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Two Sides of the Spectrum

A place where we explore research, amplify autistic voices, and change the way we think about autism in life and in professional therapy practice. Visit learnplaythrive.com/podcast/

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01:03:47

Strengths Based Diagnostics & "The Legend of...

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2023/10/04

In this episode, Autistic psychology practitioner Matt Lowry helps us dive into what a strengths-based diagnostics process looks like for autism, and the incredible difference this can make. We also explore what parents and other professionals should look for to find a neurodiversity-affirming evaluator when making a referral. And Matt reads us a story that he wrote called The Legend of Autistica, which is his poignant, hilarious, and insightful origin story of the Autistic people. This episode is

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00:59:08

Sensory Processing, Autistic Catatonia, Safety, &...

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2023/09/20

In today’s episode, Autistic OT Kim Clairy talks about sensory differences, Autistic catatonia, and interdependence in a way that should be part of our life and graduate school curricula. She weaves in her clinical expertise with her personal story and her poetry, and even brings in a surprise guest at the end. Warning: the ending is so sweet it may leave you in tears. View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

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01:04:48

How Therapists Can Move from Allies to Accomplices...

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2023/09/06

Pull up a chair for this conversation! We are going to talk about how intersectionality is like Rubik’s cube, what Plato’s Allegory of the Cave has to do with our therapy work, the Barbie movie, and so much more. This podcast episode was gentle, profound, and transformative. Our guest, ChrisTiana ObeySumner, reminds us that our biases do come out in our work. And, gently, she encourages us to examine them. The 2024 Learn Play Thrive Continuing Education Summit has early bird tickets on sale now

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00:45:43

Let's Talk About Autistic Sex with Sarah Selvaggi...

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2023/08/16

In this episode we explore the role of therapists in promoting positive sexual identity and reducing the risk of sexual assault for our clients. Our guest, Sarah Selvaggi Hernandez is an autistic occupational therapist and educator working to promote an intentional identity-first approach to autism and OT. Promoting bodily autonomy starts with what we teach our youngest clients and how we treat them in our sessions. This is a must-listen episode for all therapists no matter their setting. This is a

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00:44:10

Autistic Love, Sex, & Dating with Jen Harr

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2023/08/02

If you work with kids, here’s the thing: Autistic kids become Autistic adolescents, who may become interested in sex and dating. And if we don’t take the time to learn about what this means for them, as Autistic people, we are likely to miss the mark in how we support them. And if we don’t support them, it’s likely that no one will.The good news is that Autistic social worker Jen Harr is here to talk us through exactly what we should know about Autistic love, dating and romance.And hey social

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00:55:11

How to Align Our Work with Our Deepest Values with...

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2023/07/19

In this episode, Autistic researcher Dr. Mel Heyworth guides us in completely rethinking the pathologized model of autism. We talk about how we can tell kids they are Autistic, how we can support their passions, and so much more. Dr. Mel Heyworth is the founder of the Australian organization Reframing Autism. View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

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01:04:30

A Therapist's Guide to Supporting Authentic, Autistic...

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2023/07/05

We know by now that Autistic adults are the real experts on how Autistic people experience the world. In this episode, Autistic SLPs Rachel Dorsey and V Tisi take us deeper than we’ve ever gone into how we can understand and support authentic, Autistic social communication in any context. If you listen to this episode and want to keep learning, check out their newly released CE course Let’s UNMASC: Understanding the Needs and Motivations of Autistic Social communication at

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00:40:58

Organizing for a Better Future with Finn Gardiner

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2023/06/21

What can those of us working in behaviorally oriented spaces do to try and protect the well-being of our Autistic clients? What impact does shame have on the wellbeing of Autistic kids? What's it like to be a Black Autistic organizer in mostly white spaces? Why should we shift from a charity model to a direct aid model in supporting marginalized groups? In this episode, we dive into all of these issues with Finn Gardner, the Director of Policy and Advocacy at the Autistic People of Color Fund. He is

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00:51:59

Gender-Affirming Voice Care for Autistic Clients with...

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2023/06/07

In this episode we talk about the experience of trans and gender non-conforming Autistic people and their voices. Our guest, SLP Ruchi Kapila, has a really unique practice where they support their clients to use their voices in ways that feel authentic to them and their gender identity. But this episode isn't just for SLP’s: the lessons about gender-affirming care are relevant to all of us supporting Autistic people. View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

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00:46:13

Who has a seat at the table? Thinking beyond...

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2023/05/17

In this episode, Reyma McCoy Hyten helps us explore the root causes of oppression for Autistic people, and sit with the discomfort of examining our role in it. Reyma McCoy Hyten is Autistic and was the first Black woman to ever serve as the US Department of Health and Human Services Commissioner for the Administration on Disabilities. After two decades as a helping professional, Reyma now focuses her work on "how systems create marginalization in the first place.” View show notes and transcript at

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00:52:04

Unmasking Autism in Action with Dr. Devon Price

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2023/05/03

In this episode, our guest, Dr. Devon Price, helps us explore the concepts of masking and authenticity and how we, as professionals supporting Autistic people, can push back against these pressures. We also explore some of the more foundational questions around being Autistic and neurodiversity. Dr. Devon Price is a social psychologist, professor, author, and proudly Autistic person. He has written 'Unmasking Autism' and 'Laziness Doesn't Exist'. View show notes and transcript at

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00:33:27

Changing the World with Books, Narwhals, and Letting...

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2023/04/19

This conversation starts with books, then goes into more books, takes a turn into self-advocacy, and then finishes with a powerful message for therapists working with Autistic kids. And if you're wondering, we'll get to the narwhals too. Our guest, Lei Wiley-Mydske, is an Autistic and otherwise neurodivergent and disabled writer, artist, advocate, activist, and parent. Lei runs so many cool projects – including a neurodiversity library inside of a tattoo shop – that we discuss in this episode. View

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00:47:36

Safety as the Foundation for Everything with Dr....

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2023/04/05

Often as OTs and SLPs we skip right to teaching our Autistic clients new skills. But what about their feelings of felt safety while they are with us? What work do we need to do so that we can show up calm and connected and ready to support our Autistic kids to feel truly safe enough to learn? Psychologist and school psychologist Dr. Gillian Boudreau talks us through this essential and often over-looked first -step to supporting our Autistic clients. View show notes and transcript at

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00:48:12

Helping Autistic PDAers feel Safe with Casey Ehrlich

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2023/03/15

Autistic PDAers need different kinds of supports to feel safe. And before we can provide those, we have to get curious and learn about their needs. Casey Ehrlich from At Peace Parents helps us learn how to foster true safety for our PDA clients. Content warning: this episode includes a detailed description of Autistic burnout for a young child. View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

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00:39:16

Research that Centers Autistic Well-Being as Defined...

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2023/03/01

Far too often research centers outcomes that actually harm Autistic people. Today’s guest, Dr. T.C. Waisman, helps us move toward research that centers Autistic well-being as defined by Autistics. View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

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00:40:48

Gestalt Language Processing Q&A with Alex Zachos

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2023/02/15

In this episode, we field listener questions to Alex Zachos of Meaningful Speech to learn how we can more authentically and effectively support kids who learn language through delayed echolalia. This episode is a follow-up to Episode 40 on supporting Gestalt Language Processors. View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

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00:55:24

The Children Who Deserve a Better World with Meghan...

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2023/02/01

Today’s guests, Meghan Ashburn from Not an Autism Mom, and Jules Edwards from Autistic, Typing, will be our guides in examining how we as professionals can create the world Autistic kids and their families deserve. Together we’ll dig through everything that is happening now for families of Autistic kids including going through the diagnostic process, finding a community of families for support, and looking for the right professionals to support Autistic kids in an affirming way. Check out Meghan &

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00:45:55

A Social Curriculum that Centers Authenticity with...

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2023/01/18

This episode is about how we as therapists build something different to support our autistic clients' social and emotional development, with our ethics and values guiding us and our autistic students as our co-creators. Our guests are SLP Carolyn Long of Social Optics and her student-turned-colleague, Nick. View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

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00:51:00

Sensory Processing in Everyday Life with Dr. Winnie Dunn

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2022/12/21

Dr. Winnie Dunn totally changed how we think about sensory processing for Autistic people. In this episode, we explore a person-centered, strengths-based way to consider our Autistic clients’ sensory needs in their daily lives. We also get Dr. Dunn’s advice on how to use her tool – The Sensory Profile II – in a way that will make your work easier and more impactful. This is a re-release of episode 16 of the podcast. View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

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00:49:37

How to Reduce Adult Demands to Increase Autistic Joy ...

Two Sides of the Spectrum ·

2022/12/07

There’s a tool that is missing from most of our therapy bags: it’s lowering the demands for our Autistic clients. This tool is irreplaceable for helping Autistic people recover from the burnout cycle, and even for preventing burnout all together. Amanda Diekman (“Low Demand Amanda”) helps us figure out how to do just that. View show notes and transcript at learnplaythrive.com/podcast

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