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The Chad & Cheese Podcast

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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong

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53:50

Randstad Screws Monster

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2025/07/25

On this week's episode, Moe comes out hot and spills on "Coldplay-Gate," that viral kiss-cam fiasco where a couple (turns out, cheating execs from Astronomer) bolted like they saw a ghost. It's not just gossip—it's schadenfreude gold, highlighting how the C-suite plays by different rules. Joel highlights ZipRececruiter's most recent marketing strategy: Embracing old school linear TV by sponsoring a new show on Fox. Chad rants about the new $250 "integrity fee" for US tourist visas—because nothing

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6:01

Shredded: Bold Holdings, ZipRecruiter, Perplexity,...

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2025/07/24

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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45:10

Fixing the Candidate Pipeline with Alla Mezhvinsky

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2025/07/22

Live from UNLEASH America, it’s an unfiltered convo with Steve Bartel (CEO, Gem) and Alla Mezhvinsky (VP, Talent & Workplace, Glean)—and it’s not your average kumbaya on hiring trends.🧠 From AI-fueled chaos to tech stack therapy sessions, we’re diving headfirst into: 🤖 Resume spam and deepfake candidates 💸 Scaling dreams on skeleton budgets 🧱 Platform vs. integration: who ya got? 📊 Real data, real decisions—no BS dashboards Steve even spills the story behind how he

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56:00

Job.com: Follow the Money

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2025/07/18

In this episode, Chad and Cheese return from RecFest with sunburns, stories, and just enough energy to unpack a week full of WTFs. They kick things off with a heartfelt tribute to their late friend Matt Lavery, proof that even these two have a soft side under the sarcasm.But don’t get too comfortable, there’s plenty of industry drama to dig into. Job.com filed for bankruptcy (shocking no one), Indeed is back on its layoff tour, and Paradox is dealing with a data breach. Chris Foreman resurfaces at

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6:56

Shredded: Wibo, Job.com, Recruit Holdings,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/07/17

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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30:20

Gettin' Giggy with Guru Dr. Ankit Kalda

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/07/15

In this episode, the boys roll out the red carpet for Ankit Kalda, a finance brainiac from Indiana University’s Kelley School of Business. They dive into the gig economy’s role as a financial lifeboat for laid-off workers, tossing around ideas like Uber drivers dodging debt faster than a bad Tinder date. The crew chews over how gig work reshapes the workforce, with HR folks scrambling to keep up like over-caffeinated squirrels. They also poke at the headaches gig platforms face—think regulatory

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42:37

Will Job.com Go Bust?

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/07/11

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast:💀 Job.com hits Chapter 11 – because apparently lighting $50-100 million on fire isn't a sustainable business strategy. Who knew? 🔁 Who's buying Job.com? Apparently Job.com! 🧠 CTO is owed $300K 🧃 Business model of doom. Imagine Fyre Festival for jobs 🔮 PE firms, VC money, zero logic – If you ever wanted a masterclass in financial acrobatics and corporate vanishing acts, this episode is your front row seat. It’s The Chad & Cheese Podcast – where

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33:58

One-Page Talent Management with Marc Effron

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/07/08

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash roll out the welcome mat for Marc Effron, the big cheese at Talent Strategy Group and coauthor of One Page Talent Management. The trio dives headfirst into the wild jungle of talent management, where CEOs and HR are apparently playing a bad game of telephone. Marc dishes on why HR processes need a simplicity makeover—like swapping War and Peace-length forms for a Post-it note. He spills the tea on why companies

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42:13

Indeed Shareholder Report

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2025/07/04

In this episode, the gang kicks off with Canada Day banter, praising poutine and noting its July 1 celebration. The trio plans to rock RecFest UK in Knebworth, with J.T. plotting to heckle the boys.The core discussion dives into Indeed’s aggressive moves to dominate hiring, forcing agencies to adopt APIs and share disposition data, reminiscent of old newspaper models, per Jim Durbin’s insights. Chad critiques Recruit Holdings’ push for a unified “HR matching market,” warning it’s a dated

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5:22

Shredded: Jobright, Joveo, CareerBuilder, Monster,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/07/03

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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38:03

Indeed Feed Frenzy with Jim Durbin

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/07/01

In this episode, your loyal hosts roll out the red carpet for Jim Durbin, the industry's "Indeed Whisperer," who’s here to spill the beans on Indeed’s latest shenanigans. The trio dives into Indeed’s shiny new job posting policies, the corporate game of telephone gone wrong inside the company, and how this hot mess is shaking up agencies and recruiters like a bad TikTok dance. Jim drops some truth bombs about why quality candidates trump a flood of resumes, the nerdy allure of disposition data,

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54:08

JobGet Buys Monster? Inside the CareerBuilder Fire Sale

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/06/27

In another lively episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and J.T. O’Donnell blend humor with industry insights. The show tackles a grim industry shake-up: CareerBuilder and Monster’s job board business is being sold to JobGet amid Chapter 11 bankruptcy. JobGet’s gobbling distressed assets like Snagajob, but Chad questions the strategy, as these “misfit toys” boost revenue without growth. Unsecured creditors, like Jobverse ($2.7M) and TextKernel ($2.2M), are

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6:08

Shredded: CareerBuilder, Monster, Sixcel,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/06/26

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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43:55

Welcome to Sintra's Jungle

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/06/25

Buckle up for another wild ride on The Chad and Cheese Podcast, where our hosts sling hot takes faster than a fast food drive-thru! This episode’s a global smorgasbord, kicking off with a shout-out to Portugal’s national football team, who’re apparently scoring goals like they’re auditioning for a Hollywood blockbuster. Olé! Then, the lads pivot to Taco Bell’s grand invasion of Ireland—because nothing says “Irish culture” like a Crunchwrap Supreme at 2 a.m.Next, they dive into the recruitment

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40:03

CNET's Katherine Watt: Tackling the Jobless Jungle

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/06/23

On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys lasso CNET money maestro Katherine Watt to dissect the job market’s wild west. Watt spills the beans on why unemployment stats are about as reliable as a weather app in a hurricane, exposing the gritty reality job seekers face. They wrangle topics like the “Great Stay” snoozefest, where workers cling to jobs like life rafts, and the economic data that’s got everyone scratching their heads. Watt drops gold nuggets on crafting resumes that dodge

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55:14

Meta vs. OpenAI: The Poaching Wars

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/06/20

This week, hosts Chad Sowash, Joel Cheesman, and Emi Beredugo sling zingers at the tech and policy chaos of today's work of work. First up, they cackle over OpenAI’s Sam Altman throwing shade at Meta, claiming Zuck’s crew dangled $100 million bonuses to poach his AI wizards. Altman, smirking on his brother’s podcast, scoffed, “Meta’s not exactly an innovation powerhouse,” betting OpenAI’s culture will outshine cash as they chase superintelligence—AI that’ll make humans look like dial-up modems

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7:01

Shredded: Parqa, Job&Talent, CareerBuilder, Monster,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/06/19

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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45:17

Inside Apple’s China: Secrets, Supply Chains, and...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/06/17

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman interview Patrick McGee, a former Financial Times reporter and author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World’s Greatest Company. The discussion delves into McGee’s book, which explores Apple’s transformative relationship with China, its massive investments, and the unintended consequences for global tech and geopolitics. The interview covers McGee’s research process, Apple’s control over its narrative, the

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55:49

CareerBuilder + Monster: End of an Era?

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/06/13

In this lively Chad and Cheese podcast episode, our courageous hosts tackle the recruitment world with wit and sarcasm. They mourn the downfall of job board giants CareerBuilder and Monster, now on the clearance rack, as private equity bean counters strip them bare. Chad laments their lack of vision, while Joel predicts three fates: a ZipRecruiter roll-up, a Recruit Holdings acquisition, or an international player snagging a cheap U.S. foothold. J.T. scoffs, saying job seekers hate these brands

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6:16

Shredded: CareerBuilder, Monster, SeekOut, Indeed,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/06/12

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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