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Perpetual Traffic

Perpetual Traffic is a twice weekly podcast for CMOs, marketing directors, and business owners who want to master paid advertising, scale their businesses profitably and stay one step ahead of the shifting paid advertising landscape of today. Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend) and Lauren Petrullo (award-winning CEO of Mongoose Media), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case

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42:15

[Case Study]: 5 Steps to High-Converting On-Brand...

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2025/05/20

Ralph Burns and Lauren Schwartz return for the third installment of the Beauty Brand Scaling Series—and it’s their most tactical one yet. They pull back the curtain on the exact creative strategies that consistently scale 7- and 8-figure beauty brands. You’ll hear how brands fall into the trap of choosing aesthetics over performance—and why that’s costing them real revenue. Ralph breaks down why creative is the biggest gear in Tier 11’s conversion engine, while Lauren shares how their system blends

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[Breaking]: How to Test (& De-Dupe) Meta Advantage+...

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2025/05/16

In this special Tier 11 lab episode, Ralph Burns and John Moran pull back the curtain on a powerful new Meta ad tactic: the CAPI import strategy. Learn how to eliminate costly data duplication, master new customer acquisition cost (NCAC) tracking by individual SKU, and scale your Advantage+ campaigns using a two-ad-set system that blends testing and scaling. If you’re running Meta or Google Ads and want accurate reporting, optimized spend, and smarter campaign architecture, this is the episode to

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33:26

What’s Working Now: Meta Andromeda Update, TikTok...

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2025/05/13

Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo pull back the curtain on Meta’s latest Advantage+ transformation, powered by the underreported Andromeda algorithm. With Meta silently replacing manual campaign controls with full automation, the hosts dive into what this shift means for media buyers, business owners, and performance marketers. From breaking down Advantage+ Shopping's evolution to analyzing its strategic implications for ad spend and conversion optimization, Ralph and Lauren explain why understanding

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35:40

Selling Your Agency for $10M+: The Untold Obstacles...

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2025/05/09

Ralph and Lauren sit down with Chris Martinez—founder of Bloom Partners and architect behind Agency Freedom Live—to expose what’s really wrong with the digital marketing agency space. With over a decade of experience, Chris shares hard-earned lessons on how bloated promises, shallow metrics, and lack of accountability are destroying agency reputations. If you're tired of BS and ready to scale your agency the right way—with real metrics and leadership that delivers—this episode is your roadmap

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24:50

How To Tariff-Proof Your Beauty & Wellness Brand with...

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2025/05/06

Ralph is joined by Lauren Schwartz, Head of Creative Strategy at Tier 11 and founder of The Loft 325, to dissect the pressing challenges facing beauty and wellness brands in 2025. From skyrocketing tariffs (up to 145%) to ever-tightening Meta ad restrictions, Lauren shares how smart brands are adapting—using compliant creative strategies that still drive conversions. You’ll hear how to future-proof your product messaging, the hidden costs every marketer should be aware of, and the exact tactics that

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57:33

How Meta Ads Are Changing Forever: Advantage+ & cAPI...

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2025/05/02

Ralph Burns and John Moran, the Perpetual Traffic team unpacks the massive Meta ad platform changes now affecting marketers globally. As Advantage+ campaigns edge out manual controls, Ralph and John expose what’s really going on under the hood—and what advertisers must do to adapt. With over $1 million in ad spend analyzed from their proprietary “lab,” you’ll get front-row insight into how Tier 11 is pivoting for better ROI using an unnamed—but highly effective—CAPI-based custom event system. If

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53:19

How to Acquire New Customers Profitably Using The...

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2025/04/29

Ralph Burns welcomes Nick Miller, the Head of Traffic at Tier 11, to unpack the most important metric you’re probably not tracking—nCAC (New Cost to Acquire a Customer). A former professional musician turned media buying maestro, Nick walks us through the evolution of the nCAC calculator, the metric’s massive impact on client results, and why ROAS is no longer king. You’ll hear the behind-the-scenes of how Tier 11’s top media buyers use this tool to optimize spend, scale smarter, and avoid

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20:39

The MAJOR Meta Advantage+ Changes You Must Know

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2025/04/25

Meta’s at it again—major changes are rolling out inside the ad platform, and if you're not adapting, you're already behind. In this fast-paced episode, Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo rip into the new developments around Advantage+ campaigns on Meta. No fluff, no filler—just hard-hitting insights on how the new algorithmic shift affects advertisers differently depending on their vertical, budget, and approach.The duo breaks down what’s really changing inside Meta, why this isn’t just another

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34:27

Stop Burnout Now: 5 Simple Health Tips for Marketers

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2025/04/22

Ralph and Lauren strip back the curtain on what it really takes to lead a high-growth business without losing your health in the process. From Ralph’s switch to veganism after two life-threatening heart events to Lauren’s obsession with Whoop and bio-tracking, they explore how personal wellness is the hidden lever behind sustainable business performance. You'll hear firsthand how metrics like HRV, sleep optimization, and even digital detoxes are giving these two agency founders a serious edge—and

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30:12

How The Top Beauty Brands Turn Online Trends into...

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2025/04/18

Ralph reunites with paid media creative expert Lauren Schwartz for Part 2 of their deep dive into what makes beauty brand creatives truly perform. Lauren, founder of The Loft 325, unpacks how her team leverages emerging trends—like food-inspired visuals and creator authenticity—to build content that doesn’t just look pretty, but sells. From Hailey Bieber’s strawberry face trend to Halloween-ready lash looks and Cinnamon Toast Crunch-inspired lip gloss campaigns, Lauren shares real-world strategies

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49:11

Beauty & Wellness Brands: How to Crush Your Creative...

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2025/04/15

Ralph and Lauren P. sit down with Tier 11’s Creative Director, Lauren Schwartz—formerly of The Loft 325—to unpack what truly drives high-performing ad creative in the premium beauty and wellness space. Drawing from years of experience and countless tests across major ad platforms, Lauren reveals why most brands are getting creative wrong and how to shift from “pretty” to “profitable.” From bridging the communication gap with design teams to using data to override subjective bias, this episode

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45:28

[Premium Beauty & Wellness Case Study] How We...

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2025/04/11

Ralph Burns unpacks a powerful case study from Tier 11’s vault that showcases how one beauty and wellness brand increased revenue by 57% and new customer acquisition by 73%—all without relying on TikTok or short-form content. Ralph dives into the exact creative strategies, ad structures, and conversion-optimized landing pages that drove the results, with an emphasis on the underutilized power of long-form video, Meta Ads, and segmentation by NAC and NAOV. If you're a DTC brand looking to scale

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26:25

How CMOs & Marketers Can Profit From Trump’s...

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2025/04/08

Ralph and Lauren break down the immediate and long-term implications of the recently imposed tariffs—and what savvy marketers and business owners must do right now to stay ahead. From navigating rising costs of goods to uncovering massive ad spend inefficiencies (including a shocking $1.2 million in wasted budget), they share cutting-edge tactics for scaling during economic disruption. You’ll hear real-world client insights, why now might be a golden moment for ad buying, and how to tap into the

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43:39

3 Jaw-Dropping Takeaways from Shoptalk & SXSW

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2025/04/04

Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo reconnect to unpack Lauren’s whirlwind tour through three of the biggest marketing events of the year: ShopTalk, South by Southwest (SXSW), and Podcast Evolution. From radically inconsistent product launches to Gen Z’s zero loyalty game, Lauren brings raw, in-the-room insights that challenge conventional playbooks. Discover how $200K vendor booths, haunted childhood bedrooms, and an invite-only Google quantum AI session all tie back to the future of customer

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01:02:43

Answered: How Can I Do What I Do Best & Outsource The...

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2025/04/01

Ralph Burns shares a special guest appearance he made on the Affiliated Podcast with hosts Tom and Kyle. While Lauren was away traveling, Ralph dove into his personal journey from affiliate marketer to agency owner, offering valuable insights on scaling a business through strategic delegation. He breaks down how to stop doing everything yourself and instead focus on what you do best—echoing themes from “Who Not How” and “10x Is Easier Than 2x.” Whether you're a media buyer, business owner, or

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39:17

[Live Demo] How to Determine an Membership/eComm...

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2025/03/28

In this special live workshop edition of the podcast, the team at Tier 11 dives into a behind-the-scenes strategy session with a real brand, tackling the financial backbone of scalable growth. From calculating Net Allowable CAC (NAC) to mapping out customer LTV and building membership-first funnels, this episode is packed with actionable insights. Discover how to avoid costly scaling mistakes, implement profit-first media strategies, and make smarter decisions with the right data. Whether you're

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30:39

5 AI video tools you can’t live without with Ian Garlic

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2025/03/25

Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo sit down with online video storytelling expert Ian Garlic to unpack the collision of artificial intelligence and video marketing. Broadcasting from the legendary Casa de Garlic, they dive into how AI is reshaping content creation—and the critical difference between smart augmentation and soulless automation. Ian shares insider tools, real-world use cases (including a wild Florida Bar AI debacle), and a framework for scaling video that connects, converts, and ranks

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37:11

(Part 2) Why ROAS Sucks: The New Marketing Metric...

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2025/03/21

In Part 2 Ralph Burns and John Moran continue their breakdown of why ROAS (Return on Ad Spend) is an outdated and misleading metric for scaling businesses. They introduce a better, more reliable metric that high-growth brands use to measure success—one that actually aligns with business revenue and profit, rather than vanity numbers. Expect insights on how to use Meta for prospecting and Google for conversions, why multi-channel attribution is essential in today’s digital landscape, and how top

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47:44

(Part 1) Why ROAS Sucks: The New Marketing Metric...

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2025/03/18

Return on Ad Spend (ROAS) has been the go-to metric for measuring success in digital advertising, but is it actually holding your business back? In this episode, we break down why traditional ROAS is misleading, how agencies manipulate data to appear successful, and what you should be focusing on instead. John Moran joins the conversation to discuss the metrics that actually drive growth, including Media Efficiency Ratio (MER) and New Customer Acquisition Cost (NCAC). Learn how to shift your

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44:31

How to Use Video to Sell Stuff….The Right Way with...

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2025/03/14

Ralph and Lauren sit down with Ian Garlic, the founder of Video Case Story, to uncover the most effective ways to use video for sales. While most brands flood social media with endless content, Ian reveals why simply creating more video isn’t enough. Instead, he shares a strategic approach to video marketing—one that moves prospects seamlessly from awareness to purchase without relying on traditional ad clicks. Whether you’re struggling with attribution, unsure if your video efforts are paying off,

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