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Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.

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09:53

Bonus Preview: Cheryl Strayed at the Collective...

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/08/14

Bestselling author Cheryl Strayed believes that writing your truth can set you free.Today we’re sharing an excerpt from her conversation with Thomas at the upcoming Collective Trauma Summit. In it, she shares about a profound healing act that helped her process deep grief and trauma…writing. More specifically, the way that writing demands raw honesty and vulnerability, revealing our deepest truths about our human experiences.It’s also an incredibly effective way to combat the isolation and

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43:28

Francis Weller | Grief Rituals and Soul Hygiene

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/08/12

What if opening yourself to grief could actually help you feel more alive?This week, Thomas sits down with psychotherapist, writer, and soul activist Francis Weller for a powerful conversation about befriending grief, embracing healing rituals in collective spaces, and the power of the past to transform the future.It’s so common for people in pain to turn away from it, to avoid their grief and sorrow, or to think that they can muscle through in isolation. But in the deep wisdom that Francis shares

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57:06

Dr. Terry Real | Daring to Embrace Intimacy in a...

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/08/05

Have you ever pulled away from someone you love—not because you didn’t care, but because closeness felt too painful?This week, Thomas is joined by renowned couples therapy expert Dr. Terry Real for a conversation on how trauma affects our relationships with ourselves, our intimate partners, and the world at large—and how we can heal those wounds.Intimacy isn’t just something you share with other people; it’s also an authentic connection with yourself. Thomas and Terry explore how our relationships

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50:46

Bonus Replay: Andrea Gibson | Befriending Mortality

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/07/31

To honor the life of beloved poet and beautiful human being Andrea Gibson, we're sharing their episode of the podcast again. Andrea's work, energy, vulnerability, and exceptional passion for life were inspiring for all of us on the Point of Relation team, and we were so sad to hear of their recent passing. In this conversation with Thomas, Andrea speaks from the heart about courageously embracing death and grief, the spiritually transformative power of facing your mortality, the absolute necessity

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52:37

Amandine Roche | Inner Peace for Collective Healing

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/07/29

Can healing yourself really help heal the world?This week, Thomas sits down with Amandine Roche, a human rights and women’s empowerment expert with more than 20 years of experience with the United Nations and European Union. Amandine’s extensive work in conflict zones worldwide was driven by a deep, personal quest for healing from childhood trauma. But the work itself took a toll on her mental and physical health, leading her on a journey of healing that uncovered an essential core truth that she

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48:05

Dr. Judith Lewis Herman | Understanding Complex PTSD

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/07/15

“For complex PTSD, you have to establish a relationship. And only after trust has been established can you do the trauma-focused work.” This week, Thomas sits down with Dr. Judith Lewis Herman, an author and senior lecturer in psychiatry and Harvard Medical School, to explore her groundbreaking work on the psychology and social and cultural aspects of Complex PTSD, or CPTSD. Unlike the better-known diagnosis of PTSD, CPTSD arises from prolonged, repeated trauma that erodes one’s sense of self and

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23:40

Karma and the Movement of the Soul

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/07/08

Are you tired of life feeling heavy, stuck in repetitive patterns dictated by the past? This week, Thomas explores the revolutionary idea that life is a fluid, rewritable process. Discover how awakening to the Kundalini stream connects you to the ever-present flow of creation, allowing you to redefine existence by its pure presence, not a chain of cause and effect. This journey is a continuous path of refining your present experience and embracing movement as the very essence of life, transforming

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53:22

Marco Lambertini | Reconnecting With Nature…Before...

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/07/01

“Nature positive is people positive. Without harmony with nature, there won't be a bright future for people.” This week, Thomas Hübl sits down with Marco Lambertini, the Convener of the Nature Positive Initiative, to explore humanity's deep, inherent connection to nature, what’s at stake if climate destruction continues to accelerate, and what we can do to stop it. Marco’s Nature Positive movement is working on actionable measures to reverse nature loss by 2030, bringing more forests, fish, and

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33:52

Elise Loehnen | Finding Connection in Crisis and...

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/06/24

Can we approach discomfort and tension as opportunities for growth? Can humanity mature beyond divisive conflict? This week, Thomas is joined by much loved returning guest, NYT bestselling author, and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, Elise Loehnen, to hash out the concerning fragmentation that feels inescapable right now and explore what we can do to combat it. As we face past and current collective traumas, massive information overload, and current events that overwhelm our nervous

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14:33

BONUS: The Mysticism of Space

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/06/19

Thomas explores the foundational spiritual building blocks of life, with a particular focus on the concept of space. More than just a void that we occupy physically, space is a key element of life that we co-create. And we need space—for reflection, digestion, integration, and nervous system regulation. Get a bigger picture perspective on your spiritual journey and learn essential tools for connecting to your inner wisdom, resilience, compassion, and intelligence. ✨ Click here to watch the video

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51:53

Dr. Stephen Porges | Safety, Connection, and...

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/06/17

What is Polyvagal Theory and how does it explain the science of feelings? This week, Thomas sits down with Dr. Stephen Porges, a professor, author, and the originator of Polyvagal Theory. Dr. Porges’ theory offers radical yet practical methods for calming our physical (or “biobehavioral”) states so that our mind can follow suit. Traditionally, the opposite approach has been the norm, but research increasingly indicates that the body should lead the charge. In this conversation, it’s made clear that

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25:45

Embodying the Light of the Soul

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/06/10

“The person doesn't have a soul, the soul has a person.” This week, Thomas goes deep in a spiritual teaching that explores the essence of the soul—an energy field that enfolds our consciousness and our life and is fundamentally connected to the collective and the planet. Through embodied spiritual practice, we can become spacious enough to let in divine light, ground it in the physical world, and open ourselves to subtle capacities and deeper sensing. Using these practices, we also become more

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49:06

Dr. Roger Walsh | Attuning to Our Inner Wisdom

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/06/03

Can humanity’s ethical and spiritual maturity catch up to our technological progress? Or will this gap in development lead to catastrophe? To explore our collective path forward, Thomas sits down with Dr. Roger Walsh, a Professor of Psychiatry, Philosophy, and Anthropology, and the host of the Deep Transformation podcast. Their conversation mines the depths of our inner worlds, finding hope in the idea that kindness, generosity, and altruism are more inherent and natural to humans than selfishness,

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46:04

Kosha Joubert | Global Social Witnessing

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/05/27

What if there was a practice that helped us collectively witness and digest world events without becoming overwhelmed, indifferent, or numb? What if this practice could lead to new levels of collective healing? Thomas sits down with Kosha Joubert to discuss this revolutionary practice, called Global Social Witnessing. Kosha is the CEO of the Pocket Project, a non-profit organization co-founded by Thomas that’s dedicated to growing a culture of trauma-informed care. Global Social Witnessing addresses

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15:32

BONUS: Connecting to the Heart

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/05/22

In this teaching, Thomas Hubl focuses on the heart as not just a physical organ but a central hub for emotional maturity, spiritual development, mind-body integration, and connection to universal intelligence. He offers a guided contemplative practice to lead you into the depth of your heart space so that you can listen deeper to your own truths, integrate mind and body, become a deeper listener for others, and better regulate your nervous system. Click here to watch the video version of this

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53:32

Lama Rod Owens | Collective Liberation and Spiritual...

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/05/20

Can we metabolize our pain to create an entry point into liberation? How can spirituality support us in this process? This week, Thomas sits down with Buddhist minister, author, and activist Lama Rod Owens to share visions for collective liberation, the importance of reconnecting with Indigenous worldviews, sacred ecology, and unseen worlds, and strategies to overcome hopelessness and despair as we work to dismantle harmful systems. They explore the intersection of individual and collective trauma,

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54:47

Dr. MaryCatherine McDonald | Finding Joy After Pain

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/05/13

Trauma makes it difficult to feel joy, but you CAN experience it again, even if you’re in the early stages of your healing journey. This week, Thomas sits down with trauma researcher, life coach, and the author of Unbroken and The Joy Reset, Dr. MaryCatherine McDonald, to redefine joy, examine how trauma steals it from us, and explore how we can learn to let it into our lives again. Dr. McDonald has identified six “thieves of joy”—coping mechanisms that helped us to survive trauma and hardship, but

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50:56

Resilient Presence

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/05/06

Thomas explores a holistic, interdependent approach to well-being to help us navigate uncertainty, manage stress, and become a source of stability for ourselves and those around us. In times of global uncertainty, it’s essential that we come together—to pause, reflect, and reconnect. Thomas shares insights and practices to support us in cultivating the inner resilience needed to meet life’s challenges with greater presence, clarity, and care. Now more than ever, we need resilience to remain grounded

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55:26

Dr. Terry Real | Healing Intergenerational Trauma...

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/04/29

Thomas is joined by Terry Real, an acclaimed family therapist, bestselling author, and the founder of The Relational Life Institute. Terry shares insights from his years of work with couples and families struggling to repair their relationships, and how practicing what he calls “Relational Mindfulness” is a game-changer for anyone whose past traumas are negatively impacting their current connections. As Terry explains, the work of relationships is not day-by-day; it’s moment-to-moment. And in each

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53:14

Debbie Levin | Green Media and Personal Environmentalism

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/04/22

Thomas is joined by Debbie Levin, CEO of the Environmental Media Association, to discuss the role of media in shaping sustainability consciousness and how to effectively communicate about environmental issues. Debbie shares the importance of being gracious and non-judgmental when sharing knowledge on how to live a healthy, clean, and sustainable life. She explains how her organization has successfully leveraged celebrities’ platforms to spread awareness on crucial environmental issues and how the

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