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Talk About That

John Driver and Jonnie W., Christian Comedy Creatives

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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50:15

Healthy Self-Awareness vs Unhealthy Navel-Gazing:...

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2025/01/23

"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life, and you will call it fate." - Carl Jung. Self-awareness is a double-edged sword. Too much of it and you can become an introspective navel gazer. But at the same time, as John Calvin said, "without knowledge of self, there is no knowledge of God." In this episode, John and Jonnie talk about what healthy self-awareness looks like versus unhealthy navel-gazing. While we aren’t able to control everything that happens to us, we

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44:54

Avoiding the Comparison Trap in Your Career (Plus...

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2025/01/16

John comes in second place A LOT and tries his best to look menacing on his way to Walgreens. Meanwhile, Jonnie eats way too many caramels and learns that the most highly ranked restaurants are also selling car parts. Plus, a conversation about the trap of comparison and how to enjoy the one life you've been given. We make a lot of resolutions this time of year, things we plan to do... but is there anything you ought to "undo" as the new year begins? Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Hearing

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45:27

How Gratitude Can Quiet Your Anxiety (Plus Reclaimed...

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2025/01/09

"He who fears he shall suffer, already suffers what he fears." - Michel de Montaigne. This guy said that in the 1500s… so anxiety has been around for a while. In this episode of Talk About That, we talk about fear and worry - is there a way to get better at worry? Can we worry less in 2025? Is that a resolution we can keep? Listen in to our conversation about gratitude and actively looking for the good in the world as an antidote for anxiety. Plus, John thinks he worries better than you do

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43:19

Christmas Pickles, Skating Rinks, and Attitude...

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2024/12/24

John has a new name for December 23rd and has an Elf on the Shelf that refuses to move. Meanwhile, Jonnie does an indoor show without any heat and searches for a lucky pickle in his Christmas tree. Plus, a conversation about the right perspective when facing obstacles and inconveniences. Today’s episode is not sponsored by Feet: “The original stocking stuffers.” FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR

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40:08

Burning Rugs, Explosive Shoes, and Self-Righteousness

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2024/12/19

John becomes an impromptu firefighter and turns Jonnie's rental car story into a sermon illustration.Meanwhile, Jonnie gets flagged at the airport and tells us the real reason "It's a Wonderful Life" became a classic. Plus, a conversation about self-righteousness and the temptation to make the gospel about "other more sinful people" when it's really about us. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Cheerios: "Cereal for people who think Apple Jacks is just too flavorful." FOLLOW Jonnie W.:

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47:53

Santa Stops, Prison Visits, and Advent

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2024/12/12

John questions Santa's delivery route and takes a private jet straight to prison. Meanwhile, Jonnie has his rental car confiscated in the middle of the night, and tells the story of the time Winston Churchill got a prescription for booze. Plus, a conversation about Advent, waiting, and the beauty of brokenness. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Gift Bags and Limp Bizkit: "Both great for people who are really bad (w)rappers." FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver:

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34:09

Frozen Turkeys, Cheapskates, and Big Tables

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2024/11/28

John tells us why we really eat turkey at Thanksgiving and is forced to perform in a talent show before he can join the feast. Meanwhile, Jonnie defends the lowly Sloppy Joe as a quality sandwich and tells the tale of the woman so cheap she made nightgowns out of newspapers. Plus, a conversation about what it really means to "prepare a table for us in the presence of our enemies” and why some people are disappointed by God's mercy towards others. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Cranberry Sauce:

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34:09

Freezer Jeans, Propaganda, and Waiting

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2024/11/21

John doesn't remember a popular clothing brand and almost falls for a piano scam. Meanwhile, Jonnie nearly has a wardrobe malfunction and argues that your blue jeans don't belong in the freezer. Plus, a conversation about the courage it takes to hope and why the next generation may actually be getting tired of cynicism. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Bed Bath and Beyond: "When Life Hands You Linens...." FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN,

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43:16

Peppers, Hobbies, & Filibusters

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2024/11/14

John defends green peppers, eats gum wrappers, and needs a hobby. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders why people romanticize medieval times and reveals the surprising reason the sandwich was really invented. Plus, a conversation about wisdom and foolishness, and how the internet has robbed us of contemplation before rendering an opinion. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Chewing Gum: "We'll see you again in 7 years." FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN,

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42:38

Prayer Peekers, Smarty Pants, and Stubbornness

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2024/11/08

John keeps a secret folder of phrases to make himself look cool at parties and invents a clothing line. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders people who pray with one eye open and tells the story of the man who was jailed for 7 years for smoking tobacco. Plus, a conversation about the one thing wise and stupid people have in common. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Dogs: "We're like cats, except we're excited to see you." FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

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41:28

Monk Retreats, Hotel Robes, and Generosity

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2024/11/01

John gets frustrated with ChatGPT and wants to be a monk (except for the silence part). Meanwhile, Jonnie stays at a hotel with a fancy television and thinks his wife may have stolen several pair of slippers. Plus, a conversation about prosperity, giving, and surrender. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Bobbing for Apples: "The Halloween Party game that's also an interrogation technique." FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND

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41:32

Early Voting, Early Baldness, and Bruce Lee

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2024/10/24

John tells us why he just can't lick his fingers anymore and gets jealous of the Bachelor. Meanwhile, Jonnie dishes on an exciting delivery to the old ‘Beverly Hills 90210’ set and gets irritated by fancy ketchup at restaurants. Plus, a conversation about talent vs discipline and why repetition matters more than you think. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Text Messages From Political Campaigns : "See how fast you can type 'STOP’!" FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver:

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38:31

Dog Training, Confused Emus, and Forgiveness

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2024/10/18

John gets played by his own dog and ponders a replacement for smart phones. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about pandas who fake pregnancy and how Abe Lincoln got body-shamed by an 11-year old girl. Plus, a conversation about forgiveness and grace as a habitual act. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Moving Walkways at the Airport: "We make you feel like you're in a factory that makes lazy people." FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND

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42:42

Why Battle Language in Scripture Needs to Be Handled...

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2024/10/10

John looks bad in volleyball shorts and talks to a coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the origin of the “redshirt freshman” in football and why the Beatles’ biggest hit was almost a song about breakfast. Plus, a conversation about the subtle difference between a wise person and a fool. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Oatmeal: “Tastes 45% better than it looks.” Take a journey with us through these important topics: John and Jonnie W. discuss the origin of the term "red shirt" in football,

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44:23

The Perfect Sandwich, Dopamine, and Systems

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2024/10/04

John supersizes his game day food and ponders a time before cellphones ruined us. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us why a picnic is no picnic and reveals how a little citrus saved some British sailors. Plus, a conversation about goals and systems, and why one is more important than the other. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Hot Air Balloons: “The only form of flight that combines a wicker basket with an open flame.” FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

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46:46

Neural Implants, World War III, and The Party of...

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2024/09/26

John ponders neural implants and whether he’d want to control devices with his mind. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us about the guy who saved the entire world from annihilation by not doing his job, and shares the absolute worst inspiration Bible verse if you are a a wrestler. Plus, a conversation about the broken two-party system and the importance of seeing the humanity in people with whom you disagree. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Benadryl: “You may still have allergies, but you’ll be too

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48:09

"I Have Everything, Why Am I Still Sad?" A...

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2024/09/20

John and Jonnie chat about the pros and cons of performing at a music festival. Then, Jonnie tells the tale of the very first chiropractor and shares some old jokes about changing light bulbs. Plus, a conversation about anxiety and brokenness, and why we need the proper perspective during hard times. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Trophy Shops: "If you have 30 bucks, we'll make you a winner!” FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE,

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43:24

How We’re Choosing Hope Instead of Cynicism (Plus...

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2024/09/12

John gets a present straight from the garbage and starts a militia. Meanwhile, Jonnie wrecks his first car spectacularly and tells us about the longest baseball game in history. Plus, a conversation about choosing hope over fear and how our actions can make deserts or forests. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Bubble Tea: “When you want a drink you can chew.” FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at

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42:53

Rizz, Piggly Wiggly, and Priorities

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2024/09/05

John learns the origins of the slang term “Rizz” and raises a celebratory toast to 17th century Massachusetts. Meanwhile, Jonnie haunts his own car while it’s in the repair shop and reveals why being the opener as a comedian can sometimes be a real sweet spot. Plus, a conversation about idols and order, and how misplaced priorities can lead to all kinds of problems. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Stanley Cups: ”If you own one, you also probably have to pee a lot.” FOLLOW Jonnie W.:

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31:12

Recliners, False Endings, and Good Intentions

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2024/08/29

John’s recliner dreams are dashed and he hesitates to tell strangers what he does for a living. Meanwhile, Jonnie has nightmares he can’t wake up from and argues that a very popular trilogy of movies are all about 30 minutes too long. Plus, a conversation about how we evaluate others versus how we judge ourselves. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Sporks: “Imagine an eating utensil somehow more useless than just using your hands.” FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver:

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