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Conversations

Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption. Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC"s most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving

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Encore: The spiked chair which began conductor...

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2026/02/26

The chief conductor of the Queensland Symphony Orchestra on the chair of spikes which accompanied his early musical career, and why he doesn't tone down his Italian self for work (R)During his Suzuki lessons in Turin, Italy, a young Umberto Clerici was sitting up straight on a chair full of spikes, lest his posture slip.Umberto chose the cello as his instrument, mainly because it wasn’t the violin, which sounded like a cat in a washing machine when played by the older students in

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How I went from being a new mum on food stamps to an...

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2026/02/25

The act of care and service through food has been incredibly important to Besha Rodell throughout her life, from her first, euphoric experience of a fancy restaurant at age eight, to the aftermath of September 11.Today Besha is the chief restaurant critic at The Age.The thrill of a fancy restaurant first imprinted itself on her psyche when she was a girl, treated to dinner at Stephanie's iconic spot in Melbourne.As a teenager, Besha was transplanted to her mother's native USA and

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From child preacher to wicked defector — leaving the...

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2026/02/24

Naomi Mourra grew up as a door-knocking Jehovah's Witness but at 21, she realised Doomsday was not upon her, and left the religion for good.As a child, Naomi thought she was going to live forever.She was told the end of the world was coming, but she would survive the apocalypse and live in paradise for eternity, because she was special.She spent her youth in Western Sydney, preaching these same beliefs to neighbours, strangers, and classmates because Naomi was raised as a

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0:46:31

A boy called Little Chilli — how flavour and...

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2026/02/23

Tony Tan’s parents pinned their hopes on him when they sent him from home in Malaysia to Melbourne to become a white collar professional in the 1970s. There he found “funny smelling cigarettes”, a lovely man called Terry and a destiny he couldn’t escape.Tony was exposed to deep, rich flavour and the precision of cooking from a young age.His mother was a chef in Malaysian colonial kitchens and Tony would often accompany her to work, where he would sometimes receive a single golden,

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0:52:00

A short history of the innovations that have shaped...

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2026/02/20

We rarely stop to wonder who invented the wheel, the alphabet or the printing press but so much of what feels fundamental to daily life was once a bold, untested idea, and someone had to think it up first.In The Shortest History of Innovation, Andrew Leigh traces that long thread of human ingenuity from ancient breakthroughs through to the inventions reshaping our world today like the car, social media and artificial intelligence. He also debunks some of the myths about how these

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Encore: the Nyamal woman from the Pilbara...

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2026/02/19

Psychologist Dr Tracey Westerman on her groundbreaking work transforming mental health outcomes for Aboriginal communities (R)Dr Tracy Westerman grew up in the Pilbara, where suicide and mental health issues have deeply scarred Indigenous communities. So this Nyamal woman decided to do something about it.Nyamal woman Tracy Westerman grew up in some of the most remote parts of Western Australia, moving from a station to a town called Useless Loop, eventually landing in the mining

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0:53:48

Gillian Welch, David Rawlings, an indestructible...

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2026/02/18

The iconic folk duo met at an audition for the only country music band at a prestigious jazz school in Boston. They immediately clicked, and joined the rich lineage of Americana artists that stretches back centuries.In their 20s, Gillian Welch and David Rawlings discovered they had something special when they sang together, a sort of eerie emotional resonance that is usually confined to the blood harmonies produced when siblings sing together.Ever since they've been making music

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Encore: the life and legacy of author John Marsden

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2026/02/17

Growing up, John Marsden found school incredibly difficult and, as a teenager, spent time in hospital after a breakdown. This difficult early life profoundly shaped his work as a writer and educator of young people.With the help of a therapist, he began to recover, but it took him many years to find his place in the world.Eventually he studied teaching, then in his mid-thirties John began to write.John wrote over 40 best-selling novels for young adults and used his profits to buy

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0:49:31

There is magic to be found when the world goes dark

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2026/02/16

Dan Richards investigates the multifaceted realm of night-time. Hear about when he survived a brush with death, a treacherous journey on a Scottish ferry, shadowing a search and rescue team, and the comfort and exquisite agony of new parenthood.The writer and broadcaster argues that night-time is universal in that everyone goes through it, but there are so many different experiences of the dark.He has met the many people who work, helping others and doing the invisible organising

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Losing three mothers in one lifetime—Layne Beachley's...

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2026/02/13

The legendary surfer has grieved the deaths of her adoptive mother, stepmother and birth mother. Only later in life did she realise her drive to win came from a place of loss, and Layne needed to look inward to find her place off the podium.Layne is a legendary surfer who is the first person ever to win six consecutive world titles.Since her childhood spent on Sydney's Northern Beaches, Layne has loved being in the water but it wasn't until later in life that she realised her

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0:48:00

Encore: A 'hopeless romantic' on divorce, dating...

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2026/02/12

After a painful divorce, Charlotte Ree began to piece her broken heart back together by cooking for her neighbours (R)Charlotte Ree grew up in a family full of love, but with its own particular challenges. Her mum struggled with mental illness, which meant Charlotte grew up very quickly.Charlotte met the man who would become her husband when she was 19. Within a few years, they married, but money became a major source of pain in the relationship.One night on a boat, Charlotte

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0:52:18

You're not alone or broken—the pursuit of happiness...

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2026/02/11

Philosopher and writer Eamon Evans on humanity's relentless and impossible pursuit of happiness through materialism, social media and self help, and why the kindest and best people have been 'crushed by life' a couple of times.Eamon started to think more deeply about happiness and contentment in his 20s, after a bout of serious depression.He realised that trying to be happy all the time was paradoxically making him miserable, and says that's true for most of us in this modern

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Encore: Judy Brewer on country love, deb balls and...

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2026/02/10

Judy grew up on a farm in north-east Victoria.When she was seventeen, a family tragedy saw her thrust into life as a farmer for the first time.Being a young farmer led her into local politics, and eventually into a burgeoning friendship with a lanky, much-loved local politician named Tim Fischer.On their first date, Tim took Judy to the Tocumwal Debutant Ball, and it was a disaster.But despite the age difference, the two of them eventually fell in love and started a family.When

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0:51:30

A man, his gum trees, and his 'second education'

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2026/02/09

The world's leading eucalyptus expert, Professor Steve Hopper, on what science and culture say about these spectacular trees, and how Noongar elders in WA's South West led his 'second education' in botany.Australia is one of the richest places on earth when it comes to botanical biodiversity.Tens of thousands of species of trees and flowers have developed over millions of years of isolation.But perhaps the most iconic of all native flora is the humble eucalyptus.From Queensland's

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Zadie Smith on 'being on the side of life' at 50

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2026/02/06

UK writer Zadie Smith became a world-wide sensation with the publication of her first novel White Teeth when she was 24. Now aged 50, she's bringing her trademark intelligence and wit to the subject of midlife.Her latest work is Dead and Alive, a new book of essays, where she writes about black British history, paintings, politics, our online lives and getting older.She also talks about up growing in North West London and where she's returned to live with her own family.Zadie will

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Encore: Jessica's life as a GODA - the grandchild of...

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2026/02/05

Jessica Kirkness with the story of her grandparents, who both grew up profoundly deaf in a hearing world, and how she navigated the space in between sound and silence. (R)Jessica grew up in the outer suburbs with a big extended family, with her grandparents living right next door.Her grandparents, Melvyn and Phyllis, were affectionate, kind and wise and Jessica often spent more time after school in their house than her own.But their house was distinctly different.The doorbell never

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'Come to orgy, wife wrote to friend': discovering the...

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2026/02/04

Saul Eslake grew up knowing he was adopted. For many years he knew nothing about his biological parents, but when he adopted his own children, he began the search for his birth family.What he discovered in his adoption file revealed a very complicated story, and It took him more than two decades to unravel the mystery.En route, he discovered a confected newspaper scandal, a story of British pilots at an orgy, and a complicated divorce.Then years on, he experienced the joy of

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Encore: My shark attack, and the aftermath

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2026/02/03

Dave Pearson runs Bite Club, a support service for anyone who has survived a shark attack. Dave’s own brush with death came in 2011, when a three-metre-long bull shark almost took his arm. (R)Dave lived that day, but it’s what happened during his recovery that he didn’t see coming.Dave Pearson was with his mates on the NSW Mid North Coast back in 2011, and couldn’t get in the water fast enough to try out his brand new surfboard.He’d caught a few waves when he was slammed by what

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0:52:27

Loving and losing my adventurer husband across the...

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2026/02/02

In 2007, Vicki’s husband Andrew set off from Tasmania in a kayak, aiming to become the first person to paddle to New Zealand, but a month later authorities received a distress call and then his kayak was found with no sign of Andrew.Vicki and their little son Finn, were waiting with friends and family for Andrew at Milford Sound when the devastating news came through.This episode of Conversations was produced by Jen Leake, the Executive Producer is Nicola Harrison.It explores love,

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A car bomb exploded outside my work — decades later...

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2026/01/30

Debra Richardson joined the police force at just 18 in the 1980s and in her early years she worked undercover as a prostitute and survived the Russell Street bombing.Then Deb and her family agreed to care for one of the many children brought to Australia for short-term stays following the Chernobyl disaster in Ukraine.Decades later, a journey to help that foster son, now living in a war zone, ended up helping Deb in ways she never expected.This episode of Conversations was produced

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