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62:02

Testing Django Web Applications

Test & Code ·

2023/04/27

Django has some built in ways to test your application. There's also pytest-django and other plugins that help with testing. Carlton Gibson and Will Vincent from the Django Chat Podcast join the show to discuss how to get started testing your Django application.

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32:51

Python project trove classifiers - Do you need this...

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2023/04/05

Classifiers are one bit of Python project metadata that predates PyPI. Classifiers are weird. They were around in setuptools days, and are still here with pyproject.toml. What are they? Why do we need them? Do we need them?Which classifiers should I include?Why are they called "trove classifiers" in the Python docsBrett Cannon joins the show to discuss these wacky bits of metadata.Here's an example, from pytest-crayons:[project] ... classifiers = [ "License :: OSI Approved :: MIT

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36:02

I am not a supplier

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2023/03/31

Should we think of open source components the same way we think of physical parts for manufactured goods? There are problems with supply chain analogy when applied to software. Thomas Depierre discusses some of those issues in this episode. Links:I am not a supplier - article

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57:15

What would you change about pytest?

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2023/03/08

Anthony Sottile and Brian discuss changes that would be cool for pytest, even unrealistic changes. These are changes we'd make to pytest if we didn't ahve to care about backwards compatibilty.Anthony's list:The import systemMulti-process support out of the boxAsync supportChanges to the fixture systemExtend the assert rewriting to make it modularAdd matchers to assert mechanismBan test class inheritanceBrian's list: Extend assert rewriting for custom rewriting, like checkpytester matchers

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6:04

Test & Code Returns

Test & Code ·

2023/03/05

A brief discussion of why Test & Code has been off the air for a bit, and what to expect in upcoming episodes.Links:Python Testing with pytest, 2nd EditionGetting started with pytest Online CourseSoftware Testing with pytest TrainingPython Bytes Podcast

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42:39

The Good Research Code Handbook - Patrick Mineault

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2022/08/30

I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that software is part of most scientific research now. From astronomy, to neuroscience, to chemistry, to climate models. If you work in research that hasn't been affected by software yet, just wait.But how good is that software? How much of common best practices in software development are making it to those writing software in the sciences?Patrick Mineault has written "The Good Research Code Handbook". It's a website. It's concise. And it

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41:53

Learn to code through game development with...

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2022/08/06

The first game I remember coding, or at least copying from a magazine, was in Basic. It was Lunar Lander. Learning to code a game is a way that a lot of people get started and excited about programming. Of course, I don't recommend Basic. Now we've got Python. And one of the game engines available for Python is PursuedPyBear, a project started by Piper Thunstrom. Piper joins us this episode and we talk about PursuedPyBear, learning to code, and learning CS concepts with game

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45:28

Running your own site for fun and absolutely no...

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2022/07/01

Having a personal site is a great playground for learning tons of skills. Brian Wisti discusses the benefits of running a his own blog over the years.Links:Random GeekeryJamstackEleventyNetlifyPlausible AnalyticspytestBeautiful Souppyinvoke - Invoke!rsyncInternet Archive : archive.orgRichStatamicjamstack.orgA static site generator should be your next language learning project

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50:45

Testing PyPy - Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick

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2022/06/21

PyPy is a fast, compliant alternative implementation of Python. cPython is implemented in C. PyPy is implemented in Python. What does that mean? And how do you test something as huge as an alternative implementation of Python?Special Guest: Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick.Links:PyPyHow is PyPy Tested? PyPy SpeedPython Speed Center

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31:50

attrs and dataclasses - Hynek Schlawack

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2022/06/07

In Python, before dataclasses, we had attrs. Before attrs, it wasn't pretty.The story of attrs and dataclasses is actually intertwined. They've built on each other. And in the middle of it all, Hynek.Hynek joins the show today to discuss some history of attrs and dataclasses, and some differences.If you ever need to create a custom class in Python, you should listen to this episode.Full TranscriptSpecial Guest: Hynek Schlawack.Links:attrs documentationHistory of attrs and introduction to

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35:04

Python's Rich, Textual, and Textualize - Innovating...

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2022/05/17

Will McGugan has brought a lot of color to CLIs within Python due to Rich. Then Textual started rethinking full command line applications, including layout with CSS. And now Textualize, a new startup, is bringing CLI apps to the web.Links:richrich-clitextualTextualize.ioRich GalleryTextualize GalleryPython Bytes Podcast

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39:49

Teaching Web Development, including Front End Testing

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2022/05/13

When you are teaching someone web development skills, when is the right time to start teaching code quality and testing practices?Karl Stolley believes it's never too early. Let's hear how he incorporates code quality in his courses.Our discussion includes:starting people off with good dev practices and toolslintinghtml and css validationvisual regression testingusing local dev servers, including httpsincorporating testing with git hookstesting to aid in css optimization and

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51:08

Developer and Team Productivity

Test & Code ·

2022/05/12

Being productive is obviously a good thing. Can we measure it? Should we measure it? There's been failed attempts, like lines of code, etc. in the past. Currently, there are new tools to measure productivity, like using git metrics.Nick Hodges joins the show to discuss the good and the bad of developer and team productivity, including how we can improve productivity.

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20:56

Python + Django + Rich + Testing == Awesome

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2022/05/11

Django has a handful of console commands to help manage and develop sites. django-rich adds color and nice formatting. Super cool. In a recent release, django-rich also adds nice colorized tracebacks to the Django test runner. Links:django-rich · PyPIepisode 181: Boost Your Django DX - Adam Johnsondjango-crispy-formsPython Developers Survey 2020 Results

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40:34

Twisted and Testing Event Driven / Asynchronous...

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2022/03/21

Twisted has been supporting asynchronous / event driven applications way before asyncio. Twisted, and Glyph, have also been encouraging automated tests for a very long time.Twisted uses a technique that should be usable by other applications, even those using asyncio or other event driven architectures.Links:Community Service Award Recipient Glyph Lefkowitz — The PSF article I was referring to early in the episode Twistedtwisted/kleintwisted/treqdjango/daphne — Django Channels

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47:07

Managing Software Teams - Ryan Cheley

Test & Code ·

2022/03/17

Ryan Cheley joins me today to talk about some challenges of managing software teams, and how to handle them. We end up talking about a lot of skills that are excellent for software engineers as well as managers.Some topics discussed:handling code reviewsasking good questionsbeing honest about what you can't do with current resources and datadiscussing tradeoffs and offering solutions that can be completed faster than the ideal solutionbalancing engineering and managingmaking sure

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47:08

An Unorthodox Technical Interview and Hiring Process...

Test & Code ·

2022/03/08

Don't you just love technical interviews, with someone who just saw your resume or CV 5 minutes ago asking you to write some code on a whiteboard. Probably code that has nothing to do with anything you've done before or anything you will do at the company.No? Neither does Nathan Aschbacher. So when he started building the team at his company, he decided to do things differently.Hiring is one of the essential processes for building a great team. However, it's a high noise, low signal

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26:51

Boost Your Django DX - Adam Johnson

Test & Code ·

2022/03/01

We talk with Adam Johnson about his new book, "Boost Your Django DX". Developer experience includes tools and practices to make developers more effective and efficient, and just plain make software development more fun and satisfying. One of the things I love about this book is that it's not just for Django devs. I'd guess that about half the book is about topics that all Python developers would find useful, from virtual environments to linters to testing. But of course, also tons of

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25:21

Lean TDD

Test & Code ·

2022/02/21

Lean TDD is an attempt to reconcile some conflicting aspects of Test Driven Development and Lean Software Development.I've mentioned Lean TDD on the podcast a few times and even tried to do a quick outline at the end of episode 162.This episode is a more complete outline, or at least a first draft.If you feel you've got a good understanding of TDD, and it's working awesome for you, that's great. Keep doing what you're doing. There are no problems.For me, the normal way TDD is taught just

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10:09

Exploratory Testing

Test & Code ·

2022/02/09

Exploratory testing is absolutely an essential part of a testing strategy. This episode discusses what exploratory testing is, its benefits, and how it fits within a framework of relying on automated tests for most of our testing.Full Transcript

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