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The Two Matts

Join The New World"s Matt Kelly and Matt d"Ancona plus occasional guests for weekly chat on politics and media with a side of cultural stuff. A podcast in the spirit of the award-winning New World newspaper - irreverent, witty, surprising, argumentative ... and annoying all the right people. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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1:03:19

What really makes humans tick? And what’s going on in...

The Two Matts ·

2025/07/03

The Matts are joined by Jonathan Goodman, author of Invisible Rivals, a fascinating book about what really makes the world go round and its consequences for religion, politics and media. It’s a revelatory conversation that will change how you think about society. Also the tragic death of Diogo Jota and his brother, plus what the hell is going on in Number Ten? Enjoy!OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2mattsBuy Invisible Rivals through our

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43:00

Meanwhile in Gaza… Have we lost our moral compass?

The Two Matts ·

2025/07/01

The Matts reflect on the prospect of famine in Gaza while the UK media obsesses on the antics of a rapper on a Glastonbury stage. Why is the crisis facing hundreds of thousands of children relegated to an afterthought? Why does Keir Starmer say more about Bob Vylan than the humanitarian disaster on the eastern shore of the Med?Also: can Starmer survive the pirouettes of u-turns he is performing as the Parliamentary Labour Party rejects his welfare bill? As we approach his year anniversary in power,

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37:12

This week's Two Matts Q&A: Could Just Stop Oil now be...

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/29

The Matts again respond to your queries. They discuss whether the government’s Palestine Action decision means Just Stop Oil could now be considered terrorists, if AI could actually be the populists’ worst nightmare and the genius of David Lynch.Plus they debate whether journalists should strive for detachment, Keir Starmer’s on-off welfare cuts and which is most cringeworthy: Mark Rutte calling Donald Trump Daddy, Trump comparing Israel and Iran to two schoolkids having a scrap in a playground or

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44:22

Keir Starmer in big trouble at home

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/26

As the international news agenda moves at a frenzied pace, back home Keir Starmer faces a crisis of his own. The Matts explore the depth of feeling from amongst his own backbenchers against his welfare bill. It’s a crisis wholly of his own making and as Reform continues to surge in the polls, it bodes badly for all of us. Also - why did Mark Rutte call Trump daddy? And what was the Matts’ greatest Glasto moment? All will be revealed! Enjoy!OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month

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45:39

Trump drags the world to the edge of reality

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/24

It’s been a few days of head-spinning consequence and the Matts explore the thinking of the man at its heart - Donald Trump. They kick off with an extraordinary moment; Trump losing his cool as Israel and Iran both appear to defy his ceasefire - but then the conversation moves quickly to what this means for the Middle East, for the UK, the United Nations, for NATO, and for the future of Europe. There’s a lot of ground covered this week … buckle up.OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first

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41:30

This week's Two Matts Q&A: Are we witnessing the...

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/22

The Matts again respond to your queries. They discuss whether we are witnessing the early stages of a global war without anyone admitting it, if we have collectively deleted our memory of 2016 and when we started confusing billionaires with philosophers. Plus there’s talk of whether Keir Starmer should have stooped at the feet of Donald Trump, if having children is ethical and what actually defines genius.OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to

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47:02

The week the world holds its breath

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/19

As missiles fly between Israel and Iran, the Matts explore the long backstory to a conflict that has the capacity to spark a truly global conflict. Why has Netanyahu chosen now to attack? What can Iranians hope for? How will Keir Starmer handle the fact he is caught between a rock and hard place. And the biggest question of all: What will Trump do now. Ok - so not even Trump knows that - but the Matts explore the options. One note of light relief - MAGA is in a mess over it. It’s a small silver

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48:43

The genius of myth-busting ... with Helen Lewis

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/17

The Matts are joined by Helen Lewis, journalist and author of The Genius Myth: A Curious History of a Dangerous Idea for a fascinating deep-dive into what it means to be a genius. Why does society worship difficult men? Who gets left out of the genius narrative? And what if collaboration, not isolation, is the real source of greatness? Enjoy!OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more

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32:43

Q&A: Is the Trump-Musk rift far from amusing?

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/15

The Matts discuss whether the rift between Donald Trump and Elon Musk is actually far from amusing, if the US president is being insulated from the mockery being hurled at him and what is going on with the so-called Epstein files. Plus they talk about how to fix the manosphere, the way to react to Quran burnings and potential acronyms to give to Nigel Farage. Enjoy!OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts Hosted on Acast. See

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59:40

The extraordinary science of creativity with Marcus...

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/12

The Matts are joined in the studio by one of the world’s greatest explainers of science; Marcus du Sautoy to discuss his new book Blueprints: How Mathematics Shapes Creativity. It’s a thrilling conversation which leaves both Matts wondering … why can’t maths lessons in schools be this interesting?! Join them as Marcus explains how great art, music and literature all have the power of numbers embedded within - and how maths can transform your personal creativity. But first - the Matts discuss the

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48:31

Down and out in the manosphere - with James Bloodworth

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/10

The Matts are joined by author James Bloodworth whose new book Lost Boys is a brilliantly insightful exploration of misogyny and conspiracy rife within groups of young men today. James does what many journalists don’t - he goes on the road, all over the world, to meet with his subjects and understand what drives this alarming phenomenon. From Red Pill and Black Pill conspiracies to Instagram’s algorithmic gateway into Andrew Tate, James explains how the manosphere works … starting with his own

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29:03

Is the Brexit argument now behind us?

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/08

Today on The Two Matts podcast Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. They discuss whether the New World means the Brexit argument is now behind us, the emotive language around treating sex offenders and whether Keir Starmer needs to be replaced by a better entertainer. There’s also talk of whether Thames Water should be turned into a mutual, Donald Trump’s madness and tacos.OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head tohttps://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts

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54:40

The New European becomes The New World - with...

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/05

The Matts are joined by Alastair Campbell to discuss today’s big news - the rebrand of The New European to The New World. Why are we changing? Who is The New World for? Who will be writing in it... and about what. All will be revealed. Founder and editor-in-chief Matt Kelly and editor-at-large Matthew d’Ancona explain the thinking and ambition behind this new chapter in the publishing success that started life as a 4-week pop-up… and turned into the fastest growing title in the UK. While Alastair

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45:55

Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Putin?

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/03

Britain faces an unprecedented litany of threat, at home and abroad. If you want to know just how bad it is, don’t worry - we’ve got the full list. The Matts praise Keir Starmer’s response … and explore the consequences. Also - why Hope Not Hate are the good guys and a humbling encounter with Ed Vaizey. It’s all going on! Enjoy!EXCLUSIVE OFFER: Get The New European for just £1 for the first month. Head totheneweuropean.co.uk/2matts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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36:34

Rwanda 2.0, communications failures and Jane Austen...

The Two Matts ·

2025/06/01

Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. The pair discuss whether the Trump administration is aping the Tories' Rwanda scheme, why the government is so bad at communications and if Cyril Ramaphosa is really someone to admire. Plus the best way to treat prisoners with mental health or substance issues, the MAGA maniacs sticking their noses into the Polish elections and posh accents in Jane Austen dramas.EXCLUSIVE OFFER: Get The New European for just £1 for the first month. Head

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41:48

What were Musk and Trump smoking?

The Two Matts ·

2025/05/29

The falling out between Elon Musk and Donald Trump was predictable enough but consequential all the same. The Matts explore what this says about the Trump administration and the personal damage to Musk. Also - as Sadiq Khan calls for the decriminalisation of small amounts of cannabis, the Matts take a deep breath and try to bring some perspective to an issue that has sent all their usual dopes into a frenzy. Enjoy!EXCLUSIVE OFFER: Get The New European for just £1 for the first month. Head

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50:44

What the tragedy in Liverpool tells us about Britain

The Two Matts ·

2025/05/27

The shocking events in Liverpool remain the source of more questions than answers, but one particular area - the disclosure that the suspect is “white British” - speaks volumes about the country we have become. The Matts consider the history of erroneous rushes to judgement - and how this age of social media makes the consequences of those errors so much worse. Also this week - what’s Farage’s plan … and how can Starmer stop him? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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33:40

The Daily Mail, wisdom and nostalgia for the Tories

The Two Matts ·

2025/05/25

Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. They discuss whether Keir Starmer really believes the Daily Mail can ever be won over, if there's a case for the study of wisdom in the age of AI and whether they share one reader's nostalgia for the dying days of the last Tory government.Plus there's talk about whether the media panders to Nigel Farage and Donald Trump, the groupthink of the Lobby and the collective madness over Oasis.EXCLUSIVE OFFER: Get The New European for just £1

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44:05

Chemical castration and the government’s prison plan...

The Two Matts ·

2025/05/22

Is the government’s new plan for dealing with our burgeoning prison population sensible? And is it a vote winner? Two very different questions - the Matts discuss. And did the red top tabloids fall for the oldest trick in the art of political communications? Also this week - what did Trump’s Oval Office ambush of the South African President this week add up to? More than It appears is the Matts verdict. Enjoy!EXCLUSIVE OFFER: Get The New European for just £1 for the first month. Head

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50:09

Brexit is dead. Long live the future

The Two Matts ·

2025/05/20

The Matts are on something of a high. This week’s EU deal suddenly feels much more consequential than they’d expected. Credit (for once) to Starmer … even in his technocratic monotone, he presided over a clear vibe shift in the UK’s relationship with the EU. No, it doesn’t go nearly far enough. No, it’s not rejoin. But yes … it’s a new pathway and it feels like we have, finally, a PM willing to start fixing the mess of the last 9 years. The hard yards start now, but at least we can be confident that

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