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Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

Author Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave in

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44:06

Introducing: THREE

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/12/06

After midnight on July 6th, 2012, three teenage girls walked into the thick Appalachian woods somewhere along the Mason-Dixon line. Hours later, under the glow of a nearly full moon, only two walked out.The very last time Dave and Mary Neese saw their only child Skylar was in a grainy black-and-white video. In it, she's sneaking out of her ground-floor bedroom in the middle of the night, her purse over her shoulder, her brown hair swinging as she hurries across the small parking lot to a waiting

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56:16

Jesika Jones Part 2 with Derek Jones

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/12/05

In the second episode of Andrea’s coverage of the Jesika Jones case, she’s joined by Derek Jones, Jesika’s then-husband. Derek bravely tells the story of how he and Jesika met, their home life, and the decline in their daughter's health. Talking to Derek gives listeners insight into the manipulative nature of perpetrators, not only with their victims, but also with everyone around them, and the mental toll of coming to terms with such a monumental breach of trust. Stay tuned for part 2 of their

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2:52

You Probably Think This Story's About You | Season 2...

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/12/03

Brittani Ard returns to the tangled web of memories, wounds, and connections that shape our lives. After sharing her own story in the first 8 chapters, she’s pulling on the delicate threads that tie our histories to who we are today. Brittani knows that even though our pasts shape who we are, we hold the power to make sure it doesn’t define who we want to be. It’s not just her story anymore—it’s about the people she’s met, their experiences intertwined with hers, and the universal truths hidden in

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68:10

Jesika Jones Part 1 with Detective Mike Weber

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/11/27

This week on case files, Andrea is joined by Detective Mike Weber, a crimes against children investigator and long-time friend/contributor to the show, to discuss the Jesika Jones case. Detective Mike is called onto this case in mid-2022 after Jesika brings her 4 year old daughter into Cook Children’s Hospital multiple times for an alleged seizure disorder. As the case evolves, Mike learns just how compulsive an offender who is allowed to walk can truly be. *** Links/Resources: Preorder Andrea

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40:44

Introducing: You Probably Think This Story's About You

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/11/25

Chapter 1: It Started as a Love Story When Brittani Ard matches with Kanon* on Hinge sparks fly. Their first date revealed an instant connection and chemistry. Kanon is devastatingly handsome with a charm that disarmed even the most guarded heart — plus he is surprisingly emotionally available for a man in his forties. It’s as if the universe has conspired to bring them together, two soulmates destined to find each other. The couple spends the next five months diving fast into a whirlwind

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47:54

Revisiting Season 3: Shelter

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/11/21

While the Nobody Should Believe Me team is hard at work on season 5, we’re revisiting the first episode of our third season, which covered the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's trial, also known as the Take Care of Maya Case. Next week, we have a brand new miniseries coming to your ears, so stay tuned. *** As the Maya Kowalski case heads to trial, we dig into the massive trove of documents about this case and begin to unpack what we know about what really happened during Maya Kowalski’s

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102:23

Exploring the Disturbing World of Mitoaction.org

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/11/14

In this episode, Andrea and Dr. Bex discuss mitochondrial disorders, which Dr. Bex has seen first-hand in her pediatric patients, and their connection to medical child abuse, most notably in the Justina Pelletier case. Like most illnesses seen in Munchausen by Proxy cases, while there are tests that doctors run, mitochondrial disorders present challenges in distinguishing genuine cases because of the array of symptoms they present. They discuss how support groups and websites–while so important for

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63:43

Introducing Was I in a Cult?

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/10/18

Was I In A Cult? is not your typical cult podcast. Hosted by writer/comedian Liz Lacuzzi and documentary filmmaker Tyler Measom, the duo bring you first-hand stories from real cult survivors— each episode infuses humor, heart, and hope into tales that can otherwise be dark. And the guests have not only survived, but transformed their darkest moments into stories of strength. As cult survivors themselves, Liz and Tyler aim to humanize the cult experience. Give it a listen… it may just leave you

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54:44

Justina Pelletier Part 1

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/10/17

Case Files is back with the first episode of a multi-part series on the Justina Pelletier case. Andrea and Dr. Bex covered this case in the subscriber feed, but, due to popular demand, decided to bring it to the main podcast. Justina Pelletier was a 14-year-old girl whose hospitalization at Boston Children's Hospital sparked a significant legal and media frenzy. Andrea and Dr. Bex’s discussion covers the medical background of Justina's condition, including mitochondrial disease and somatoform

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85:02

Kowalski, Ketamine, and Matthew Perry

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/10/10

Welcome to the first episode of Case Files, our new series for episodes between seasons! Andrea, either solo or joined by guests, will be taking listeners through additional Munchausen by Proxy cases, updates on previously covered cases, and the broader societal impact of this form of child abuse.In this conversation, Andrea and Dr. Bex (our secret Florida doctor friend from season 3) delve into the growing popularity of ketamine usage and the public perception of the role that it played in the

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9:13

Introducing One of Us

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/10/04

Our world is a hot mess, so Fin Argus and Chris Renfro are setting out in a rocket ship to explore queerer pastures. Hop in as they explore the great unknown with a new guest, in a new universe, every week—and build an intergalactic Best Friend Force along the way. Wherever you go, there's One of Us.Listen wherever you get your podcasts: Apple | Spotify Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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64:09

Answering Your Season 4 Questions with Producer Myrriah

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2024/10/03

Welcome to our Season 4 Mailbag Episode! We’re so excited to officially introduce our fabulous producer Myrriah Gossett, who works tirelessly behind the scenes to keep the many moving parts of Nobody Should Believe Me on track. Andrea and Myrriah reflect on their experiences reporting for season 4, ethically navigating survivor stories, and the considerations involved in sharing the intimate details of someone’s real life. They also address questions about the show’s coverage of dissociative

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41:10

Introducing Where’s Dia?

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/09/27

In the beautiful mountain town of Idyllwild, a wealthy widow named Dia Abrams suddenly vanishes from her home. She leaves behind her idyllic ranch, estranged children and a messy legal battle. Two men in her life, her son and a man who claims to be her fiance, launch public campaigns to find her. But soon, their efforts – and stories – begin to unravel. *** Listen to Where's Dia: https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/wheres-dia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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55:15

BONUS: Unabridged Interview with Carly Ostler

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/09/26

On this week’s unabridged interview from season 4, Andrea chats with trauma therapist Carly Ostler. The two of them dive into what complex trauma is, the difference between PTSD and complex PTSD, and the co-dependent nature of abusive families. Carly explains why abuse from parental figures affects survivors so deeply, as well as the complexity of grieving an abuser. * * * Links/Resources: Learn more about Carly: https://www.carlyostler.com/ Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door:

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53:55

BONUS: Unabridged Interview with Jackie Rodriguez

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/09/12

We are working hard on season 5 of Nobody Should Believe Me, but in the meantime, we’re bringing you a series of unabridged interviews from the experts we talked to during the making of season 4!This week Andrea chats with Jackie Rodriguez, LMSW, who specializes in dissociative identity disorder and complex trauma. Jackie and Andrea discuss the complexities of DID and the stereotypes that have been exacerbated by popular media. Jackie talks through what therapy looks like for someone with DID and

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BONUS: Unabridged Interview with Bea Yorker

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/09/05

Law professor, nurse, and president of Munchausen Support, Bea Yorker, shares what first got her interested in working with Munchausen by proxy cases, and remembers the first time she was exposed to medical child abuse. She recounts how she first met Jo in the Munchausen by proxy Committee of the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children. Bea and Andrea talk through the positive psychological effects of peer support groups for those coping with trauma and how to create a safe space for

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26:37

Introducing: DEVIANT

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/08/29

In the summer of 2009, a horrible smell was spreading across Imperial Avenue, in the Mt. Pleasant neighborhood of Cleveland, OH. The people who lived there thought it was coming from the local sausage factory. They were wrong. That autumn, police walked into the house next door, the one belonging to Anthony Sowell. What they find inside is a nightmare...a serial killer operating right in front of them.*** Listen to DEVIANT: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deviant/id1749207304 Join their

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42:58

No One is Coming to Save Us

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/08/22

In our season four finale, we talk about what justice looks like for survivors of abuse and how to recover from the loss of an abusive parent. We examine the importance of confronting the reality of what happened as a crucial first step in a survivor’s healing and ask what feels like an impossible question–when the systems fail, as they so often do–what do you do about someone like Jo’s mom Donna? *** Links/Resources: Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and

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42:55

The Body is a Battlefield

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/08/01

Jo starts to make big strides within their personal life. From building community and finding friends, to finally being able to take care of themselves in a way that feels safe. They’ve even rediscovered their love for cheerleading. But just as they’re starting to forge a new relationship with their body, an injury causes a major setback. We talk to two of Jo’s closest people–their therapist Angie and their roommate Spencer–about watching Jo struggle through this difficult time, and gain insights

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58:29

Revelations

Nobody Should Believe Me ·

2024/07/18

Today we look back at Jo’s revelation in their twenties that they’d been a victim of Munchausen by proxy abuse: a moment that turned their world upside down. As Jo forges a path forward – reviewing their medical records and even confronting their childhood pediatrician – they discover how complex healing from this abuse truly is.Jo also opens up about their experiences with Dissociative Identity Disorder. We speak to Jo’s therapist, Angie, about their complicated system of coping mechanisms. We

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