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Hidden Killers Live! Daily True Crime News & Breakdowns

Hidden Killers Podcast

Hidden Killers Live! is your daily true crime podcast delivering two hours of nonstop coverage every weekday. Hosted by Tony Brueski & Robin Dreeke this show dives into the most compelling stories in the true crime world — from murder trials and cold cases to criminal psychology, investigations, and the dark motives behind real-life crimes. Each episode brings a mix of breaking crime news, courtroom analysis, and raw conversation that takes you beyond the headlines. Whether it’s exploring how

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18:10

Could Mackenzie Shirilla's Mother Face Her Own Legal...

Hidden Killers Live! Daily True Crime News & Breakdowns ·

2026/06/05

Natalie Shirilla used a private coded language on recorded prison calls to communicate with her convicted daughter. Prosecutors decoded those calls and presented them as evidence at trial. In one exchange, Mackenzie allegedly asked if they could tell police she had a seizure. On a separate call, Natalie called the Russo family — the family of the man Mackenzie was convicted of killing — "evil people." Defense attorney Eric Faddis addresses whether any of this crosses a legal line.Meanwhile, Steve

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21:10

Can Mackenzie Shirilla's Prison Behavior Keep Her...

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2026/06/05

Mackenzie Shirilla's conduct file at the Ohio Reformatory for Women has thirty-six entries in less than three years — guilty on thirty-two. On recorded prison calls, she refuses rehabilitation, calls herself the third victim, and talks about becoming a life coach. Defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis breaks down what the parole board does with a record like this.Shirilla was convicted of killing Dominic Russo and Davion Flanagan in 2023 after driving her car at roughly a hundred miles

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58:31

The Crash: The Full Psychological Breakdown of the...

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2026/06/04

The courtroom saw a cold-blooded killer. Netflix saw a documentary. The public saw a debate. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott sees a clinical case that was never properly examined — and a system that convicted a teenager of premeditated murder without ever asking the questions a clinician would have started with.Scott has spent more than thirty years in forensic mental health, domestic violence work, and trauma recovery. She's the author of The Minds of Mass Killers. She's treated perpetrators and

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22:49

The Crash: Is Mackenzie Shirilla's Memory Loss Real —...

Hidden Killers Live! Daily True Crime News & Breakdowns ·

2026/06/04

A fellow inmate says the Mackenzie Shirilla in the Netflix documentary — soft-spoken, remorseful, insisting she can't remember — isn't the person she spent six months with in prison. She described someone doing her makeup, playing social games, navigating the hierarchy. The prosecution says she's been performing from day one. The families say she knows exactly what happened and chooses not to say it.But psychotherapist Shavaun Scott, who has treated trauma patients for over thirty years, says the

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15:07

The Crash: Why the Mackenzie Shirilla Relationship...

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2026/06/04

Everyone's focused on the surveillance footage — the car turning, accelerating, hitting the wall. But psychotherapist Shavaun Scott says the real evidence in the Mackenzie Shirilla case isn't on that video. It's in the relationship. And the prosecution used the relationship as a weapon without ever understanding what it was actually showing them.Shirilla was convicted of four counts of murder for the Strongsville, Ohio crash that killed Dominic Russo and Davion Flanagan. The case was built partly

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21:19

The Crash: What the Prosecution Got Wrong About...

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2026/06/04

A judge called Mackenzie Shirilla's actions "controlled, methodical, deliberate, intentional, and purposeful." Five adjectives that describe a cold, calculating mind. But what if every one of those words is a misread — what if the behavior that looked like calculation was actually the opposite?Shavaun Scott is a psychotherapist who has spent more than thirty years working with people on both sides of violence. She's treated perpetrators in forensic mental health programs. She's worked crisis teams

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59:10

The Crash: A Defense Attorney's Full Breakdown of the...

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2026/06/03

The Mackenzie Shirilla case is a catalog of failures. A defense that raised a medical condition and never proved it. A prosecution that charged murder without a confession and won in front of a single judge. A post-conviction system that rejected new evidence over a calendar technicality. And a defendant who agreed to a Netflix documentary that gave her critics more ammunition than her supporters.Bob Motta is a criminal defense trial attorney and host of the Defense Diaries podcast. He sat down to

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15:48

The Crash: What Should Mackenzie Shirilla Be Doing...

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2026/06/03

Mackenzie Shirilla's legal options are essentially gone. The conviction stands. The appeals are exhausted. The post-conviction petition was denied. She's serving fifteen years to life and won't see a parole board until 2037. So the question shifts from "can she win legally" to "what does she do now" — and criminal defense attorney Bob Motta says the answer to that question matters more than most people realize.The Netflix documentary put her back in the public eye, and the result was mixed at best

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15:23

The Crash: Was Murder the Right Charge for Mackenzie...

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2026/06/03

Murder requires intent. Not recklessness. Not negligence. Not bad judgment. Intent — formed beforehand and carried out deliberately. That's the bar the prosecution set for itself when it charged Mackenzie Shirilla with four counts of murder for the crash in Strongsville, Ohio that killed Dominic Russo and Davion Flanagan. And criminal defense attorney Bob Motta says the evidence doesn't clear it.The surveillance footage is compelling but limited — it shows the car, not the person driving it. The

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28:38

The Crash: What Should Mackenzie Shirilla's Defense...

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2026/06/03

If Mackenzie Shirilla had walked into Bob Motta's office instead of her actual attorney's, the case might look very different right now. That's not speculation — it's a function of what was missed, what was never pursued, and what was fumbled at every critical turn.The POTS defense should have been the centerpiece of the trial. A medical condition that can cause sudden loss of consciousness in a seventeen-year-old driver at five-thirty in the morning is not a throwaway detail. It's the case. But

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20:30

Why Did The Sheriff Stop Talking To Nancy Guthrie's...

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2026/06/03

In mid-May, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos confirmed in a People magazine interview that his department is no longer communicating directly with Nancy Guthrie's family. The FBI is now the sole liaison between the investigation and the Guthries. The same sheriff who stood at his podium in February and told the family he wasn't giving up is, three months later, not in direct contact with them at all.This Hidden Killers Live episode walks through every chapter of the Nancy Guthrie case, from the

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61:40

The Crash: How Many Things Went Wrong in the...

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2026/06/02

A defense attorney who never called the key medical expert. A post-conviction petition filed one day late. A bench trial where one judge made every decision. A neurologist's opinion that was never weighed on its merits. The Mackenzie Shirilla case isn't just about whether she intended to drive her car into that building — it's about how many things in the process broke along the way.Shirilla was convicted of four counts of murder for the crash in Strongsville, Ohio that killed Dominic Russo and

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19:08

The Crash: Is Mackenzie Shirilla Lying About Her...

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2026/06/02

A fellow inmate who spent six months with Mackenzie Shirilla says the woman in Netflix's The Crash — the one speaking softly from prison, expressing remorse, insisting she has no memory — isn't the person she lived with behind bars. She described someone doing her makeup, navigating the prison social hierarchy, performing a version of herself. So which Mackenzie is real? The documentary Mackenzie or the prison Mackenzie?But that question applies to everyone in this case, not just the defendant

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21:03

The Crash: How Strong Is the Case Against Mackenzie...

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2026/06/02

One judge. No jury. No deliberation room. No twelve people wrestling with reasonable doubt. The Mackenzie Shirilla murder conviction was decided by a single person in a bench trial — and in a case with evidence this ambiguous, that raises a question the system doesn't want to answer.Judge Nancy Margaret Russo heard the surveillance footage evidence, the black box data, the text messages, and the prior threat. She rendered the verdict. She imposed the sentence. She later denied Shirilla's

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22:08

The Crash: Was Mackenzie Shirilla Convicted for Her...

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2026/06/02

At her arrest, Mackenzie Shirilla asked the officers to be careful with her bracelets — gifts from Dominic Russo, the boyfriend who'd been killed in her car three months earlier. The prosecution called it evidence of someone cold enough to plan a murder. But is that really what that moment tells you — or is it telling you something else entirely about a seventeen-year-old in shock?That gap — between how behavior looks and what it actually means — is at the center of this conversation. Shirilla was

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56:04

What Kind Of People Are Behind Guthrie, Kepner And...

Hidden Killers Live! Daily True Crime News & Breakdowns ·

2026/06/01

What kind of person does each of these cases point to? That's the behavioral question two FBI veterans take on in this long-form segment. Tony Brueski is joined by retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer — with former FBI Counterintelligence chief Robin Dreeke's behavioral lens in the room — to read the people at the center of three very different stories.There's the masked figure who approached Nancy Guthrie's door in the dead of night and appeared to tamper with her camera before an

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15:57

Could One Person Really Have Killed Both Murdaughs...

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2026/06/01

Could one person really have killed both Maggie and Paul Murdaugh by himself? That's the question two FBI veterans take apart in this segment — and one of them carried a weapon on FBI SWAT for two decades, so she knows exactly what firing a shotgun at close range does to the person pulling the trigger. With Alex Murdaugh's convictions overturned and a new trial ordered, the original defense theory is suddenly relevant again: two different guns, used feet apart, and an argument that no single

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18:01

What Was Anna Kepner's Stepbrother Doing At That Door?

Hidden Killers Live! Daily True Crime News & Breakdowns ·

2026/06/01

Two FBI veterans watched the same cruise-ship footage everyone's now read about, and what they see is a person behaving like someone with something to hide. In the Anna Kepner case, unsealed records describe the 18-year-old's stepbrother on camera the night she died — cracking the cabin door, checking the hallway in both directions before slipping out. Later, when Anna's younger brother tried to come back to sleep, the account is that he was blocked at the door, told the teen was changing, with

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22:45

What Did The Masked Man At Nancy Guthrie's Door Want?

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2026/06/01

Two former FBI agents look at the same forty-one minutes and see something most people miss. In the Nancy Guthrie case, a masked figure approached the front door of an 84-year-old woman's Tucson home in the dead of night and appeared to tamper with her camera. At 1:47 a.m. the doorbell feed died. At 2:12 the software still caught a person there. By 2:28, the pacemaker inside her chest had lost its signal.This is the behavioral conversation. Tony Brueski is joined by retired FBI Special Agent

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42:21

What Does A Forensic Psychologist See In D4VD's Path...

Hidden Killers Live! Daily True Crime News & Breakdowns ·

2026/06/01

Shavaun Scott doesn't start where most people start with this case. She starts in a closet in Houston — where a homeschooled teenager with no peer socialization and no music in the house except gospel was recording tracks that would reach millions. She works forward from there because the forensic psychology question isn't what allegedly happened to Celeste Rivas Hernandez. It's what allegedly made the person prosecutors say is responsible.Scott has more than thirty years in forensic mental health

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