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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

The Great Simplification is a podcast that explores the systems science underpinning the human predicament. Through conversations with experts and leaders hosted by Dr. Nate Hagens, we explore topics spanning ecology, economics, energy, geopolitics, human behavior, and monetary/financial systems. Our goal is to provide a simple educational resource for the complex energetic, physical, and social constraints ahead, and to inspire people to play a role in our collective future. Ultimately, we aim to

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11:35

"Thank You for Ruining My Life" | Frankly 80

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/12/13

(Recorded December 5, 2024) It’s not everyday that a stranger thanks you for ‘ruining their life’. In this heartfelt Frankly, Nate reflects on a powerful encounter with a venture capitalist whose life was upended - and ultimately enriched - after immersing himself in the full content of The Great Simplification podcast. This man’s journey from techno-optimism to a deeper understanding of the limits of infinite growth on a finite planet shines a light on the purpose of this channel: to inspire and

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47:16

Shutting Off The Plastic Tap: A Global Treaty To...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/12/08

(Conversation recorded on December 2nd, 2024) One of the central ecological challenges of our time is addressing the plastic and petrochemical pollution that has exploded over the past several decades. This global issue will require the cooperation of all nations. But based on the disintegration of UN negotiations for a treaty on plastic pollution last Sunday, this is easier said than done. In this special episode, Nate is joined by toxicologist Jane Muncke, who provides an in-depth analysis

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20:10

The Biggest Takeaways from the Logic of the...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/12/06

(Recorded November 26, 2024) As we piece together the different facets of our reality, the systems synthesis which emerges confronts us with some uncomfortable truths. These are the advanced inferences rooted in the logic of The Great Simplification. They have important implications for our expectations about the future and how we should respond in the present. In this Frankly, Nate revisits some key messages from this channel and delves into some of the more challenging takeaways. The logic of

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01:11:32

Energy Crises & Global Power Shifts: The Struggle for...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/11/27

(Conversation recorded on November 11th, 2024, prior to a ceasefire declared between Israel and Lebanon on November 27th, 2024) If you’ve followed TGS for some time, you’ve heard Nate speak about The 5 Horsemen – the biggest risks for humans and civilization in the coming decade. Today’s episode delves into one of the most rapidly escalating: geopolitics. Today, Nate is joined by Political Economy Professor Helen Thompson to explore the evolving understanding of energy's role in international

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50:41

Future Council: How Children are Responding to our...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/11/24

(Conversation recorded on September 24th, 2024) It is frequently true that those who will inherit the greatest consequences of our climate crisis – today’s youth – have the least voice in shaping what happens next. But if given a seat at the table, what would these children have to say about creating a more sustainable path forward? In this Reality Roundtable, Nate sits down with documentarian Damon Gameau and three young activists featured in his documentary film The Future Council, to discuss

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09:50

7 Philosophies on the Future | Frankly 77

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/11/22

(Recorded November 12, 2024) In last week’s Frankly, Nate shared his thoughts on some of the polarities we’ll need to harmonize as we journey towards a more uncertain world. As the holidays approach for many, we will face these “polarities” head-on in relationships with family, friends, and neighbors. How could imagining the different perspectives of others allow us to have more meaningful and empathic conversations about the future? In today’s Frankly, Nate highlights seven views of the future and

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01:29:27

Regenerative Economics: New Economic Paradigms,...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/11/06

(Conversation recorded on October 10th, 2024) Our modern economic system is designed to maximize financial capital, viewing money as though it were wealth itself. But what would happen if we viewed wealth more holistically, taking into account our natural, social, cultural, and human capital, too? In this conversation, Nate is joined by unconventional economist John Fullerton to discuss the principles of regenerative economics and the need for shifts in our economic paradigms from reductionist

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19:50

Somebody's Gonna Win | Frankly 75

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/11/01

(Recorded October 27, 2024) Somebody is going to win the upcoming US election. In a society deeply divided along partisan lines, individual identities and hopes/fears for the future may seem bound to a single choice: Republican or Democrat. Who wins is important, but if we take a step back and look beyond the short-term fervor of election politics, it becomes clear that what ultimately matters isn’t which person wins but how we - as individuals and as communities - respond. In the long run, most

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57:29

Preserving Democracy: A Call for Civility with...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/10/30

(Conversation recorded on October 17th, 2024) As the trust in the U.S. presidential election process continues to be in question, alongside growing polarization and dwindling good-faith conversations, the precarity of our democratic systems is becoming increasingly worrisome. Amongst the rising tensions, calls for civility are sorely needed – regardless of who wins. In this conversation, Nate is joined by former Congressman Richard Gephardt to discuss the importance of democracy as a system of

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01:15:22

The Global Stakes of the U.S. Election: Debt, The...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/10/27

(Conversation recorded on October 16th, 2024) Ahead of the U.S. Presidential Election between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, both of whom have distinct monetary and fiscal policies, there is much debate on the potential systemic consequences for the global economy. What is the current status of the United States in the socio-political landscape, and how might trends in energy, commodities, and geopolitical tension affect the actions and capabilities of the next U.S. presidential administration

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01:37:01

The Foundational Challenge: Stewardship,...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/10/23

(Conversation recorded on October 3rd, 2024) While humans, like all animals, are subject to certain fundamental realities, we also possess the unique ability to shape the world around us through physical infrastructure, laws and institutions, and our economic and social systems. And yet, it’s important to remember that, as today’s guest would say, what we design designs us back. In short, the systems and structures we build influence our cultures, values, and identities. Today, Nate is joined by

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01:37:09

Ecological Awakening: A Path Toward Holistic...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/10/16

(Conversation recorded on September 16th, 2024) Where have all the elders gone? As the world grapples with its unfolding economic and energy crises, it can often feel like we lack capable guides to help our societies navigate these transitions. How can we cultivate ourselves as individuals to become balanced, true adults who are fully equipped to contribute to our communities, the planet, and the massive changes ahead? In this episode, Nate is joined by eco-depth psychologist Bill Plotkin to

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01:31:12

Tales from the Carbon Pulse | Reality Roundtable 11

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/10/06

(Conversation recorded on August 6th, 2024) The damaging effects of humanity’s disconnected relationship to Earth’s ecosystems are broad and deep. Yet, despite targeted efforts to address these issues and mitigate risks, our insatiable appetite for fossil hydrocarbons continues to grow at an alarming rate. What will it take to reframe our relationship with nature to move forward in a symbiotic, life-supporting path? In this episode, Nate is joined by longtime colleagues Tom Murphy and D.J

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16:43

The Superorganism and the Self | Frankly 73

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/10/04

(Recorded September 30, 2024) Nate’s work tends to focus on systems-level analysis of the current (and future) global macro/ecological situation. But peering beneath the surface of that system lies the deeply personal, emotional experiences of individuals, locally and around the world. In today’s Frankly, Nate navigates the delicate balance between systems thinking and the profound emotional weight of the realities we face. The Superorganism and the Self coexist in a recursive dance: while the

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01:18:17

Rooted in Connection: Exploring the Hidden Ties in...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/10/02

(Conversation recorded on August 13th, 2024) Humanity’s relationship with Earth’s forests is long and complex. While some societies have preserved their understanding of the intricate connections within woodland ecosystems, others have lost sight of their importance as modern life has deepened the disconnect between humans and nature. How is science helping our modern, industrial culture reconnect with the intricate relationships that build Earth’s invaluable forests? In this episode, Nate

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11:48

What if Climate Change Was a Hoax? | Frankly 72

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/09/27

(Recorded September 22, 2024) 14.8% of Americans do not believe in climate change. Recently, a study mapping a 485-million-year history of Earth’s temperature and CO2 levels has been misinterpreted by some who downplay urgent climate concerns. Their argument suggests that, since the Earth has experienced much higher temperatures and CO2 concentrations in the past, the current rise of a few degrees won’t significantly affect us - and that climate concerns are being over exaggerated What if climate

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10:11

Weakest Links: Depletion, Supply Chains, and Trust |...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/09/20

(Recorded September 18 2024) Over past decades, abundance and peace have become the prevailing narratives in modern societies. The reality, as usual, is both more nuanced and more complex. Today, our financial and material wealth exists in parallel with declines in natural and social capital. Similarly, recent decades have caused us to become uber dependent on global ‘just-in-time’ supply chains. The unexpected exploding pager incident in Lebanon earlier this week throws the durability of, and

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01:41:16

Global Heating 101: Rapid-Fire Answers to the Biggest...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/09/18

(Conversation recorded on July 30th, 2024) The science surrounding our planet’s dynamic and complex climate can be difficult to understand, and perhaps even more challenging to decipher what the actual realities and trajectories are among so much media coverage. Yet the study of Earth’s systems has been ongoing for decades, with a majority of scientists reaching a consensus on the realities of human-driven global heating. In this episode, ocean and climate physicist Stefan Rahmstorf joins Nate

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50:55

U.S. Full Spectrum Dominance: Nuclear Risks and The...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/09/11

(Conversation recorded on September 3rd, 2024) As the United States continues to play a major role in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, the risk of a direct engagement, possibly leading to a nuclear exchange, may now be higher than ever. In this episode, Nate is joined by Professor Jeffrey Sachs to discuss the escalating tensions between the United States and other world powers - and whether there are possible avenues towards a more peaceful world order. Has the U.S. taken on the

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01:03:24

The Physics of Connection: Understanding...

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens ·

2024/08/28

(Conversation recorded on May 8th, 2024) Without a systems lens, the full reality of the human predicament will never be understood. It is only when we adopt this kind of holistic, wide-boundary thinking that we are able to see the complexity and nuance of how the biosphere, geopolitics, economics, energy, and many other systems interplay with and influence one another. But historically, the scientific community didn’t utilize the power of systems thinking until a few groundbreaking individuals

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