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Break the Business

Break the Business Podcast

A show for indie creators and the people who love and support them. Break the Business Podcast is a fun and informative discussion of entertainment law (for non-lawyers), independent artists, and popular culture. Break the Business is recorded live on Thursdays at 9pm Eastern at twitch.tv/breakthebusiness. Catch the show on Mondays at 6pm on SiriusXM Channel 145 SLAM Radio and on all major podcast platforms! If you"d like to be a guest or have any questions, please send us an email at

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1:00:14

BTB Ep 455: The end of TikTok?; we interview Joseph...

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2024/12/22

TOPICS: An appeals court has kept the TikTok ban in place, but will the Supreme Court save the app?; we break down The Game Awards; ElisaRockDoc Career Update; we interview Joseph Perla, founder and CEO of music social listening platform Hangout. Find out more by visiting www.hangout.fm.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break the Business on Facebook

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59:26

BTB Ep 454: Lessons from Wicked’s marketing campaign;...

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2024/12/09

OPICS: Ryan and Zak Sloan talk about what indie creators can learn from the marketing campaign for the “Wicked” motion picture; public domain day; we interview Bootleg CEO Rod Yancy. Bootleg is a live music merchandising company that captures and distributes fully licensed and high-quality concert recordings for artists and fans. Find out more by visiting bootleg.live.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and

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1:09:31

BTB Ep 453: Drake diss track legal filings; Adewale...

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2024/12/01

TOPICS: Drake’s camp made two legal filings involving the Kendrick Lamar “Not Like Us” diss track—is Drake going to sue his record label?; Gibson sends a cease and desist about Trump-branded guitars; our guest this week is former NFL all-pro and UBS head of sports and entertainment Adewale Ogunleye. Youcan follow our guest on Instagram @waleogunleye.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the

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1:00:19

BTB Ep 452: Should artists move to Bluesky?; we...

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2024/11/25

TOPICS: Twitch requires labeling for political content, which might be taking money out of streamers' pockets; Bluesky is growing as a social media platform—should creators consider creating an account there?; ElisaRockDoc Career Update; we interview singer-songwriter and American Idol alum SabrinaMonique about overcoming adversity in her career and finding her authentic self as an artist. Sabrina’s new album “It’s Not Me It’s You” dropped on September 27th and is available on all major music

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1:01:02

BTB Ep 451: The “waterfall” release strategy; we...

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2024/11/17

TOPICS: Ryan loves rapping grandma music; Ryan and Katie talk about the “waterfall” release strategy and how artists can utilize it to maximize the promotional power of their music releases. Our guest this week is Nicholas Niespodziani, the vocalist and guitarist for Yacht Rock Revue. Nicholas talks to Ryan and Kate about how his band captures the Yacht Rock vibe in their performances and gives advice on how musicians can create effective cover and tribute band projects. YRR’s The band’s new concept

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1:07:36

BTB Ep 450: Making one change to the music business;...

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2024/11/10

TOPICS: SoundExchange asks “If you could change one thing about the music industry tomorrow what would it be?”; Ed Sheeran gives a speech about how the role of record executives is changing; UMG suesTuneCore for $500 million for copyright infringement. Our guest this week is musician and former Activision CEO Eric Hirshberg. Eric’s latest album “Second Hand Smoke” is available now and you can find out more by visiting erichirshbergmusic.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on

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1:03:06

BTB Ep 449: Promoting music on podcasts; Kanru Hua of...

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2024/11/03

TOPICS: Are music business college programs worth it?; Ryan and Gideon talk about the promotional potential of podcasts for music; we interview Dreamtonics CEO Kanru Hua. Dreamtonics is a provider of AI vocal software solutions for songwriters and engineers. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting www.dreamtonics.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast

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1:06:51

BTB Ep 448: Why is everyone on TikTok being mean to...

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2024/10/27

TOPICS: Ryan does a rant about falling back in love with Network Television; Ryan and ElisaRockDoc love TikToker James McNicholas and his dramatic monologue versions of pop songs; we ask why it seems like everyone on TikTok being unnecessarily mean to the (awesome) band Lawrence lately; we interview music executive Paula Park and talk about her work in developing social impact campaigns for the biggest artists in music.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud,

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1:02:29

BTB Ep 447: The healing power of music; we interview...

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2024/10/21

TOPICS: Katie Zaccardi talks about the Vanderbilt field goal posts being carried through the streets of Nashville and her recent attendance at a Sabrina Carpenter concert; Evan Bogart has a mind-blowing story about how he wrote the Rihanna song “SOS”; we talk about the healing power of music in honor of World Mental Health Day; we interview Bill “Downupright” Boulden about their new album “ManicEpisode,” which is available now on all streaming platforms.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the

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59:53

BTB Ep 446: Rewarding your most loyal fans; jazz...

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2024/10/13

TOPICS: Ryan rants about reality shows conducting psych evaluations on its participants; Ryan and Zak talk about a BandzoogleBlog article detailing 71 ways to reward your music fan subscribers; we interview NYC jazz singer Lizzie Thomas. Lizzie’s latest single “Community” is available now and you can find out more about her work by visiting lizziethejazzsinger.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the

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1:03:19

BTB Ep 445: Donnie Kehr and Rockers on Broadway; New...

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2024/10/06

TOPICS: Ryan and Gideon King talk about the Miley Cyrus “Flowers” copyright case and the rising influence of private equity in music copyright; acclaimed Broadway actor and musician Donnie Kehrdrops in to talk about the annual Rockers on Broadway benefit event. Our guest this week is new-age musician Kevin Keller. You can find out more about Kevin’s latest ambitious album project “Evensong” by visiting www.kevinkeller.com.Tickets for Rockers on Broadway are available at

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1:01:11

BTB Ep 444: Google makes AI generated podcasts; we...

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2024/09/29

TOPICS: Google rolled out its new AI podcast feature for its Notebook LM platform; new copyright lawsuit against Miley Cyrus; ElisaRockDocCareer Upda te. Our guests this week are Matthew Adell and Sean Power, the COO and CEO of Musical AI. You can find out more about our guests' work by visitingwearemusical.ai. Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break

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1:02:22

BTB Ep 443: Is the music streaming model broken?; we...

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2024/09/22

TOPICS: Do music streaming services need to change their models amid recent Justice Department actions; indie tour cancellations are continuing to pile up; our guest this week is Grammy-winning music luminary Charlie Peacock. Charlie's new album “Every Kind of Uh Oh” dropped on August 30th and his memoir “Roots and Rhythm: A Life in Music” will come out early next year. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting charliepeacock.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast

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1:05:40

BTB Ep 442: Should Rockstar Games pay royalties to...

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2024/09/15

TOPICS: Martyn Ware of Heaven 17 posted on X that Rockstar Games did not offer him royalties to have his song featured in the latest Grand Theft Auto game; the AI Overlord gives advice on how to create fan pages successfully; Our guest this week Trevor Hinesley, the co-founder and Chief Technology Officer of Soundstripe. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting soundstripe.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play

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1:03:10

BTB Ep 441: The Justice Department is indicting for...

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2024/09/08

TOPICS: The Justice Department has indicated someone for using AI-generated songs to manipulate royalty payouts on music streaming services; the rise of fan pages; our guests this week are DamionGreiman and Anthony Leo of 800 Pound Gorilla Media, producers and distributors of hit comedy specials from Matt Rife, Nick Offerman, David Cross, Kelsey Cook, and many more. You can find out more about our guests’ work by visiting 800poundgorillamedia.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business

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1:04:02

BTB Ep 440: “Very Demure, Very Mindful” trademarks;...

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2024/09/01

TOPICS: Ryan and Producer Lauren talk about the “Very Demure, Very Mindful” trademark legal drama and whether catchphrases can receive trademark protection; getting signed releases for your recording projects; we interview Northern Ireland singer-songwriter Lauren Ann about making music videos and performing as an alter ego. Lauren Ann’s latest single “bite” off her upcoming EP is available now and you can check out our guest’s Instagram @laurenann_music.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the

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1:00:42

BTB Ep 439: Distrokid artists are not getting paid on...

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2024/08/18

TOPICS: DistroKid is partnering with Roblox—DistroKidwins, Roblox wins, indie artists get nothing; President Biden speaks at the White House's first Creator Economy Conference; advice for how to deal with dead crowds; our guest this week is LyricFind CEO Darryl Ballantyne. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting www.lyricfind.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business

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1:02:43

BTB Ep 438: Lou Pearlman’s legacy; we interview rock...

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2024/08/11

TOPICS: Ryan and Gideon King review the new Netflix documentary “Dirty Pop” about boy band manager and convicted Ponzi schemer Lou Pearlman; we talk about the latest developments in the record labels’ lawsuit against Suno AI; we interview platinum rock singer-songwriter and Season 7American Idol Winner David Cook. David's latest single "Dead Weight" dropped on July 19th. Find out more about our guest’s work by visiting davidcookofficial.com and volume.com/davidcook.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break

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1:03:24

BTB Ep 437: How to get your mechanical royalties; we...

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2024/08/04

TOPICS: Ryan and ElisaRockDoc obsess over the Olympics; we answer a question about the different ways that songwriters can efficiently collect their mechanical royalties; ElisaRockDoc breaks down her experience working as a performer at Gen Con in Indianapolis; we interview drummer and motivational speaker Ray LeVier about his approach to drumming and how he uses breathwork to improve his focus and performance. Ray’s new book “Drumming in Flow” is available now and you can learn more about his work

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1:01:46

BTB Ep 436: Copyright holders are suing the NBA;...

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2024/07/28

TOPICS: The benefits of getting into podcasting, even without a big audience; copyright holders are suing NBA teams for using music in social media videos; we interview Hadley Spanier, the global head of Global Head of Artist Partnerships and Industry Relations for the music education platform Yousician.Find out more about our guest’s work by visiting yousician.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the

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