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There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com

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Ep. 131 Mark Ross and Erika Finley: Does Your Board...

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2025/04/09

Ep. 131 Mark Ross and Erika Finley: Does Your Board Reflect Your Community?Josh finally asks the important question, what would our hosts name their bands! Then he shares his conversation with Mark Ross and Erica Finley when they spoke at APAP 2025. Mark and Erika share how they got started in the arts, the interesting history of Community Concert Associations, volunteerism, and more. Mark Ross and Erika Finley work for Live on Stage (https://www.liveonstage.biz/), Live Arts and Attractions

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Ep. 129 Alex Morgan is Silencio Pantomimo: From the...

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2025/04/01

Ep. 129 Alex Morgan is Silencio Pantomimo: From the County Fair to Paris This week Bryan sits down with professional mime, Alex Morgan. Alex shares how he got into the art form, running away to Paris, and finding his character, Silencio Pantomimo. The interview really takes off when Alex allows Bryan to interview Silencio and we learn how we went from busking in Paris to touring internationally. Alex Morgan is a professional mime, known best for his work as Silencio Pantomimo. Follow us on social

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Ep. 128 Bracket Madness: What Our Industry Can Learn...

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2025/03/26

Ep. 128 Bracket Madness: What Our Industry Can Learn From Sports Marketing. This week the hosts go all in on March Madness sharing their prowess and knowledge of College Basketball, which does not take long so they move onto what our industry can learn from sports, more specifically sports marketing. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi

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38:09

Ep. 127 What’s Happening in D.C.?

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2025/03/19

Ep. 127 What’s Happening in D.C.?This week Kevin, Josh, and Katie discuss Ep. 126 with James Shapiro, and connect it to what is happening with the Kennedy Center and the National Endowment for the Arts in 2025. They dive into some practical and philosophical questions surrounding the politicization of two national arts entities and potential impacts on the live performing arts field. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our

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BONUS: James Shapiro working on Broadway’s Othello

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2025/03/15

BONUS: James Shapiro working on Broadway’s OthelloThis week’s episode had too much for one episode! Enjoy this excerpt that was cut for time where James Shapiro talks about his work on performances, specifically Othello featuring Denzel Washington. James Shapiro (https://www.jamesshapiro.net/) is the author “THE PLAYBOOK: A Story of Theatre, Democracy, and The Making of a Culture War.” Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our

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Ep. 126 “The Playbook” with Author James Shapiro

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2025/03/12

Ep. 126 “The Playbook” with Author James ShapiroThis week Katie is joined by author, professor, and Shakespeare Scholar in Residence at the Public Theatre, James Shapiro. They talk about Shapiro’s new book “THE PLAYBOOK: A Story of Theatre, Democracy, and The Making of a Culture War” which is the story of the start and end of the Federal Theatre Project in the 1930s. Shapiro shares how this reflects our current time. James Shapiro’s (https://www.jamesshapiro.net/) essays and reviews have appeared

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Ep. 125 The State of Development with Lori L. Jacobwith

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2025/03/05

Ep. 125 The State of Development with Lori L. JacobwithThis week, Kevin sits down with fundraising professional Lori L. Jacobwith to talk about the changing development landscape. Lori shares her top 5 things you can do right now and gives insight into the world of philanthropy. If you want to go deeper on the topic with Lori, you can check out her webinar with GrantStation on April 1: https://grantstation.com/product/how-fundraise-during-times-fear-and-uncertainty Lori L. Jacobwith is the Founder

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Ep. 124 Of, By, and For Community – A Discussion...

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2025/02/26

Ep. 124 Of, By, and For Community – A Discussion about Community Engagement This week Katie invites industry leaders Donna Walker-Kuhne, Gary Minyard, and Marisol Sánchez-Best to discuss community engagement – a broad term that touches many facets of our industry. This delightful conversation between colleagues and friends just scratches the surface as they discuss language, metrics, internal communication and collaboration, arts as medicine, and more. Marisol Sánchez-Best is the Director of

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Ep. 123 What’s Next? The Pod Goes Rogue

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2025/02/19

Ep. 123 What’s Next? The Pod Goes RogueThe Pod Squad has been hosting the most amazing podcast (we know we’re biased!) for over two years – and it’s time to shake up the format. Listen for what’s next for There’s No Business Like... and give us your feedback via our audience survey! We’d love to hear your ideas for topics, guests, and more. Fill out the survey here: https://forms.gle/najC47yc8ZfmVHKd9 Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions –

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Ep. 122 What Now? Our Current Moment in the Arts

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2025/02/12

Ep. 122 What Now? Our Current Moment in the ArtsThis week we discuss the current state of the arts in early February 2025 and identify a few of the many challenges ahead for our field, including the strain on arts workers after recovering from the pandemic, as well as how we can stand together moving forward. As some of our podcast friends say, things may have changed by the time you hear this. The litigation tracker mentioned in this episode from the Reiss Center on Law and Security can be found

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Ep. 121 Live from MAX – State of the Industry

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2025/02/05

Ep. 121 Live from MAX – State of the Industry This week we share the final episode recorded at the Midwest Arts Xpo in 2024. Our guests: Lauren Jelencovich, Artist Kris Kaminski, ECE Touring Andy McGuire, George Daily Community Auditorium Lisa Rock, Lisa Rock Entertainment Marc Baylin, Penn Live Arts and Collins Center for the Arts Sara Beatty, Kauffman Center for the Arts Maggie McClure, Artist (The Imaginaries) Jeff Laramie, SRO Artists Christine Cox, C-Squared Entertainment Carson Brimm,

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Ep. 120 Melanie Weir: They Don’t All Become Artists

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2025/01/29

Ep. 120 Melanie Weir: They Don’t All Become ArtistsThis week our hosts talk about obscure reports they gave in school, most of which involved dressing up as historical figures. Katie shares her conversation with Melanie Weir from the Western Arts Alliance Conference. Melanie shares the incredible work happening at the Luther Burbank Center for the Arts, how she got started in the arts, the impact of arts programming on youth, and so much more. Melanie Wier is the Associate Director of Education and

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Ep. 119 APAP Recap 2025

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2025/01/22

Ep. 119 APAP Recap 2025This week Katie hosts a conversation with the PodSquad on their time in NYC at APAP 2025. We talk Broadway, showcases, and conference hot topics! Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

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Ep. 118 Chad Lindsey: Togetherness is Our Strength

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2025/01/16

Ep. 118 Chad Lindsey: Togetherness is Our Strength On this episode, we learn what song our hosts would choose as their walkout music, and Katie sits down with fellow Michigander Chad Lindsey. As a new arts Executive Director, Chad shares insights into his first year and how he has connected with his community. Chad also puts to rest the idea that you can’t get a lot done in year one. Chad Lindsey is the Executive Director of City Opera House (https://www.cityoperahouse.org/) in Traverse City,

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Ep. 117 Censorship with Gail Boyd and Jade Solomon...

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2025/01/08

Ep. 117 Censorship with Gail Boyd and Jade Solomon CurtisThis week Kevin shares his conversation with Gail Boyd and Jade Solomon Curtis following a townhall event on censorship at the Western Arts Alliance in August, 2024. Censorship is a complex topic, and this conversation only scratches the surface. Gail Boyd is President of Gail Boyd Artist Management (https://gailboyd.com/). Jade Solomon Curtis (https://www.jadesolomon.com/) is a dance artist and choreographer represented by Siegel Artist

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Ep. 116 NBL Rewind Josh Benson: Making Time

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2025/01/01

Ep. 116 NBL Rewind Josh Benson: Making TimeWe’ve rewound alllll the way back to Josh’s interview from July 19, 2023 in our final episode of our holiday Rewind series. Danielle visits Josh and catches up on his latest developments, including painting some amazing murals in Marion and cutting back on his 27 gigs…by 1. Join Danielle and Kevin as they sit down with fellow host, Josh Benson. Josh answers the hard-hitting questions like which one of the seven dwarves he identifies most with and what

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Ep. 115 NBL Rewind: Katie Trzaska-Miller: Creating...

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2024/12/26

Ep. 115 NBL Rewind: Katie Trzaska-Miller: Creating Connections This week we rewind back to September 2023 and our chat with Pod Host Katie Trzaska-Miller! Danielle checks in with Katie and they catch up on her new business, aptly named Michigan Maven Creative Associates, taking our own advice, and the joy of getting back on stage. Danielle and Kevin continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, and this week we learn about our fellow host, Katie Trzaska-Miller. After a quick

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Ep. 114 Holidays Holidays and Ask Us Anything

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2024/12/18

Ep. 114 Holidays Holidays and Ask Us AnythingThis week the Podsquad gets together at Danielle’s house for another holiday party! The shenanigans are top notch as we take listener questions and talk about our favorite holiday traditions. We wish you a safe and happy holiday season and thank you for continuing to join us week after week! Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

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Ep. 113 NBL Rewind: Danielle Van Hook: Comforting,...

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2024/12/11

Ep. 113 NBL Rewind: Danielle Van Hook: Comforting, Yet ChallengingIn this week’s rewind Katie lady-chats with Danielle and learns what she’s been up to lately, including facilitating a world premiere at the Alden and engaging the art of making memories on family vacations. In this episode we continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, this week Bryan and Katie sit down with Danielle, and finally put her in the hot seat! We learn about the journey that led her to arts

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Ep. 112 NBL Rewind: Bryan Zellmer: Don’t Be Afraid to...

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2024/12/04

Ep. 112 NBL Rewind: Bryan Zellmer: Don’t Be Afraid to Show Your SillinessThe rewinds continue as we get some big updates and news from Bryan! In this episode we continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, and this week Katie and Josh sit down with Bryan. Bryan shares his journey from marketing director to arts admin, how his programming style has shifted as our ecosystem changes, the pitfalls of “quality” art, and his passion for collaboration in every aspect of his life. He

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