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The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case,

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19:14

20: Murder in Canton - Week One Recap of the Retrial...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/04/29

Join Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in retrial of Karen Read. This is week one and it started with a bang!Subscribe for updates about the second trial and catch Mel on Crime Writers On The Readathon to discuss the new trial. This will be a regular thing throughout the trial so join the conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/collection/595523?view=expanded Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web:

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76:15

19: DEEP DIVE The Investigation and (first) Trial of...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/04/22

Host Mel Barrett goes on a mega deep dive into the investigation and first trial of Karen Read on the eve of her retrial.Subscribe for updates about the second trial and catch Mel on Crime Writers On The Readathon to discuss the new trial. This will be a regular thing throughout the trial so join the conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/collection/595523?view=expanded Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web:

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18: **UPDATE: New EARLY Episode Coming This Monday...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/04/20

An important update. Expect a big episode out on Monday, April 21, 2025 in anticipation of opening statements in the second Karen Read Trial starting on Tuesday, April 22, 2025. Also! Host of The In Between Podcast, Mel Barrett joins Crime Writers On The Readathon to discuss the new trial. This will be a regular thing throughout the trial so join the conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/collection/595523?view=expanded Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB:

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42:45

17: A Mother on Death Row: Darlie Routier's Sister...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/04/17

In a candid and emotional interview, Mel speaks with Darlie Routier's youngest sister, Danelle, about her sister, the night of the crime, and her family's belief that Darlie is wrongfully convicted of murdering her two young boys.

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16: **UPDATE - New Episode out Wednesday 04/16

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/04/16

Just a quick update from host, Mel Barrett. Today's scheduled episode fell victim to the tech Gods, but not to worry, you'll have Mel's interview with Darlie Routier's sister, Danelle tomorrow.

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24:21

15: A Mother on Death Row: The Darlie Routier Story

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/04/08

On a quiet night in June 1996, the affluent suburb of Rowlett, Texas, was rocked by a brutal crime: 6-year-old Devon and 5-year-old Damon Routier were stabbed to death while sleeping in the family’s living room. Their mother, Darlie Routier, claimed an intruder broke in and attacked them all. But when investigators dug deeper, suspicion turned toward the one person who was supposed to protect them: Darlie Host of The In Between Podcast, Mel Barrett gives you a glimpse of the murders that shook

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27:33

14: *BONUS* Sam Nordquist's Family Tells Their Story

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/03/25

In this episode of The In Between Podcast, host Mel Barrett speaks at length with Sam Nordquist's mother and sister about the months leading up to Sam's disappearance and heinous murder and what happens next.

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Missing Tortured Murdered - The Story of Sam Nordquist

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/03/18

Sam Nordquist was a typical twenty-four year-old guy. He loved TikTok, his family and friends, and animals. And like so many of us, Sam found love online. After a short period of dating, Sam traveled from his home state of Minnesota to meet his love, Precious Arzuaga, a thirty-eight year-old single mother, whom he hoped to start a life with.But Sam didn't find love in Canandaigua, New York. He found depravity, violence, and sadism--allegedly--at the hands of the woman who was supposed to love him

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85:55

12: *BONUS* A Conversation with Pamela Smart, Mel...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/03/11

Pamela Smart answers various questions and discusses an appeal and what's next. You can binge all ad-free episodes and bonus content of The In Between over at the Grab Bag Collab Patreon page. Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web: inbetweenpod.com

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37:18

11: *BONUS* It Happened Right Here

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/03/04

Mel talks at length with someone very close to the case and the boys who perpetrated the murder, Raymond's brother, Robert. Robert goes into detail about what happened the night of the murder when the boys came back to his home and what it was like in the months leading up to the trial, including his thoughts on Pam Smart and her sentence. You can binge all ad-free episodes and bonus content of The In Between over at the Grab Bag Collab Patreon page. Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG:

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22:22

10: *BONUS* More Than Manson

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/02/25

Even Manson had the option of parole. Mel speaks further with the Sentencing Project and a Democratic Representative from NH who is introducing a new bill that might offer the opportunity of parole for Pamela Smart. You can binge all ad-free episodes and bonus content of The In Between over at the Grab Bag Collab Patreon page. Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web: inbetweenpod.com

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24:41

9: *BONUS* Pam Smart Responds

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/02/18

Mel got the chance to catch up with Pam, which gave her an opportunity to respond to the podcast so far. You can binge all ad-free episodes and bonus content of The In Between over at the Grab Bag Collab Patreon page. Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web: inbetweenpod.com

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34:43

8: Episode 8: Whisked Away

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/02/11

The media's role in creating the trope of the "manipulative ice princess" and how that categorization found Pam Smart's family desperately searching to find their daughter and sister within the prison system when she went missing during the first two years of her Life Without Parole Sentence.Listen to find out where she was and why her family couldn't find her until it was too late to say goodbye. You can binge all ad-free episodes and bonus content of The In Between over at the Grab Bag Collab

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45:42

7: Episode 7: Trial and Error(s)

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/02/04

For fourteen days in March of 1991, the country and much of the world was riveted by a court case in a tiny New Hampshire town called, Exeter. The Pamela Smart Accomplice to Murder Trial.Perhaps everyone was so enthralled by the spectacle they missed the very real possibility of a miscarriage of justice, but there's the tape and transcripts. Mel takes a deep dive on the trial and errors that occurred. Can't wait for episode eight? You can binge all episodes of The In Between over at the Grab Bag

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58:50

6: Episode 6: The Spirit Of The Stairway

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/01/28

This episode wasn't planned, but Mel felt compelled to share it when she FINALLY tracked down one of the key players in this story, and he spent an hour with her. This is the only episode in the series that is comprised of an interview with a source. Listen to find out why.Can't wait for episode seven? You can binge all episodes of The In Between over at the Grab Bag Collab Patreon page. Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky:

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60:24

5: Episode Five: The Tapes Lie

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/01/21

The wire taps were the only physical evidence against Pamela Smart, so the questions remain: Was Pamela Smart acting when she was recorded by the Derry Police and Cecelia Pierce? She says she was.Were the wiretaps edited or spliced? Forensic audiologists say yes. Who transcribed the tapes? The prosecutor says some "secretary" in the Attorney General's office, not a certified transcriber. Mel dives deep into the tapes in this episode and even manages to get her hands on the famed transcripts

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39:05

4: Episode 4: The Intern

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/01/14

Only one of the five teens involved in planning and carrying out the murder of Gregg Smart on May 1, 1990 was never charged and never served a day behind bars. Cecelia Pierce. In this episode, Mel goes on another deep dive to figure out why. She even comes across some potentially new evidence...if she can figure out where it exists.Can't wait for episode five? You can binge all episodes of The In Between over at the Grab Bag Collab Patreon page. Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG:

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The In Between Podcast is hosting a Live Virtual...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/01/11

Hi friends! It’s Mel Barrett, the host of The In Between Podcast, coming at you with a very big announcement.On Tuesday, January 14th at 5:45 pm EST, Ellyn Marsh from I Think Not and Rabia and Ellyn Solve the Case, and I will be co-hosting a live event on the Grab Bag Collab Patreon for our “Behind the Scenes” and up tiers about my first season of TIBP, Live Free or Die. The first season of the pod, if you haven’t listened yet, is all about the Pamela Smart Accomplice to Murder Trial that happened

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45:16

3: Episode 3: Shoo Fly

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/01/07

Mel takes you on a deep, deep dive into the teens involved in the murder and who they were at the time, and beyond. Was there a reason behind Bill Flynn's emotions on the stand? What did they actually do to Pam's dog? Listener discretion is advised. You've been warned. Can't wait for episode four? You can binge all episodes of The In Between over at the Grab Bag Collab Patreon page. Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web:

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33:57

2: Episode 2: Resting B*tch Face

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2024/12/31

Pam is angry. The men who pulled the trigger and killed her husband are out. They’ve been out for almost a decade while she still sits in prison without any possibility of parole. But Pam has been angry for nearly 34 years. Her anger is part of how we think of her, how we remember her. Can't wait for episode three? You can binge all episodes of The In Between over at the Grab Bag Collab Patreon page. Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky:

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