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Cloud 9fin

Leveraged finance, distressed debt, and private credit drive today’s markets. Cloud 9fin delivers expert insights on high-yield bonds, syndicated loans, direct lending, and debt restructuring. Join top analysts and investors as we explore credit markets, special situations, and private debt strategies shaping the industry. From credit risk assessment to institutional credit trends, each episode provides actionable intelligence for fund managers, institutional investors, and financial professionals

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39:19

AI fireside with Steven Hunter and Sujeet Indap

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/03/20

AI is eating the world, or so the headlines say. But what does this really mean for debt markets? Where does AI truly excel, and what limitations persist? What implications does this technological shift hold for analysts' jobs? And how is 9fin deploying AI to address specific challenges confronting debt market professionals?Sujeet Indap, Wall Street editor at the Financial Times, sat down with Steven Hunter, CEO and co-founder of 9fin, to cut through the hype and dissect the real impact of

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28:23

Mastering middle office data and decisions

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/03/13

No one likes that feeling of being a little too thick in the middle. But finding the right balance of strength and cushion is no easy task. We’re talking about the middle office here, of course.The middle office may not always be in the spotlight, but when loan data goes awry it’s the team that keeps the gears turning and numbers in check. In this episode, head of podcasts Chase Collum chats with Jared Vest, global co-head of middle office solutions at FIS, to break down the middle office's

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21:20

Bringing loan data from fax to the future

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/03/06

In the credit markets, it’s important practitioners get their fax straight. No, you didn’t read that wrong — even in 2025, people still use fax machines to transmit some loans data.In our latest Cloud 9fin episode, Chase Collum, head of podcasts, and private credit analyst Devin McGinley, sit down with John Smullen, product manager at FIS. They chat about how global data trends are shaping strategies in the leveraged finance world as private credit CLOs and direct lending gain ground.This

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28:05

Scott Greenberg wants your cooperation

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/03/05

In this episode of Jane’s LME Addiction, our head of LME coverage Jane Komsky brings in global chair of Gibson Dunn’s restructuring group, Scott Greenberg, to discuss the evolution of cooperation agreements within liability management exercises. They discuss the different types of co-ops, why co-ops have become expected in US deals, their spread to the EU, and the validity of antitrust arguments.Find all our coverage on co-ops at 9fin.com.Have any feedback on the podcast? Send us a note at

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23:24

Getty-ing back with your X, on Snapchat

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/02/26

Three media companies, in vaguely the same vicinity, in fair debt markets where we lay our scene — where ancient business models encounter new scrutiny, and AI generates images you can’t unsee…Valentine’s Day has been and gone, so why on earth are we besmirching Romeo and Juliet with terrible puns? You should listen to the episode for the full picture, but basically we’re discussing three recent debt transactions from X/Twitter, Snap, and Getty Images.These deals might not seem immediately

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7:24

For the continuation fun[d] of it

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/02/21

In the private equity world, continuation vehicles have been a bit of a blockbuster, so can the structure's success transfer to private credit?We have already seen BlackRock's $1.3bn continuation vehicle last year, and some market participants are expecting to see even more in 2025. On the other side however, this might not be as straight forward as in the PE world, and there is a growing pool of skeptics.In this episode of Cloud 9fin, senior private credit reporter Synne Johnsson sits down

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41:24

SRT leverage is fun and cool

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/02/14

We talk a lot about leverage at the 9fin office (it’s kind of the story behind our company name, in case you were wondering) so it should come as no surprise that we think it’s interesting. But in the world of Significant Risk Transfer, it’s especially fascinating — and controversial.You may have caught the story that Celeste Tamers, part of our growing asset-based finance team, broke last week about Deutsche Bank pulling back from offering repo financing on SRT trades.In this episode of

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21:29

Jane's LME Addiction: Never been in Better Health

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/02/13

Long live liability management.In this episode of our new show Jane’s LME Addiction, our head of LME coverage Jane Komsky brings in Latham & Watkins partner George Klidonas and C Street founder and CEO Jon Henes, to discuss the Better Health transaction and its implications for future LMEs.Also under discussion: how liability management has taken off as an industry, how law firms and advisors are adapting to this boom in business, and the creative moves market participants are making to

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14:09

Another maturity in the wall

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/02/10

Publicly traded leveraged debt issuers are facing a collective maturity wall of $219 billion in the coming years. But unlike the Chiefs' offensive line in the Super Bowl, credit market watchers aren't expecting that wall to collapse.In this episode of Cloud 9fin, US managing editor Bill Weisbrod sits down with credit analyst Ben Dickerman and leveraged finance reporter Dan Mika about their recent piece looking at how the 2026-27 maturity wall in the US is shaping up.Among the highlights:

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21:09

Fútbol, football, private credit

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/02/06

With Super Bowl Sunday upon us, much like over a third of the US, we thought we’d focus on sports.Private credit has been circling sports for some time as an investment opportunity. Many regulatory changes in the past year and an increasing number of emerging sports leagues have brought it back into view to begin this year.In this episode of Cloud 9fin, senior reporter Peter Benson sits down with Aaron Kless, managing partner and CIO at Andalusian Credit Partners, to discuss all things

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39:54

Private credit ping pong

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/02/03

People love to talk about the battle between banks and private credit firms in leveraged debt markets. And at a high level, it’s true that the dealflow has bounced back and forth between the two over recent years — but markets are a lot more complex than a game of table tennis.In this episode of Cloud 9fin, Synne Johnsson sits down with Soren Christensen, partner and head of capital markets at Cinven, and Amit Bahri, co-head of European direct lending at Goldman Sachs, to break down how

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6:26

How are the Southern California wildfires impacting...

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/01/22

The full extent of the damage from this season’s California wildfires is yet to be determined, but one thing that is certain is that some leveraged credits are starting to feel the heat.In this week’s episode of Cloud 9fin, US managing editor Bill Weisbrod and deputy leveraged finance editor Sasha Padbidri survey the extent of the damage and discuss which industries are among the most impacted.Find Sasha’s latest report about the wildfires’ impact on leveraged credits here. If you have any

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8:07

How many private credit managers does an LP really need?

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/01/15

After years of growth and positive sentiment, 2024 saw private credit’s smallest fundraising haul since 2019. But the year-on-year drop in capital raised was far less significant than the drop in the number of funds that were closed.In this week’s episode of Cloud 9fin, US private credit editor David Brooke and reporter Anna Russi discuss the latest results in private credit fundraising and how LPs are consolidating around their favorite firms. The conversation walks through how investors

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17:30

Introducing Jane's LME addiction: The bookends of the...

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/01/08

For this week’s Cloud 9fin episode, we’re launching a new monthly recurring series: Jane’s LME Addiction, in which distressed legal analyst Jane Komsky dives into the latest news in liability management. Joined by 9fin global head of distressed and restructuring Max Frumes and 9fin head of legal James Wallick, Jane walks through the landmark decision out of the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in the Serta Simmons case and what it means for LMEs going forward.Find all our coverage on Serta at

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32:24

More tailwinds than headwinds for CLOs in 2025

Cloud 9fin ·

2024/12/18

A record breaking year comes to an end. What could possibly come next? How about another?In this week's episode of Cloud 9fin, Tanvi Gupta, global head of CLOs at 9fin, talks with Pratik Gupta, head of CLO and RMBS research at Bank of America, to discuss the outlook for 2025. They talk about ETFs, performance across the CLO capital structure, LMEs, co-op agreements, HY bond buckets and why 2025 might match the record breaking levels of issuance we've seen in 2024.Have any feedback on the

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35:45

How to fix a broken balance sheet

Cloud 9fin ·

2024/12/11

Who is more invested in a breakfast of eggs and bacon — a chicken or a pig? And what does this have to do with leveraged finance?Find out in this week’s episode of Cloud 9fin as global head of distressed debt and restructuring Max Frumes talks with Mike Harmon about his forthcoming book The Financial Restructuring Tool Set: How to Fix Your Broken Balance Sheet. They talk about the various ways that a company can restructure in and out of court, the evolution of the distressed debt playbook,

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46:52

On becoming the voice of Europe's buyside

Cloud 9fin ·

2024/12/04

After a great run co-founding and helping to build up the European Leveraged Finance Association, Sabrina Fox is putting ELFA on the shelf to focus on her work at Fox Legal Training and Good Girl to Goddess.In this episode of Cloud 9fin, ESG analyst Jennifer Munnings sits down with Sabrina to explore how ELFA has shaped buyside engagement and elevated standards in credit markets. From the rise of J.Crew blockers and their impact on covenant protections to ELFA’s efforts to foster

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13:32

The case for middle market lending

Cloud 9fin ·

2024/11/27

Are you a business owner and now looking to retire? Not to worry, because as private equity sponsors fund that move to Florida, their acquisitions are made possible by the private credit firms which have cultivated a lower middle market lending strategy.But lower middle market lending is, of course, not without its challenges. Intensifying competition from firms honing in on the space and a complicated macroeconomic picture have pushed pricing down to levels last seen in the giddy days of

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13:03

Lycra stretches out for private credit

Cloud 9fin ·

2024/11/25

More and more, the lines are blurring between our private credit and distressed coverage.In this episode of Cloud 9fin, private credit editor David Brooke mines the reportage of Bianca Boorer, senior distressed debt reporter, and Shubham Saharan, senior private credit reporter. They talk about the challenge Lycra’s stakeholders face in navigating the company’s balance sheet, and why the company is considering a private credit option, even if it wouldn’t provide it with all the liquidity —

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35:50

What could go wrong in the 'golden age' of private...

Cloud 9fin ·

2024/11/20

Not all that glitters is gold. And not everyone agrees that the recent era for private credit should be called “the golden age.”In this week’s episode of Cloud 9fin, produced in partnership with Arena Investors, senior private credit reporter Peter Benson sits down with Arena co-founding CEO and CIO Dan Zwirn to talk through his latest white paper. He takes a contrarian look at the direct lending space, and considers whether this high-rate environment will turn out to be as fruitful for

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