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Education Futures

Svenia Busson & Laurent Jolie

A podcast about the future of education in the age of AI. We bring together interdisciplinary voices to explore how we can shape more desirable futures for learning.

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All Episodes

40:00

Rethinking Edtech: where is the evidence?

Education Futures ·

2026/03/23

Are we building educational technology faster than we can prove it actually works?In this episode of Education Futures, Svenia Busson speaks with Natalia Kucirkova, professor at the University of Stavanger and co-founder of the International Centre for EdTech Impact.Natalia has spent years researching how children learn, and how digital tools can (or cannot) support that process. Her work sits at the intersection of learning science, AI, and impact evaluation.As AI tools rapidly enter classrooms,

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45:31

What schools must protect in the age of AI

Education Futures ·

2026/03/19

What should we protect in education, as AI transforms how we learn, think, and work?In this episode of Education Futures, Svenia Busson speaks with Nick Krichevsky, a high school teacher and Head of Digitalization at the German International School Johannesburg in South Africa.With over 15 years of teaching experience across Germany and South Africa, Nick brings a grounded, classroom-based perspective to one of the most pressing questions of our time:What should education hold onto, and what should

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42:19

Rethinking university in the age of AI

Education Futures ·

2026/03/16

In this episode of Education Futures, Svenia Busson speaks with education entrepreneur Ed Fidoe, founder of London Interdisciplinary School and co-founder of School 21 in London.Ed has spent the last decade building new kinds of educational institutions from the ground up. His work challenges one of the core assumptions of higher education: that students should specialize in a single discipline.Instead, the London Interdisciplinary School is built around a radically different idea: teaching

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34:53

Peace building and education in the age of AI

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2026/03/12

In this episode, Svenia Busson speaks with Guila Clara Kessous, a UNESCO Artist for Peace and Harvard teacher, about the intersection of art, education, and peace-building. They explore how performing arts and literature can heal trauma and how "diplomatic entrepreneurship" can help the next generation navigate a world shaped by AI and social media.Key Topics Guila’s Journey: From performing arts conservatory to a PhD with Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel.Art Therapy & Bibliotherapy: Understanding how

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51:02

How Khan Academy is designing AI for learning

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2026/03/09

In this episode of Education Futures, we speak with Kristen DiCerbo, Chief Learning Officer at Khan Academy, where she leads the teams responsible for content, product design, assessment, and learning science.With a PhD in educational psychology, Kristen brings a rare perspective to the AI conversation: learning science first, technology second.We explore how Khan Academy is building Khanmigo, its AI tutor and teaching assistant, and what it takes to design AI tools that support real learning rather

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41:14

AI, literacy, and the global learning gap

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2026/03/04

By 2050, Sub-Saharan Africa will be home to nearly 1 billion people under 18.Today, 90% of 10-year-olds in the region cannot read a simple paragraph (according to the World Bank)What happens when artificial intelligence accelerates, but foundational literacy remains out of reach for millions of children?In this episode of Education Futures, Svenia Busson speaks with Paul Atherton, founder of Fab AI, about the future of AI in low- and middle-income countries, and whether it will close or widen the

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45:33

AI governance and child safety in education

Education Futures ·

2026/03/02

AI is already in classrooms. The real question is: who is responsible for governing it?In this episode of Education Futures, Svenia Busson sits down with Clara Hawking, founder of Compass Education, to explore what AI governance actually means for schools and educators.As governments roll out new regulations, including the EU AI Act, schools are facing urgent questions around compliance, safety, privacy, and responsibility. But governance is not just about following the law. It is about building

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46:10

How AI exposes inequities in modern schooling

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2026/02/23

In this episode of Education Futures, host Svenia Busson sits down with Ken Shelton, a 20-year teaching veteran and global thought leader in educational technology. Drawing from his experience working with schools in over 50 countries, Ken challenges the "all gas, no brakes" approach to AI, as well as the knee-jerk "ban and block" mentality seen in many governments.Key topics discussed in this episode include:The Digital Equity "Quilt": Why digital equity is about much more than just providing a

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48:20

Insights into Estonia’s OpenAI rollout

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2026/02/19

In this episode of Education Futures, we explore the "AI Leap"—Estonia's ambitious national strategy to roll out a specialized version of OpenAI across the entire country. Our guest, Jaan, is a neuroscientist and psychologist at the University of Tartu who is leading the scientific team overseeing and evaluating this project.Unlike standard implementations, Estonia has collaborated with OpenAI to create a custom, pedagogically driven tutor that prioritizes active learning . Jaan explains why this

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43:14

Using AI as a motivational translator

Education Futures ·

2026/02/16

In this episode of Education Futures, host Svenia Busson sits down with Alex Sarlin, the founder of EdTech Insiders and Global Edtech lead at the ASU GSV Summit . With over 15 years of experience at giants like Coursera and Skillshare, Alex provides a masterclass on where learning is headed in the age of generative AI.Alex challenges the dystopian view of AI as an isolating force, arguing instead that it will serve as a "motivational translator" and a facilitator for deeper human relationships

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57:45

Why hope is our greatest educational asset

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2026/02/09

In this episode, we sit down with François Taddei, Chief Exploration Officer of the Learning Planet Institute, to discuss the radical shifts needed in global education. François shares his vision of "ethical dream-weaving"—the process of building futures that are a nightmare for no one—and argues that in a world of polycrisis, hope and collective wisdom are the only tools that can truly scale.Key Themes & HighlightsThe Ethical Dreamer: François describes himself as a weaver of ethical dreams. He

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45:52

Translating AI research into educational reality

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2026/02/02

AI in education is evolving at a pace that often overwhelms teachers, school leaders, and policymakers. New tools appear weekly. Research lags behind practice. Hype fills the gap.So how do we make good decisions when certainty is impossible?In this episode of Education Futures, Svenia is joined by Chris Agnew, who leads the AI Hub for Education at the Stanford Accelerator for Learning.Chris brings a rare perspective to the AI conversation. With a background in environmental and experiential

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57:08

AI denial is the real risk

Education Futures ·

2026/01/26

In this episode of Education Futures, we welcome Louis Rosenberg — technologist, entrepreneur, and long-time researcher in virtual reality, augmented reality, and artificial intelligence.Louis has spent decades building technologies designed to augment human intelligence and warning about the risks when we fail to understand what we are building.In this conversation, we focus on a phenomenon Louis has recently written extensively about: AI denial: society’s tendency to underestimate AI’s

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40:27

Education for the stewardship of the commons

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2026/01/19

What is education actually for, in a world where AI can increasingly do things for us?In this episode of Education Futures, recorded at the Learning Planet Institute in Paris, we sit down with Seth Frey, professor at UC Davis working at the intersection of computer science, social science, and self-governance.Seth’s work focuses on a rarely discussed question:what skills do humans need to run things together — responsibly, collectively, and democratically?Rather than framing AI as a tool to

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41:12

When AI forces Universities to face reality

Education Futures ·

2026/01/12

What if artificial intelligence isn’t the real threat to higher education?In this episode of Education Futures, we speak with Michael Burgess, a sharp and uncompromising voice on the future of higher education, to unpack a provocative idea:Universities don’t have a technology problem, they have a strategy problem.Michael argues that AI isn’t breaking universities. It’s revealing what has been broken for a long time.Together, we explore:Why higher education’s operating model hasn’t fundamentally

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48:52

Imagining better futures in the age of AI

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2026/01/05

Are we really living through the worst moment in history, or are we actually in the best position ever to build a better future?In this episode of Education Futures, we welcome Beatrice Erkers, Existential Hope Program Manager at the Foresight Institute.Beatrice works at the intersection of technology, long-term thinking, and societal progress, helping people move beyond doom narratives to imagine desirable futures — and take responsibility for shaping them.Together, we explore:Why pessimism about

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39:36

A student's take on learning in the age of AI

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2025/12/29

What does school look like through the eyes of a 15-year-old who actually uses AI to learn, not just to finish homework faster?In this episode of Education Futures, Laurent & Svenia sit down with Hudson, a high school student from San Diego who is already doing computer science education research, and working with a UCSD mentor on learning science–informed approaches to teaching.Hudson shares a strikingly clear perspective on what’s broken in today’s education system, and what could be rebuilt

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25:59

Why teach coding in the age of vibe coding

Education Futures ·

2025/12/22

Is learning how to code still relevant when AI can generate code for us?In this episode of Education Futures, we sit down with Dora Palfi, founder of imagi, to explore what computer science education should become in an AI-driven world — and what must not be lost along the way.Dora has a background in computer science and neuroscience and has spent years working at the intersection of education, technology, and equity. Her core conviction is clear: AI should not become a shortcut that removes

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38:56

🇬🇧 A youth dialogue on keeping the future human

Education Futures ·

2025/12/16

In this special award-winning series for the Future of Life Institute's Keep the Future Human contest, host Svenia Busson sits down with teenagers from across Europe and the US.In this episode, host Svenia Busson sits down with three international students based in Paris and Barcelona: Emma (13), Jack (14), and Hector (16). Moving between metaphors of movies and video game controllers, they tackle a fear that isn't about Terminator robots, but about something much quieter: human atrophy.Together,

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41:44

🇫🇷 A youth dialogue on keeping the future human

Education Futures ·

2025/12/16

(EPISODE IN FRENCH - ENGLISH SUBTITLES AVAILABLE ON YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/iR5IhYTjYA4)Dans cet épisode de la série primée "A youth dialogue on keeping the future human", Svenia Busson s'entretient avec trois élèves français : Alaïs (11 ans), Sarah-Léa (15 ans) et Arthur (16 ans). Alors que beaucoup craignent une IA dangereuse ou "méchante", ces jeunes redoutent quelque chose de plus subtil : qu'elle nous rende inutiles.Ensemble, ils débattent du "problème du plateau d'argent" — l'idée que si

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