trusting this technology?Guest: Missy Cummings, professor of electrical and computer engineering at Duke UniversityHostLizzie O’Leary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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21:02

Seduced by Substack

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/04/16

Like countless venture-funded start-ups before it, Substack is “disrupting” the media industry. The newsletter service is siphoning off high-profile talent with a promise of independence and bigger paychecks. But the platform’s influence might reach far beyond the media. Will Substack change the way we think about online creators and their audiences? Can it create a new kind of relationship between them?Guest: Charlie Warzel, writer of Galaxy Brain HostLizzie O’Leary Hosted on Acast. See

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25:02

Seduced by Substack

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/04/16

Like countless venture-funded start-ups before it, Substack is “disrupting” the media industry. The newsletter service is siphoning off high-profile talent with a promise of independence and bigger paychecks. But the platform’s influence might reach far beyond the media. Will Substack change the way we think about online creators and their audiences? Can it create a new kind of relationship between them? Guest: Charlie Warzel, writer of Galaxy Brain Host Lizzie O’Leary Learn more about your

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26:28

The Rise of the Therapy Apps

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/04/09

Since the start of the pandemic, usage of apps like BetterHelp and Talkspace has skyrocketed. These apps might make mental health care more accessible, but are the products they sell really the same as therapy? Guest: Molly Fischer, features writer for the Cut at New York Magazine Host Lizzie O’Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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22:28

The Rise of the Therapy Apps

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/04/09

Since the start of the pandemic, usage of apps like BetterHelp and Talkspace has skyrocketed. These apps might make mental health care more accessible, but are the products they sell really the same as therapy?Guest: Molly Fischer, features writer for the Cut at New York MagazineHostLizzie O’Leary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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28:36

Introducing: ICYMI

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future ·

2021/04/04

ICYMI is Slate’s new podcast about internet culture. It’s a show for people who have a healthy relationship with the internet, made by people who really, really don’t. It’s hosted by Slate’s Madison Malone Kircher and Rachelle Hampton. Twice a week they’ll explore what’s trending at the top of your feeds, investigate the ghosts of internet past, and help you sound like the smartest person in your group chat. In the episode you’re about to hear, they take you on an all-access tour of Clubhouse, the

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