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The Rest Is Money

Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories. Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to

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279. Why SMEs want more than verbal enthusiasm from...

The Rest Is Money ·

2026/05/17

Is the government doing enough to prioritise British SMEs in its defence spending plans? Should price always come first or should more expensive British made goods be the priority? Or are we in danger of propping up zombie business? And with rising energy and employment costs, how hard is it to be a UK manufacturer now? With the government aiming to increase UK SME defence spending by fifty percent, Steph talks to a manufacturer desperate to win back the MoD contracts it lost in the 1980s. Ben

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44:45

278. Can any Starmer rival rescue the economy?

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2026/05/12

Has Labour got what it takes to deliver growth? Is a change in leadership going to help? How might Rayner, Burnham or Streeting fair against the bond markets? Could a plan to shift the tax burden away from working people and on to assets be the answer?As the chaos in Westminster continues, and government borrowing costs reach a 28 year high, Robert and Steph discuss what it will take to get the stability we need, and more importantly the growth. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus

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49:48

277. How to make green energy a vote winner

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2026/05/10

Why is the UK’s energy pricing system so broken? Why must the transition to green energy be accelerated? And how can we make clean, renewable power the most affordable option for those on low incomes? Robert joins Emma Pinchbeck, CEO of the Climate Change Committee, to discuss the misunderstood parts of our energy system and what the UK’s shift to renewables actually looks like. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy

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53:24

276. Will bond market vigilantes see off Starmer’s...

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2026/05/06

Could the government’s creditors protect Starmer and Reeves, even if Labour is humiliated in the elections? How high are UK interest rates going to rise because of Trump’s Iran war? Has monetary policy stopped working? Could AI actually lead to the creation of millions of new jobs? And is coal consumption in the 19th Century a good way to predict this? Steph and Robert dissect the Bank of England’s latest assessment of the UK economy. Plus Robert takes us back in time to explain why Jevons

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42:48

275. The Debt Paradox: Britain’s Hidden Credit Crisis

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2026/05/03

If household debt as a percentage of GDP is at its lowest since 2002, why are debt charities seeing record levels of demand? Is this a temporary problem because of the cost of living crisis or about much bigger structural problems in the UK economy? Plus, what is ‘co-erced debt’ and why is it a growing problem?Steph talks to Vikki Brownridge the CEO of the debt advisory charity StepChange about what’s really going on for the increasing number of people struggling with money. They discuss the

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44:13

274. Would rejoining the EU be the best growth strategy?

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2026/04/29

How much did Brexit cost the UK? Would rejoining make us much richer? And if US managers are PSG players, are British ones more like Aston Villa’s?Robert talks to Stanford Professor Nick Bloom about his influential forecast, recently adopted by Rachel Reeves, that quitting the EU made Britain 8% or £240bn poorer than it would otherwise have been. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy

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52:45

273. How angry are business leaders with the government?

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2026/04/26

How long will Starmer cling on for? Will politicians sucking up to Northerners make any difference to the North South divide? What’s the latest with the Strait of Hormuz and how is it impacting global prices? How is that feeding through to inflation here? Is Miliband right to stop more oil being drilled in the North Sea and what’s his plan to bring down energy bills?After another week of Mandelson drama, Robert takes us behind the scenes and Steph looks at examples in business where bad vetting

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53:13

272. Is Anthropic holding businesses to ransom?

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2026/04/22

Is it fair that only some businesses have access to Anthropic’s super-powerful Mythos AI, given its ability to pierce cyber defences? Will OpenAI go bust? Will Demis Hassabis win the AI wars?Robert Peston talks to Sebastian Mallaby about his biography of British AI genius Demis Hassabis, The Infinity Machine. Note: We contacted OpenAI for comment, who told us that 'the article revisits old, widely reported episodes and frames them through selective anecdotes, anonymous claims, and incomplete

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51:19

271. Youth unemployment - a national emergency?

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2026/04/19

Why are one million young people not in education, employment or training? Is the benefits system part of the problem? Are schools out of date? What’s the alternative? Steph talks to former health minister Alan Milburn – who is leading a review into NEETS -about the systemic health and structural barriers to work. They discuss the cost to the economy and the alarming stat that if a young person doesn’t get a job by the time they’re 24 they’re unlikely ever to. Fortunately Alan thinks he has the

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46:58

270. AI minister: How we build a trillion dollar AI...

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2026/04/15

What’s the point of the government’s new £500m sovereign AI fund? How is the government planning to avert AI Armageddon? Isn’t it time for AI to be permanently in the classroom not banned from it? Robert talks to AI Minister Kanishka Narayan to explore the government’s strategy for a trillion-dollar British AI ecosystem-and whether the UK can truly scale a sovereign challenger to rival the likes of OpenAI, Anthropic and Gemini. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s

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269. Monzo founder: AI will kill income tax

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2026/04/12

Why are government’s failing to notice how AI is replacing many jobs now? If AI replaces all or most jobs, how can government’s replace all the lost taxes? Who will pay for public services and stop us from starving? Robert sits down with Monzo founder Tom Blomfield to hear his revolutionary plan to reform the tax system for an AI world. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy

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268. The price of financial hype

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2026/04/08

What’s a ‘finfluencer’ and why are they getting in trouble with the regulators? How much of a problem is dodgy tax advice given on social media? What part does financial literacy play in all of this? And is the law finally catching up?Steph talks to Stella Creasy - MP for Walthamstow and a prominent consumer rights campaigner - about her latest mission to stop the rise of unregulated financial advice on social media. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart

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37:15

267. Can AI save the public sector?

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2026/04/05

What difference would wider adoption of AI have in our struggling public services? Is it the answer to the UK productivity problem? Why does the government struggle to "buy British" when it comes to tech? And could a simple software fix save frontline workers 8 hours of admin a week?In this episode, Robert and Steph are joined by Alex Stephany, the CEO of Beam, a British ‘GovTech’ success story used by two-thirds of UK councils. Alex tells us how it works, but also why the government procurement

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48:15

266. Trump Turmoil: An investor's perspective

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2026/04/01

A month into the war in the Middle East, what are investors thinking? Are we heading for a global recession? Who is most exposed? What are the options central banks and governments have for getting through it? What does this mean for the UK economy? How can the government help people with bills without upsetting the bond markets and increase borrowing costs? Plus, what should you be thinking about if you have money in stocks and shares?Karen Ward – Chief Market Strategist EMEA at JP Morgan

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56:09

265. Are we due another financial crisis?

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2026/03/29

What does Lloyd Blankfein - former boss of Goldman Sachs - think is the biggest threat to financial stability? What did he learn from the credit crunch about dealing with risk? Was the investment bank the ‘vampire squid’ it was described as? Plus, why did his cancer diagnosis have to be kept secret? Lloyd talks to Robert and Steph about his journey from a housing project in Brooklyn to CEO of Goldman Sachs during the 2008 financial crisis. They also discuss AI, fat fingers and whether Lloyd

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264. Why the chair of Iceland Foods is not worried...

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2026/03/26

What is retail boss Richard Walker telling Kier Starmer to do in his new role as the PM’s Cost of Living Tsar? Why does he want a temporary cap on the profits of energy and oil companies? How does a supermarket like Iceland handle the price pressures that come from war in the Middle East? And how worried is he about rising employment costs? Richard Walker - executive chair of Iceland Foods - talks to Steph and Robert about everything from whether we should be drilling for more oil in the North

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52:19

263. Iran War: protecting the UK economy from the...

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2026/03/23

Why is the UK economy the most exposed to the harm from Trump’s Iran war? How should Reeves respond? And with resources so tight, which families should be bailed out from rising energy prices? Steph and Robert explain why Starmer should not waste this crisis, and should take the bold painful decisions to put Britain on a path to higher growth Since the recording of this episode, Donald Trump announced a five-day extension on his ultimatum to "hit and obliterate" Iran. Robert and Steph's

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262. Does the Chancellor have a growth plan at last?

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2026/03/19

The Chancellor claims she is finally focussed on growth, but is it too little too late? Will the EU agree to improve access for British exporters? How much of our taxes will she transfer to metro mayors and what will they spend it on? And why is she still so far behind the curve on AI?Robert and Steph mark the PM’s homework, as she says she at last has a plan to make us richer. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy

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261. Dire straits: Should the Royal Navy end the Iran...

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2026/03/16

How will Keir Starmer protect our living standards from the soaring energy costs caused by Trump’s Iran war? Can the Chancellor afford to subsidise our heating bills? And should the Prime Minister say yes to Trump’s request for British minesweeping drones and ships to be sent to the Straits of Hormuz?Steph and Robert discuss the options available to the government to limit the economic damage from the Iran war. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy

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260. Iran War: why the poor will suffer

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2026/03/12

Why are financial markets still failing to price in the true economic costs of "Trump’s war"? How is the UK facing a "double whammy" of both higher interest rates and declining living standards? Why is it considered "ludicrous" to believe the economy could return to normal quickly, even if the war ended tomorrow?Robert and Steph are joined by Mohamed El-Erian for an urgent deep dive into what the government can do to reduce the economic harm caused by the Iran war. Together, they assess the hit to

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