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Curious Creatures

Lol Tolhurst & Budgie

Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk"s enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.

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35:27

Meg Myers Pt. 1: I Am Not The Body

Curious Creatures ·

2023/03/23

I am Not the Body.Meg found ‘Running up That Hill’ after 2nd album tour burn-out had an Overwhelming realization - that the Universe had her back 36 years surviving dissociation from her body the change is that the challenge is now happening for her, not to herNo more people pleasing – an Evolution into a Safer spacean epiphany of self-realization. One Universe of Expression. Shutting out the opinions and expectation of others Difficult, intense, magical time leading to greater wisdomRemoving the

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39:07

Ilan Rubin Pt. 2: Non-Dancing-Dancing – It’s The...

Curious Creatures ·

2023/03/16

Lol’s Spare HoF Statuette The NIN drum throne came free againBeck’s groovy tune was keeping us sane! The Youngest to be in the Hall of FameSays, ‘Two or Two Hundred the Energy’s the same’Bob needed convincing and nothing less Lol asked Trent and Trent said Yes! TOTP not OGWTIf we didn’t do Top of The Pops someone awful would. Did Talvin see Budgie play an Electronic Marimba?Ilan is a Musician and Drums his first love The Rhythm of Music and the Energy of Life! More About Drums and Food!Guitarists

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42:57

Ilan Rubin Pt. 1: Terror in The IEMS - NIN and Beyond!

Curious Creatures ·

2023/03/09

When not on tour Ilan is at his mixing deskNo exercise for young Lol - now he loves the gym The Cure main man does not - (Unless he pumps at night)Lol was a man of extremes - Smoking was his hardest stop Budgie sent a taxi for his ciggies - and sometimes ate a Porky-Pie (Or was that his drum co.?) No gaffe tape on Budgie’s drums Instantaneous?Budgie and Lol hear their twisted addled brains Will Budgie live in Lols garage?Jimmy Page told Pearl he’s too friggin’ loud! Budgie and the tricks of The

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31:59

Miki Berenyi Pt. 3: Drugs are Bad? - The...

Curious Creatures ·

2023/03/02

The first time may be exciting, but it sucks the life out of everything.It's the druggist’s dilemma - missing stuff when young Lush stopped and Everything changedIt's good the world changed too. Early 90’s Game Changers Life without a safety net, no gold watchLol found his Inner Chuck Berry in South America Miki Liked that and Budgie’s drummingThe Cure and The Banshees emerged from an Innocent Time Gilbert and George v Lol and BudgieDrinking with The Wankers at 5amFrom Whitechapel to SohoBrit Pop

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35:48

Miki Berenyi Pt. 2: Bon Jovi on Tour or What?!

Curious Creatures ·

2023/02/23

Miki as Unsettled global travellerMiki as Chameleon in retreat Miki and band as family What the industry wants, the public gets. Miki angered by press with no vision for female fronted bandsFor the lack of imagination to talk to a band with interesting corners Britop was a return to the bad of the 70’s with image and marketing dictating TOTP and the flashing neon Siouxsie sign Lol went off the rails at 22 The Cure should have taken a break Delivering product can destroy a bandThe Brits love you

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46:36

Miki Berenyi Pt. 1: Miss being in a band? Loved it...

Curious Creatures ·

2023/02/16

Miki and Budgie met a long time ago – was it after a Curve show?Miki with Red hair, Budgie with blonde they were a good Match!Struck up many enlightening conversations!!The lost evenings with Donald - hairdresser to the stars. Budgie drank in Heaven (Underneath the Arches) Picked up a date but didn’t realise it, Not green, but pleasant, especially after a few Manhattans!We were all young then! Emotional Babies! Budgie and Lol love Miki’s Memoir! Honest and Authentic - which it’s hard to Be. Miki and

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40:18

Nick Launay Pt. 2: Tricks of the Trade & 3 Corners of...

Curious Creatures ·

2023/02/09

It was The Birthday Party’s 1st London gig When Budgie gate-crashed their dressing room The party was a witty one from midnight ‘til DawnMelting in the daylight at 7am, all bright and scrubbed. Editing for K-Tel specials,Nick fearlessly edits the multi-track vertically AND horizontally!Lol bought ‘The Lamb’, with a scratch that jumped in time - A miracle! Budgie feels the spirit of ‘76 with The Chats’ Smoko,& Amyl and the Sniffers - Listen to the Big Bass Drum Lolly T and Mickey D went for Lunch in

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50:09

Nick Launay Pt. 1: Lucky Break & Making Fackin’ Music...

Curious Creatures ·

2023/02/02

Lol in Tasmania small and cool. Damien Hirst diamonds and Berlin fish Fool Kevorkian death blanket is the best in showMedical flip-flops in the house of Ringo. Virgin Townhouse & Hedges’ Battery. Nick and Phil Collins in drum-fill Flattery Terry Chambers and XTC – in Another Green World lives a young Budgie Nick began life in Southern Spain – moved to London for the Pistols reignGood with loops Nick remixed tapes M’s “Pop Music” gave the biggest breaks Got Nick the job with Lydon’s PILCoz’ the

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34:21

Julianne Regan Pt. 2: Dharma Transmission – Nothing...

Curious Creatures ·

2023/01/26

When Life was bad - only music will save Lol & Robert see the Stranglers together Worship at the thrones of Tama and ZildjianLols first kit - took years to buy! Budgie’s first kit has a facelift for Cut Meet the creme de la creme of Liverpool misfitsHansa signed The Cure for the way they looked Julianne is transformed when playing live Budgie loves talking to the audience - offstageLol prefers a big crowd – not the whites of their eyesJulianne liked the fragrance of pipe tobacco But smoke never

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39:40

Julianne Regan Pt. 1: Eve, Chaucer and the Wife of Bath

Curious Creatures ·

2023/01/19

Julianne and Budgie in Making Music Mag.No Makeup - No Instruments - No Agenda Disco 45 Mag was Lol’s fave Cure cover Song-Words Mag was Budgie’s 10p bible Glossy Crawley Colour - Grim Black & White up North Streets of gold or fairy slides in Glass walls? 18 with Permed hair - Elvis Presley or Tony Curtis? Lol was in Thin Lizzy with his Blue Velvet Jacket and Jeans? Yeah!!Julianne adopted Bowie’s ‘Low’, hair colour Budgie, Bleach and Booze at Sorbie’s SalonAll cats now greying, with

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31:08

Rachel Goswell Pt. 2: Female Energy

Curious Creatures ·

2023/01/05

Breaking Silence.This is Rachel’s first interview in three years - we are honoured. Serendipity.Rachel saw Lol Kissing on tour - or did Rachel see Lol on the Kissing tour? Slowdive’s future drummer Simon was two rows behind RachelThough they didn’t meet for another 1000 days. Splendiferous.Kabuki intro made the crowd go mental Spinal Tap moment Pornography playing 100 years without a crash helmetRachel’s revolving Toronto stage. Every bad haircut and stupid interview on the Web

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36:11

Rachel Goswell Pt. 1: The Solitary and The Sociable

Curious Creatures ·

2022/12/15

Bits and Bobs Rachel’s in Devon where Lol once lived tooMy flower or Mayflower? It’s a right how-do-you-do!‘Where you to?’ is ‘What’s up!’ - like a cream tea servedThe Pilgrims’ Olde English in Aspic preserved Bobs and Books Log cabin moves and Festival grooves It was Great to be out of the BooksFrom Solitary to SocialisingPlaying Gigs and Fraternising After 3 years preparing the Hooks Books and BlackheadsSecret Messages from the studio - Bye-bye blackheads hello Budgie! The Banshees and The Cure

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32:10

Simone Marie Butler Pt. 2: All the Isms and Schisms

Curious Creatures ·

2022/12/08

The Isms Cometh! Budgie and The iconic Slits - Holly Johnson as a bad-ass-bass-player! 8th notes on the floortom - how LOW can you GO?)Don’t lose it - let your individuality flow. Simone cites Motown’s James Lee Emerson, Blockheads’ Norman Watt RoyAnd our old pal Simon Gallup as bass mentors. Plays like Poetry!Lol says Budgie is drums, Budgie says Lol is Drums, Lol says Bidgie is drims, Badgie sees Lil is Drams! Poetry like Pottery!Budgie in London’s China Town for Choco glasses and salad bowls.You

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44:03

Simone Marie Butler Pt. 1: The Chemistry Makes The Band

Curious Creatures ·

2022/12/01

The Sand. Out there, post-lockdown Screamadelica tour Tokyo, Japan and everywhere more Traditional politeness for the visiting BritsFirst gigs post-pandemic, please play all the hits! Lol liked the silence and the gifts from JapanBut he drank all the bath salts, which wasn’t the planSimone received sweetness to comb through her hair Budgie got Pocari Sweat at the Manga Street fair Cherry blossom season caused a big sake thirst,Who threw the phone through the window first?Robert and Siouxsie were

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32:29

Jennifer Otter Bickerdike Pt. 2: Down At The Glue...

Curious Creatures ·

2022/11/24

Lol and Budgie Join Hands in 197940 Years Beyond Music = The Mystique of Creating Culture Two Drummers Drumming = Our Mutual BondA Gang of Starving Artists = Salt Scrub Therapy? Books and Records = Earth and Identity Art and Money - Bad in Bed? Music as Religion and Revolution Budgie meets Francis Bacon in Harrods & Lucien Freud in NY?Another Green World just two beats away.Jen has a Sylvia Plath Pen and Ink(And we don’t mean a Cockney Stink) What If?Jimi Hendrix outlived Club 27 The Grave of Jim

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41:21

Jennifer Otter Bickerdike Pt. 1: Pyramid Schemes, a...

Curious Creatures ·

2022/11/17

Jen Loves Us! We are Nerds, Podcast virgins, we are old dogs for newwe have Budgie as Yenta - we have Lol in his pewwe have weddings in the desert - at the Church of Whatever,Budgie Tambourines for Jesus – it’s a Hooker’s Endeavour. Rock Star Cult! Like a Hawk holding Rings from Monday ‘til Sunday Every night is a Saturday when you’re in a band On a two-year tour – Jen’s teen love was the Cure It’s a Dark Gothic Berlin and a Devious Hollywood land I’m a Celebrity, Get me Out of Here! The Cult of

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44:53

Martin Atkins: The Hairs of the Dogs

Curious Creatures ·

2022/11/10

(Hello, Virgin Records?)Every mile away from LondonIs a mile away from where he needed to be.Subsequent Chronological Milestones: PIL (The Good Years) 79 - 85 / Killing Joke - Extremities / Ministry - In A Cage - 12 Weeks of insanityPig Face – 600 degrees of separation - Budgie has the baseball cap! NIN’S Head like a Hole and Wish / Murder Inc and still out there! Street lives…. (Rail ‘em in and Regiment)Setlists? Who uses a set-list?PIL had a looseness that belied their commitmentNew York Gig

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38:14

Pepper Somerset: Crimes Against Humanity

Curious Creatures ·

2022/11/03

Pepper Loves TKKNYC 1000 Years ago Lol jumps Boulders in Central ParkBanshees at the Beacon TheatreLol and The Cure again for ReflectionsBudgie at The Mayflower and The Grammercy Park Watch out for the Cockroaches! Lol Loves LA - Home Sweet Home!Not Discovered or Destroyed Personalities and Support SystemsPepper’s NYC lockdown - Throwing tips for food.Booster Party Time! Budgie and Pepper Chock full of AntibodiesNYC still loud!The Stage is still Fun!Choir at 7 years old Lol - no stage fright

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15:49

The Beatles Beatbox Us To It?

Curious Creatures ·

2022/10/27

Q:1 Mark C of the Gold Coast asks will Budgie make a Beatboxing debut?Budgie demonstrates the orifice-ial beats to ‘El Dia De Los Muertos’ and ‘Tattoo’. Maybe a beatbox compilation? Q:2 Eric Vonk asks about the 1980’s synth-drum – did we fall in love?Lol went, Tsch-tsch, Stephen Morris went, ka-ka-ka-ka and Budgie went, Dink-dink & Drooove!We all were in danger of serious wrist injury – but yes, we fell in love. Q:3 Eric also asks Lol for his happiest moment in The Cure, Lol talks about the Top and

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27:23

What Did We Say?

Curious Creatures ·

2022/10/20

Only his mother and Micky D., call Lol, LaurenceBudgie posits, Micky D., polished the shoes on the tour bus Were the banshees upset when Robert left the Banshees?What would have happened - had that not happened? Strangeness in the Studio Robert there, but not there - nothing was said there.Bobby Keys only for Hyaena - It was a long album.Bob’s position was untenable. Ideal of the band was primo important to Lol Post Pornography Chemistry Dysfunction (PPCD)Lol went to Cadaques with a French

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