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Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary

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The longest-running independent healthcare podcast, Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary has supplied 17 years of unfiltered truth about American healthcare. A 30-year brain cancer survivor, Matthew built the young adult cancer movement from scratch. Now he channels patient rage into political power, featuring on the air battle-scarred survivors, exhausted caregivers, and the rare insider brave enough to name what"s killing us. It’s real stories from real people who refuse to accept that

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00:32:59

The Cancer Support Community: A 101 with Linda Bohannon

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2021/02/02

Today on the show, I welcome Linda Bohannon, President of The Cancer Support Community, the largest nonprofit provider of social and emotional support for anyone touched by cancer. An oncology nurse by trade, Linda and I go back to a time long before Stupid Cancer. In the mid-2000s, she was running "Advocacy Relations" for Lilly Oncology during the official US launch of Lilly Oncology On Canvas, which was a groundbreaking effort for its time that you will hear more about in our conversation. Now,

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00:32:10

In Memoriam: Remembering Annie Goodman

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2021/01/28

I've got a treat for you today because my buddy Steve Goodman here with live in-studio. He is sitting about nine feet away, chomping at the bit to chat about all the shared things we find aggrieved, inane, downright agitating, and yet possibly hopeful. The man's a mensch, first and foremost. He's also a 30-year veteran TV producer and cybernetically engaged 1980's trivia junkie. For this episode, he is here as the big brother and caregiver to his sister, the late Annie Goodman, my co-host on The

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00:33:19

A Brief History of Young Adult Cancer Psychotherapy

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2021/01/26

On the show today, the legendary Julie Larson, speaker, educator, psychotherapist, and luminary, legacy young adult cancer advocate. As one of the few people who have been consistently working in the same career profession they went to school for, Julie may consider herself a midwestern gal transplant to the big city but, after more than 15 years in the space, she has more than earned her credibility as one of the early progenitors of the young adult cancer movement. Her first “not so shabby” big

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00:33:02

Stupid Endometriosis With Melissa Boudreau, Host of...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2021/01/21

Across the years running Stupid Cancer, I can’t tell you how many times I was approached by other young adult chronic disease patients and communities asking if we’d ever think of franchising the brand. You know – Stupid Lupis. Stupid Fibro. Stupid MS. Stupid Type 1. You get the point. We all need a community of our peers who — as we say — “get it” because they’ve already “got it” — a community where there are no judgments and no stigma. Well, while there may not be a “Stupid Endometriosis,” Melissa

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00:34:46

We're Not Worthy: The One and Only Dr. Julia Rowland

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2021/01/19

Just when I thought I was the only 20-something with cancer adrift in the 1990s with nary a support group or a cancer buddy, along came an intro to my friend and mentor, Dr. Julia Rowland. Widely recognized as an international scholar and foremost leader in the psychosocial aspects of cancer care broadly—and survivorship specifically—it cannot be understated how seminal she has been working on the front lines of early survivorship research since the passage of the National Cancer Act of 1971

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00:32:50

Healthcare Optimism and the Marvelous Mrs. Halle Tecco

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2021/01/14

On the show today, another epic DeLorean throwback to the past episode with Halle Tecco, an origin story convened during the heyday of LIVESTRONG and born of a shared desire to make cancer suck less. Aside from being one of the most ambitious, talented, relentless, and startup junkie-ist(?) actual innovators, I know — and besides the FOMO I have from whatever it still means to have a blue checkmark on Twitter — Halle has consistently been at the forefront of “what’s next” at the intersections of

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00:32:49

Stupid Brain Cancer With Cancer Nerd and Google...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2021/01/12

I’ve never said the words “Cancer Nerd and Google Scholar” in succession before, but that only partially describes the epicness of my guest today, one Liz Salmi — self-proclaimed “Citizen Scientist” and “Professional Medical Nerd.” — and I attest that both of these are appropriate, accurate and deserved. Diagnosed with brain cancer at 29 and forced down a rabbit hole of a whole bunch of other horrible shit, Liz became the accidental advocate we needed when the Interweb was just becoming the

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00:24:48

Cycle of Lives: Grief, Loss, Redemption, Opportunity,...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2021/01/07

“What do you do with the mad that you feel?” — One of the more definitive quotes from the definitive Mr. Rogers. For my guest today, David Richman, the choice he made after losing his sister to cancer was to turn pain into passion, lace-up, and in true Forrest Gump fashion, JUST START RUNNING. 85 miles between Cancun and Tulum in Mexico. 104 miles up the Pacific Coast Highway. 50 Iron Man Triathlons. And then an introspective search for similar and familiar voices to learn and heal from that turned

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00:32:02

"The System" – What Is It Good for? Absolutely...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2021/01/05

On the show today, Alan Balch, CEO at the Patient Advocate Foundation and the National Patient Advocate Foundation. After we reconcile that Alan is one of the few people actually doing what they studied in college, and without triggering his inner political economist, we talk about the fundamental question: Why do patient advocate groups even need to exist in the first place? After all, if they did what they’re supposed to do, there wouldn’t even be a need. But there is. When we say the words “the

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00:32:50

The One With Advocate Luminary Gwen Darien

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2020/12/29

On the show today, a luminary in the annals of cancer advocacy, the one, and only Gwen Darien. While she may be the EVP for Patient Advocacy at the National Patient Advocate Foundation and the Patient Advocate Foundation, her story runs so much deeper; 30 years into the past actually where a young, passionate student of photography and contemporary art had her life interrupted with a cancer diagnosis and found herself on a different path, one born of her condition but not one to define her identity

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00:35:39

A "So-Called" Normal Life: Erin Zammett Ruddy's...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2020/12/22

On the show today, I welcome one of my advocate heroes, Erin Zammett-Ruddy, a young adult cancer survivor I met during the LIVESTRONG days in the early 2000s. She may have barely crossed the 5-year survivor finish line (that’s what we called it back then), but she was — and still is — a force to be reckoned with. She was a “big-time big city” magazine journalist writing for Glamour when a random asymptomatic diagnosis of Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia changed everything. She broke the mold and went

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00:34:25

FemTech, Dad Bods, and the Mental Health of Aging Well

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2020/12/17

On the show today, I welcome two very inspirational guests. Fard Johnmar is a digital health innovator I met in 2005 before “The Internet” was a thing. He was ahead of his time then, and he’s ahead of his time 15 years later. And Denise Pines is truly a force to be reckoned with. Here come lots of well-deserved syllables: President of the Medical Board of California, social justice warrior, award-winning documentary film producer, Founder of WisePause, and the energy behind the FemAging Project,

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00:30:30

Financial Psychology and the Mental Health of Money...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2020/12/15

Today’s show is a little different. My guest, Michelle Begina, is a financial advisor, speaker, author, and — at least in my own opinion — is a money therapist. Certainly, one of the more hybrid experts I’ve had the privilege of speaking with. With a great deal of intentional vulnerability and discomfort on my part, we talk about money. It doesn’t just make the world go ‘round; it’s a topic that unites everyone and — like math — is a universal language where judgment, stigma, guilt, and the forces

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00:27:59

What the Hell Is a Research Evangelist?

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2020/12/10

On the show today, Dave Bjork, self-proclaimed Research Evangelist, young adult lung cancer survivor, and champion of the cause of “direct-to-research” philanthropy. What does that mean Well, here’s what I think it means. It’s almost too easy to donate and support cancer research, but it’s often a giant cauldron into which you throw your money and never know where it winds up. Cue the black and white informercial — “There’s got to be a better way!” How can I know where my research funding goes? Can

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00:31:48

Cancer Guidelines: Excuse Me While I Whip This Out

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2020/12/08

Throughout the history of cancer advocacy, there the advocates who made us and the organizations who made us. And one such organization is the National Comprehensive Cancer Network, which is — for all intents and purposes — the “Good Housekeeping meets Consumer Reports” of all cancer standards of care, best practices, guidelines, and credibility consensus. Joining me on today’s show to speak to all that is my friend Marcie Reeder, Executive Director of the NCCN Foundation, which is their

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00:32:18

Mental Health, Relationship Alchemy and All the Things

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2020/12/03

Today’s a different kind of show. Not quite the “softer side of Sears,” but perhaps a more introspective look beneath the veil of mental health and all the things that piss us off, like cat posters. Seriously? Have we not yet gotten over cat posters? Today I welcome Marie-Elizabeth Mali, self-proclaimed “relationship alchemist,” two words I’ve never heard spoken in succession that we will break that down during the episode. In the cancer world, we talk about isolation as the number one mental health

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00:36:45

Michele Rhee: Thyroid Cancer, a Benign Heart Tumor,...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2020/12/01

On the show today, I welcome Michelle Rhee, young adult cancer survivor of Thyroid Cancer (you know, “the good one” I’M KIDDING) whose ordeal left her having over a dozen major surgeries, including open heart surgery for a related underlying rare disease. Back in the heyday when the young adult cancer movement was taking off, Michele was looking to take an active role in our startup culture. After being introduced, I helped land her an internship at the Children’s Cause for Cancer Advocacy, a

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00:16:38

[BONUS] "Jen Horonjeff is Noncompliant" COVID-19...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2020/11/30

Today's episode of "Jen Horonjeff is Noncompliant" riffs off the news of Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine safety and efficacy data. Jen has a convo with Matthew Zachary that starts off about vaccines and quickly dives off the deep end into a sea of public perception, personal preferences, and medical ethics. Tune in as we wade through how ableism, veganism, and animal memorial services relate to life-saving medicines. It's all proof positive that developing a vaccine is only half the battle and must be

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00:32:10

Is Our Healthcare System Working Exactly as Planned?

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2020/11/24

Today’s show takes us in a different but related direction into the dumpster fire of health insurance pertaining to employer-based care. Joining me is David Contorno, Founder of E Powered Benefits, which itself sounds jargony. Still, I assure you, he’s one of the more controversial and outspoken whistleblowers advocating in the space, and you may be surprised at all of the aha and gestalt moments revealed on the show. Everyone knows that there are benefits when we take a job, but what exactly are

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00:29:04

3-2-1 Contact: The Medidata Show with Glen de Vries

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2020/11/19

On the show today, I welcome Glen DeVries, Co-CEO at Medidata, the most used platform for clinical trials worldwide. Not too shabby, I say. Among many other things, we dig into his new book, "The Patient Equation: The Precision Medicine Revolution in the Age of COVID-19". Glen is unique in the annals of woke brainiacs who live in the hyper multi-syllable world of science, data, and related semantic geekery AND YET he is hyperaware that average Jane's and Joe's like you and I prefer to actually

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