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Refin" It Up

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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02:08:19

Somebody Call Your Mama

Refin" It Up ·

2025/01/29

Somebody call your mama and tell her that Ernest “The Cat” Miller is on this week’s episode talking shop with us. The Cat talks about his time with WCW and how Eric Bischoff got him into professional wrestling; leaving martial arts behind temporarly. As he made his way through WCW he became popular and more popular; so much to the point when WWE called years later asking him to come to the company. As one of Vince McMahons favorites The Cat became a fan favorite quickly as well in the WWE.

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02:16:52

The Ref Crew with Marty Elias

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2025/01/22

The refs room is full this week as we welcome our brother in stripes Marty Elias to the show. Brian, Jimmy, Daniel, and Marty talk about the current crop of wrestling referees and what it takes to be a good referee. Marty then goes in to detail about the experience he had working Undertaker versus Shawn Michaels at Wrestle Mania 25. In addition to all this and some great stories; Brian, Daniel, and Jimmy talk about the TNA and WWE partnership as well as some of our thoughts on TNA Genesis from

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02:14:30

The Brian Myers System

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2025/01/15

We welcome the most professional wrestler Brian Myers to the show. The former WWE and TNA Tag Team Champion sits down with us to talk chop about all the many different things he has going on. From working at TNA to training the up and coming wrestlers at Create A Pro to creating some great content on the Major Wrestling Figure Podcast; Brian has certainly made a name for himself. Lastly, Brian finally speaks about what is to come from TNA Wrestling and what a great atmosphere it is. Refin It Up

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02:19:40

First Of The Year Preview

Refin" It Up ·

2025/01/08

In our first episode of 2025 we welcome TNA/OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer as an addition to the show. This week we speak about some of the latest news in the pro wrestling world. We also bring back the popular segment “What If” to the show this week to discuss WCW, ECW, and WWE. We lastly answer your questions that you sent in to us!!!Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG

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01:25:28

Refin Rewind: Lance Storm

Refin" It Up ·

2025/01/01

This week we hit the rewind button and take you back to our episode we had with Lance Storm from September of this year. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING.

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02:25:16

In The Clutch With Sarge

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2024/12/24

We get in line this week and salute our guest Sergent Slaughter. The WWE Hall of Fame joins Brian and Jimmy this week to talk about his career. Sarge talks about facing men like Iron Sheik and Pat Patterson in some of the most iconic matches in wrestling history. Furthermore, Sarge goes into great detail on his relationship with Vince McMahon. Lastly, Sarge talks about turning heel and facing Hulk Hogan as an Iraqi sympathizer. All this and so much more this week!!!Refin It Up Social

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02:09:20

The Art of Arda

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2024/12/19

This week’s show is on ice as we welcome from the NHL on ESPN and former WWE Television host, Arda Ocal, to the show this week. Arda’s two passions have always been wrestling and hockey which he goes into detail with Brian and Jimmy. While working on television in Canada, Arda pitched an idea for a post-wrestling show on television. Little did Arda know that the network loved the idea, and then he began to look for hosts. He went directly to Jimmy, and they began a friendship that continues to

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01:45:37

Tackling The Biz

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2024/12/11

We tackle the business this week when Brian and Jimmy break down some of the top wrestling news this week. The passion Brian and Jimmy have for the business shows when they go deep into the state of the referees in AEW in of Refin Review. This weekend is busy for wrestling as WWE presents Saturday Nights Main Event and TNA present Final Resolution; we talk about what we may or may not see. All this and so much more this week!!!Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE and IG

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02:09:17

A Little Drama with The Drama King

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2024/12/04

It’s all drama this week as we welcome “Drama King” Matthew Rehwoldt to the show. As the color commentator for TNA Wrestling Matthew is teamed with Tom Hannifan and he has done alot for him both at TNA and when they were together at WWE. The transition from an in ring talent to the commentary isn’t something many people can do but Matthew took the opportunity and ran with, and has flourished at it. Matthew breaks down what it took for him to make that transition as well as how much work goes into

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02:00:11

The Cash Keeps Flowing

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2024/11/27

Its time to push all your chips in to the middle and cash out you winnings, because we welcome in the returning Cash Flo to the show this week. Many things have changed since the last time Cash was on the show just after the “Wrestlers” was released on Netflix. Since then Cash auditioned for and got the part as the character of “Big Foot” on the Paramount Plus hit series “Tulsa King” staring Sylvester Stallone. Cash talks about how he landed the role, working with Sylvester Stallone, and how life

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02:06:44

Busted Open: Paul the Producer

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2024/11/20

This week we give flowers to a man that deserves it; we welcome Executive Producer of Busted Open Radio on Sirius XM Paul Erlick to the show. After graduating from Temple University Paul was offered an internship at WWE that he gladly accepted; and as they say the rest is history. Over 14 years later Paul moved to Sirius XM where he began to producer the best wrestling program across the world. Lastly, Paul talks shop about some of the hosts and co hosts of Busted Open, with stories that you must

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01:53:55

A Behind The Ring General

Refin" It Up ·

2024/11/14

For over 30 years Tom Carlucci has seen alot in the wresting business. On this episode Tom talks about his time working in the WWE as a floor manager, assistant producer, and senior director. From being ringside at King of the Ring 1998 and at Survivor Series 1997 to gaining friends he had for a lifetime; the WWE meant everything to Tom. Lastly, talks candinly about being furloughed in 2020 and what it seriously took out of him. All this and so many great stories on this episode of Refin It Up.

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01:45:02

The Golden Voice

Refin" It Up ·

2024/11/06

He is the man with the golden voice and he is the pinnacle of interviews; this week we welcome Chris Van Vliet to the show. Chris started off in the backyards of Pickering, Ontario, Canada wrestling then moved quickly into the seat he is very familiar with now; the interviewer seat. We talk to Chris about his wrestling fandom growing up and what led him to have some great conversations with some of the best in wrestling. Lastly, Chris gives a peak behind the curtain on who he was surprised that

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01:44:38

Guest Stripes

Refin" It Up ·

2024/10/30

On this very special edition of the show we welcome in current Head Official from TNA, Daniel Spencer to the show as he, Brian and Jimmy talk about the busy week of professional wrestling. In addition to that we discuss some of the guest referee moments in wrestling history. This and so much more on this weeks episode. Chris Bey Go Fund Me https://www.gofundme.com/f/chris-bey-recovery-funds Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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01:57:28

The Lish Effect

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2024/10/23

This week you have to trust the system as we welcome Alisha Edwards, from TNA Wrestling to the show. Being a part of TNA for as long as Alisha has been is something she prides herself on. The locker room is a close knit family to the point that Alisha has earned the titles “Moral Officer” and “Party Mom.” Before that Alisha talks about, when she was knocked out at Emergence 2024. As scary as that was for he she is determined to get back in the ring to defend her Tag Team Titles that she holds

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01:43:15

The Battle and The Success

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2024/10/17

The new NWA Heavyweight Champion, Thom Latimer joins us this week. When he first saw a tape from Wrestle Mania 8 Thom knew he wanted to be a wrestler no matter what. Through good times and bad he made that happen and made it happen all over the world. From WWE to NXT to IMPACT and now to NWA, Thom has made his imprint on the business. With the good comes the no so good as well; Thom talks about battling his demons and how he overcame them and is now sober. Lastly, he speaks about what working in

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01:57:05

Announce, Wrestle, and Manage

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2024/10/09

Ricardo Rodriguez has see it all. He has been on the top of the mountain and at the bottom of it as well throughout his wresting career. Ricardo talks about his time in the WWE as Alberto Del Rio’s personal ring announcer and manager. The bond that they formed was unmatched. He caught the producing bug a little bit when he was in WWE and then took it to MLW where he is currently helping with their production. Furthermore, he talks about the hopes of going back to WWE; this time a little wiser

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01:57:39

Rockin Ricky Gibson

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2024/10/02

It’s time to start to rock with Ricky Gibson this week. One half of four second heat joins us to talk about he recent appearance on Smackdown with Kevin Owens and Randy Orton. However, he first starts to talk about how he maintains his love for professional wrestling. As a student of wrestling Ricky is all about learning from some of the greats of the past and tries to incorporate it in his wrestling style for himself and his tag team partner, Eddie Pearl. All this and so much more!!! Refin It

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01:59:21

Let's Get Serious: Lance Storm

Refin" It Up ·

2024/09/25

Can we get serious for a moment? Lance Storm joins the show this week to talk about his phenomenal career in WWE, WCW, and ECW. Lance talks about how the “UnAmericans” formed and you will be surprised on who played a critical role in it. As one of the best minds in all of wrestling history Lance talks about what was the pinnacle of his career in regards to work as well as exposure to the fans. Lance goes on to talk about the art of being a producer/agent in todays wrestling as well as the cross

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01:51:43

The Instigator Podcaster

Refin" It Up ·

2024/09/18

The last professional broadcaster, Sam Roberts joins us this week. Sam’s resume is long but packed with some great things. When he started as an intern with the Opie and Anthony show little did he know he would be doing what he is doing currently. Between his show on Sirius XM with Jim Norton to his successful podcast, Notsam Podcast, and his appearances in WWE; Sam has put out some fantastic content. All this and so much more!!!Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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