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Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee

I & A Publishing

This is a series of newly digitized talks by spiritual teacher, Lola McDowell Lee, spanning two decades—from the early Seventies through the Nineties.Lola was a Zen Roshi whose Rinzai lineage included Doctor Henry Platov and renowned Zen master, Shigetsu Sasaki. Lola was a religious scholar as well as an ordained Christian minister.While the talks are focused mainly on Zen and Buddhism, Lola drew on many spiritual traditions—including those of Jesus, Plato, Lao-Tzu, the Hindu Vedas, Meister Eckhart

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47:45

Words can’t teach how to practice. Like swimming, we...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/12/06

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, discusses how words can’t teach how to practice or how to wake up. Just like the wheelwright can’t teach how to make a wheel. Too much force and it weakens. Too little and it weakens. But how does he teach that? One has to do it. Like swimming. To learn it you need to do it. Zen practice is the same way. Chuang Tzu, the master of the absurd’s mysterious tale of putting seven holes in Chaos, and then it disappeared.The tale of the talking horse, who was the ghost of a

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53:59

Lola recounts the surprising tale of the Sufi mystic...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/11/18

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, explains how if we are ruled from without, we are slaves. If we are ruled from within, we are still enslaved.Short review of recent sesshin.Lola shares the amusing tale of the teacher's visit to an archery target practice.When you’re always doing, disciplining yourself, there is a conflict. Beyond discipline is stillness.We receive teachings at the level we need them. Consciousness has the body. Not the other way around.Lola recounts the tale of the Sufi mystic who is

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43:32

The Paramitas - 1. Giving 2. Observing precepts 3....

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2024/11/08

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, suggests you look at your life as a story. Is there anything you would change? Though this life is not perfect, you’re probably reasonably comfortable living on this shore. Change is scary.While many of us are part of a practice group, we really each travel alone on this path. The truth is inside of us. We can’t find it together outside somewhere.For your travel on this path you have provisions. In Buddhism, they are called the Paramitas, or perfections.Giving. This is

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52:40

Pranyaparamita, or “the perfection of transcendental...

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2024/11/02

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, explores the possible meanings of several Buddhist and Christian concepts:• Pranyaparamita, or “the perfection of transcendental wisdom.”• Sunyata, or the emptiness that emptiness constitutes ultimate reality. Not adding, but taking away.• Avataṃsaka Sūtra, which comprehensively describes the powers of meditation and emptiness.• Anapanasati - awareness of that before you, of your breath.• Or when Jesus says to Nicodemus: “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit,

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58:27

The similarities between Hassidic Judaism and...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/10/08

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, discusses the similarities between Hasidic Judaism and Buddhism.Many religions are more emotional. Zen practitioners are often intellectual. The similarities between Hasidic Judaism and Buddhism.Also, the tale of two men who travel during a dark night. Only one has a lantern. When their paths split, the man without the lantern must grope along in the darkness. That is not unlike being in life without the presence of your teaching. You must learn to be a light unto

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51:44

Make the smallest distinction and heaven and earth...

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2024/09/29

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, explores the notion of preferences. As the Third Chinese Patriarch of Zen put it: when love and hate are both absent, everything becomes clear and undisguised. Make the smallest distinction, however, and heaven and earth are set infinitely apart. If you wish to see the truth, then hold no opinions for, or against, anything.That is the choice-less reality, true stability. When you make a distinction, you are divided within yourself. The real does not change—only what you

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53:07

A monk asked his teacher, "I am pecking from inside...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/09/23

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, explains that when most of us listen to a teacher talk, what we hear is determined by our conditioning. When one talks to God in his thoughts, he is not talking to God. To truly practice, one must be wholly sincere and not deceive oneself.A monk came to a Zen Master and asked, ”What if you meet up with someone who is deaf, dumb, and blind?” Also, if the aim of a Zen master is to save innumerable beings, how does one explain the behavior of a hermit master?A monk asked

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52:52

First is learning, called hearing. Then approaching....

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2024/09/19

During this talk, Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, has a bad cough, which she lightheartedly uses in her discussion about how to hear and how to listen. To listen like a tape recorder, without thinking. Lola walks us through a quick history of philosophical thinking, from the Ionians (Thales thought the basic entity was water) to Pythagoras to Aristotle and beyond. To discipline oneself in learning is called hearing. Once you’re full of learning, you begin what is called approaching. Then beyond both

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51:07

As illusions drop, as attitudes drop, how relaxing it...

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2024/09/12

You are born into pleasure and pain, and eventually emotions develop. Then centuries of conditioning. From your parents, from your culture. How many personalities and faces do you have? All creating contradictions in you. But if you dig down, there is unity—an undivided, centered individual. Most important: do not deceive yourself. Sit. Look into yourself and the truth will reveal itself to you. As illusions drop, as attitudes drop, how relaxing it is to be at ease with yourself. What could be more

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48:52

The depth in saying “I don’t know.” Mystica...

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2024/09/03

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, discusses Mystica Theologica by St Dionysias. He said religious experience can’t be described. Like music: as much as you might name notes, no description is adequate to explain what music really is. So it is with religious experience. Dionysias called it “agnosia” or unknowing. There is a depth in saying “I don’t know.” Even Socrates said the only thing he knows is that he knows nothing. The atheist who says he knows there is no God… does not speak from experience. He

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54:44

Zen masters never tell the truth. July 15, 1985

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2024/08/26

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, recounts the tale of Zen Master Hogen who studied with Keishin Zenji. Once Keishin Zenji asked him, 'Joza, where do you go?' “Hogen answered, 'I am making pilgrimage aimlessly." Lola also shares the story of the non-believer who falls off a cliff and dangles by a small twig. He begs God to help him. "But I thought you didn’t believe in me,” says God. The non-believer says, “Okay, I do now. Please save me." So God answers, “Okay, let go of the twig and I will save you.”

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59:57

"The mind dwells in the cave of the heart. He who...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/08/15

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, explains how you can ask questions about the meaning of life all day long. But who is the questioner? Usually we take the wrong approach to these questions. The questions and the answers are thoughts—or objects. They are not reality. If you have a deluded mind, how are you supposed to use it in meditation? You must set it aside. When silence is present, where are you? When you aren’t thinking, are you a man or a woman? Tall or short?The real question is “What is the

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39:25

The mightiest fighting rooster does not crow about...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/08/13

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, shares the teachings of Lao Tzu. He was not a brave man. Or a coward. Courage does not play a role in the sage. The mightiest fighting rooster does not crow about his might. True confidence does not brag. If you meet a sage on the road, how do you greet him? Meditation is like a coiled spring. You push, push, push it down… then release. Jun 24, 1984

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51:19

When you’re silent, there is one mind. When you’re...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/08/06

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, explains how a mirror reflects everything before it. It reflects young you when you’re young. It reflects old you when you’re old. But the mirror isn’t old or young. It is uncontaminated. The same consciousness is watching from inside you when you’re young, when you’re middle aged and when you’re old. But that Witness isn’t young or middle aged or old. Just like the mirror, your consciousness doesn’t change. Just the content is different. We all have heard teachings

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52:17

Examine your past so it doesn’t govern you. The past...

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2024/07/30

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, explains how when you’re happy, sad, pleased, unpleased—it’s all in your periphery. It is not really you. When you’re happy, sad, pleased, displeased—it’s all in your periphery. It is not really you. Do not deceive yourself with your own attitudes. Plastic flowers do not grow. Plastic personas do not grow. But you can. Your appearances give you respectability but they do not give you contentment. Examine your past so it doesn’t govern you. The past is dead. Stop living

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51:37

What must wake up in you for you to be awake? Oct 29,...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/07/25

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, explores the wisdom of Zen Master Ikkyu. What must wake up in you for you to be awake? Where do you go when you’re in a deep sleep? Buddhism is a religion of the individual. We become individually free. Teaching about awakened self is like selling water by the river. We spend our lives trying to make our fantasies a reality. Assuming responsibility for one’s spiritual life. Who owns your karma? Oct 29, 1989

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58:13

Once we understand we are not the masters of our...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/07/15

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, recounts tales of Master Fugai. Lola gives a detailed explanation of meditation. How the word meditation, historically, has been thought to mean thinking, pondering. But in Zen it’s just the opposite. In Zen meditation you sit, and can watch your thoughts go by, but you do not get swept up by them. If you observe closely you’ll start to see that your thoughts create a circular pattern… over and over, and at the center of this circle is a point with which you are

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58:42

The tale of the visitor who asked Zen master Bankei...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/07/11

Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, discusses how we’re all waiting for the most extraordinary teacher. We want only the best. The tale of the visitor who asked Zen master Bankei what miracles he could perform. His answer is lovely Zen. Lola lso, understanding the concept of “don’t know.” It’s very difficult. We all prefer to be clever, which obscures our original mind. If you recognize the original mind, will you reincarnate? Bunka says it won’t matter to you. That is the interest of the ego. Listen to

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50:50

Easter of 1985 - What Zen practitioners can learn...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/07/02

Zen Roshi and ordained Christian minister, Lola McDowell Lee, gives this talk during Easter of 1985. She explores the Resurrection of Christ. You can experience the Resurrection yourself. Your deathless existence is within you. It is the Godseed. The tale of the king who leaves his three sons each a bag of seed and asks them to best preserve them in his absence. The seed must die in order to grow. The tale of a man walking peacefully among the throngs racing through Pompeii during the volcanic

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49:11

Second in a series about using Transactional Analysis...

Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee ·

2024/06/24

Zen Roshi, Lola McDoweel Lee, explains how we all call ourselves an I, but there is only one—which everyone appropriates for themselves. Eventually our thoughts, voices, identifications eclipse the I. We adopt styles from lots of people—actors, ministers, anyone who appeals to us. The second in a series about the Transactional Analysis approach of Child, Parent, Adult. Child enjoys the moment through feeling, often irrationally. The Parental Voice then comes in to caution the child. The Adult brings

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