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21.FIVE - Professional Pilots Podcast

A podcast for Professional Pilots, by Professional Pilots. Join hosts Dylan and Max, both professional pilots with backgrounds in Flight Instructing, Airlines, and Business Aviation, on their quest to improve as travelers, pilots, and professionals. Expect to find interesting conversations with industry experts in a variety of aviation fields, thought-provoking discussions on hot topics, and hilarious stories from the (sometimes) wild aviation industry. Whether you’re corporate, airline, charter,

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162. Can You Really Plan for an Unplannable Career?

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2025/03/25

Max shares a wild story involving VFR ops in a jet and a last-minute divert to Deer Valley when Scottsdale Tower ghosted them. We cover the final chapter of Hard Landing in the book club and reflect on takeaways from the book. In the mailbag, we talk about MU-2s doing angel work, the A&P to pilot career path, and the latest 737 LRD drama. Flight Advice: Should I keep my survey job or finish my CFI? Oh, and we may have created a secret pilot Freemason society while we were at it. More info on the

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01:46:43

161. Is This the Craziest Warbird Recovery Attempt Ever?

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2025/03/18

In 1995, a team of aviation cowboys set out on a mission that sounds too crazy to be real: fly a WWII B-29 bomber out of the Arctic after 50 years of abandonment. But as guest Vernon Rich tells us, things did not go as planned. From rigging up fuel pumps with trash equipment to landing a Caribou with propane-inflated tires, this story has it all—engineering ingenuity, brutal cold, and a heartbreaking ending. Strap in for one of the wildest aircraft recovery stories ever attempted. Watch the

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01:03:29

160. Want to Fly Biz Jets After Airline Retirement?...

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2025/03/11

Dylan and Max kick things off with a deep dive into airline wifi, airport food inflation, and Dylan’s latest experiment—testing the Starlink Mini in the cockpit. Max recounts his wild adventure ferrying a Carbon Cub across the country (spoiler: electrical gremlins strike). The mailbag is packed with listener updates and career insights, while Flight Advice gets spicy with a retired airline pilot looking to pick up business jet contract work. Spoiler: It’s not as easy as he thinks. Show Notes 0:00

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01:10:28

158. What’s Going on with All These Aviation Accidents?

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2025/02/25

Dylan and Max return after a wild week filled with airline rumors, aviation history, and some sobering accident reports. They break down the bizarre (and quickly debunked) Southwest-JetBlue merger rumor and share their experience chasing the final landing of the last Martin Mars flying boat. The guys also discuss the recent streak of high-profile aviation accidents and their impact on the industry. Hard Landing Book Club Chapter 17: United searches for a new CEO. In the Flight Advice segment, a

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155. The Air National Guard: Is This the ultimate...

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2025/01/28

Ever wondered what it’s like flying for the Air National Guard? In this episode, Ben joins Dylan and Max to share his journey from high school aviation dreams to the cockpit of a KC-135. We break down the steps to becoming a Guard pilot, how to balance it with a civilian flying career, and why the Guard might be the ultimate flexible gig for pilots. Plus, insider tips on navigating deployments, training, and building a career that works for you. Connect with Ben on LinkedIn Show Notes 0:00 Intro

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153. From Garage Invention to Aviation Must-Have: The...

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2025/01/14

We’re joined by Megan Tuttle and Jordan Thieme from AeroTow, part of Amigo Mobility International, to dive into their innovative aircraft tugs. From humble beginnings in a Wisconsin garage to creating tugs that save your back (and your time), their story is as compelling as their products. Hear how they’re redefining aircraft handling for pilots, all while keeping it in the family. Plus, Max shares how AeroTow’s T1 has already transformed his hangar life! Learn more about AeroTow's family of

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01:32:44

152. 2025 Pilot Hiring: What's Happening And What...

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2025/01/07

James Onieal joins Dylan and Max to unpack the turbulent landscape of pilot hiring in 2025. From overhiring at the majors to regional pilots struggling to stand out, James offers no-nonsense advice on how to stay competitive. Whether you’re a CFI with big dreams or a seasoned military pilot planning your exit, this episode is packed with actionable insights for navigating the year ahead. Tune in for a mix of hard truths, strategies, and a few good laughs! Get in touch with James Onieal Show Notes

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01:03:53

151. From Cargo to Carry-Ons: Flying ACMI in a 747...

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2024/12/17

In this episode, we chat with 747 captain and Paradox Aviation Luggage co-founder, Derrek Khajavi. He gives us the inside scoop on ACMI flying, what it’s like hauling everything from lithium batteries to cows, and why he’s clinging to the 747 throttles for life. Plus, we dive into his innovative luggage company and how he’s solving everyday pilot problems, one aluminum bag at a time. Check out Paradox Aviation's Luggage Show Notes 3:07 All About ACMI 11:41 The 747 & Getting the Position 20:54

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01:13:39

149. What’s the Buzz in BizAv? Market Update with Brooks

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2024/12/03

Q4 is crunch time in the business aviation world, and Brooks from Vaerus Jet Sales is back to explain why. From analyzing tax incentives like bonus depreciation to discussing market trends on popular airframes, Brooks shares his insights on what’s hot (and not) in bizjet sales. He even gives us a peek into his DC-3 adventures and drops some hard truths about insurance and personal use compliance. If you're a pro pilot or a bizav enthusiast, you don't want to miss this one! VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE,

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148. Fuel Leaks, Flight Sims, and Airline...

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2024/11/26

This week, Dylan and Max tackle the highs and lows of aviation life, from Max’s fuel leak woes to a surprising guest appearance reviewing the new Microsoft Flight Simulator. In the Mailbag, listeners share experiences from the world of air ambulance flying and tips for mastering cockpit emergencies. Flight Advice takes on a big question for aspiring airline pilots: should you intern with a major airline or focus on building hours? Show Notes 0:00 Realistic Day in the Life 8:14 Microsoft Flight Sim

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01:29:41

144. 707s, NDBs, and Impossible Interviews (Mailbag &...

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2024/10/29

In this episode, Dylan and Max reminisce about the grueling interview days at American Eagle, where 500 hours landed you in the 707 sim. They compare corporate and airline training styles, from smoke-filled cockpit drills to NDB approaches and trust falls. Mailbag: Reserve Flying, Setting the record straight on the United 570, and more on the Delta sidestep. Flight Advice: A tense relationship with a chief pilot after securing a better compensation package. Show Notes 0:00 Intro & Hot Air Balloons

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143. Can Light Sport Training Save You Big Bucks?

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2024/10/22

In this episode, Dylan and Max sit down with Kaity (aka Pilot Kaity) to explore her unconventional journey through light sport flight training. Kaity shares how she found a unique path that kept her out of debt and got her into the cockpit faster than most. Plus, Kaity drops some career advice on balancing cost-saving hacks with quality training. Follow Kaity on Instagram | YouTube Show Notes 0:00 Intro 6:30 Kaity’s Background 16:01 Instructing Light Sport 22:32 Pilot Path Plans 37:46 Transition to

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01:25:05

142. What happens when pilots strike?

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2024/10/08

In this episode, Dylan shares his recent experience flying Southwest and reflects on the airline’s unique in-flight culture. The guys also discuss the lessons from United’s pilot strike and its impact on the industry as recounted in Hard Landing. The Mailbag includes a listener’s take on sidestep maneuvers and the challenges of operational compliance. For Flight Advice, a listener asks whether it’s better to go Fractional, Regional, or ULCC after flight instructing. 0:00 Intro 2:48 Southwest

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01:02:44

141. Thriving in Tough Times w/ James Onieal

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2024/10/01

In this episode, Dylan and Max welcome back career expert James Onieal from Raven Career Development to discuss the state of the aviation industry and how pilots can navigate these turbulent times. From ULCC pilots feeling stuck to legacies that aren’t hiring as quickly, James dives deep into how pilots can strategize their next move. If you’re wondering whether it’s time to jump ship or stay put, this episode is for you. Get in touch with James Onieal (and tell him you heard him on the 21Five

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01:07:55

140. Ever Been Stuck with a Boring Co-Pilot?

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2024/09/24

Dylan and Max reflect on the surprising amount of time pilots spend together, from shared meals to long-haul convos in the cockpit. We cover Chapter 9 of Hard Landing in the book club. A listener writes in about a vibrating seat mystery on a recent 787 flight. And in Flight Advice, the hosts help a commuting pilot navigate the unwritten rules of jump seat etiquette, offering tips on how to avoid awkward situations while traveling in uniform. Show Notes 0:00 Intro 8:03 Story Time with Max 22:34 Hard

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01:12:05

139 What Does It Take to Lead 11,000 Pilots? w/ SWAPA...

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2024/09/17

In this episode, Dylan and Max sit down with Casey Murray, President of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA), to discuss the challenges and triumphs of leading 10,000 pilots. From contract negotiations to managing pilot expectations, Casey sheds light on what it takes to keep a union strong and independent. Plus, we dive into the flexibility pilots enjoy at Southwest and what’s next for the airline. Show Notes 0:00 Intro 2:12 Union Basics 10:26 Professional Standards & Negotiations

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01:07:44

138. Feeling Stalled Out as a CFI? Here's How to...

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2024/09/10

In this episode, Dylan and Max dive into the surprising results from the 2024 AIN product survey, revealing a major shake-up in aircraft rankings—Bombardier is on top, while Gulfstream slips. The mailbag features a listener sharing their experiences with tricky aircraft maintenance, sparking a hilarious yet insightful discussion on handling service centers. In the Flight Advice segment, Dylan and Max advise a low-time CFI feeling overwhelmed by professional pilot knowledge. They suggest starting

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136. The Misadventures of Max plus Mailbag and Flight...

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2024/08/20

They guys catch up on their latest adventures. Book Club: Hard Landing Chapter 7. In this episode’s mailbag, they discuss listener feedback on braking roll-aboards and tough non-rev adventures. Finally, in Flight Advice, they dig into the dilemma of choosing between a tough commute at a struggling ULCC or trying out the cargo life, all while aiming for that elusive legacy carrier job. Show Notes 0:00 Intro & Story Time with Max 16:29 Hard Landing Book Club: Chapter 7 27:10 Reviews 29:45 Mailbag

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135. INTL Ops Update: GPS Spoofing and New Clearance...

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2024/08/06

In this episode, Dylan and Max are joined by Greg from Advanced Air Crew Academy to discuss the latest updates in international operations. They dive into changes in oceanic clearance procedures, the impact of GPS spoofing, and essential tips for flying internationally. Check out Advanced Aircrew Academy's International Training Modules. OpsGroup GPS Spoofing Working Group Show Notes 0:00 Intro 3:46 International Clearance Procedures 11:51 GPS Spoofing 20:27 Electronic Plotting & SAFA Inspections

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01:04:09

134. Should I leave my comfortable job to fly the 747?

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2024/07/23

In this episode, Dylan and Max dive into the bizarre trend of passengers "raw dogging" flights and wonder what the pilot equivalent would be. Then the guys dive into Chapter 6 of Hard Landing. The Mailbag segment features listener reviews and heartfelt stories, while Flight Advice tackles a career decision about flying the 747 versus staying at a regional airline. Show Notes 0:00 Intro & Raw Dogging Flights 10:59 Hard Landing Book Club: Chapter 6 23:50 Reviews and Comments 26:04 Mailbag & Furlough

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