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The Strong Towns Podcast

The Strong Towns Podcast is a weekly conversation on the Strong Towns movement, hosted by Strong Towns Founder and President Charles Marohn and frequently featuring special guests. The podcast explores how we can financially strengthen our cities, towns, and neighborhoods and, in the process, make them better places to live. Join Chuck in examining how everything from urban design to economics to systems theory to psychology helps inform this core question.

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01:06:40

How To Manage City Finance Effectively, With Rick Cole

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2025/03/31

Rick Cole is the chief deputy controller of Los Angeles and a councilmember in Pasadena, California. He’s known for tackling challenging city budgets and has been honored for his work as a public official several times, including with a Excellence in Management Award. Cole joins Chuck Marohn on this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast to discuss city finances and how they can be improved. Their conversation includes the following topics: What does it mean for budgets to be value statements? How

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59:21

The Keys to a Healthy City Finance Department With...

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2025/03/24

This week, Chuck is joined by Shayne Kavanagh, senior manager of research for the Government Finance Officers Association (GFOA). The GFOA provides training and resources to city finance officers. In his role, Kavanagh develops new approaches to budgeting, financial reporting and revenue that can better address the problems local governments are trying to solve.Chuck and Kavanagh discuss the role of finance officers as “decision architects.” Kavanagh gives a closer look at the world of local

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54:45

How To Finance Housing in a Smart and Local Way: A...

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2025/03/17

What cities have successfully financed housing at the local level? How does tax increment financing work? When should cities stop subsidizing large-scale housing projects? Strong Towns President Chuck Marohn answers all these questions and more in this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast.ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES There are six code reforms your city officials can implement today to welcome more housing to your community. Learn more here. Do you want 1-on-1 coaching with Chuck on how to bring more

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59:52

It Won’t Be Us: Thoughts on Our Current Craziness...

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2025/03/11

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck addresses the craziness of the current political climate. Using recent policy changes and public responses as examples, he explores how we’ve created a political climate of either-or: Either you decide to take a chainsaw to bankrupt and failing systems or you refuse to acknowledge that they’re bankrupt and failing. Chuck shows how the Strong Towns approach provides a third path, where problems are recognized and addressed in a healthy way. He also

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01:06:56

These 6 Code Reforms Will Bring More Housing to Your...

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2025/03/03

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck talks about housing development and zoning code reform with Seth Zeren, a neighborhood real estate developer in Providence, Rhode Island. They dive into the six code reforms recommended in “The Housing-Ready City: A Toolkit for Local Code Reform,” covering why they’re important and how they help developers, residents and cities.ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Get your National Gathering ticket before they sell out! “The Housing-Ready City: A Toolkit for

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33:40

America Needs a New Housing Bargain. Here’s Why.

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2025/02/24

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck explores the flawed nature of North America’s current “housing bargain,” where most neighborhoods are allowed to stay exactly the same as long as some neighborhoods — usually those that are poorer and have less political clout — are forced to radically change. He proposes a new way forward that respects cities as living and evolving systems. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES This Thursday, February 27, Strong Towns will release a toolkit to help city

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51:59

Remembering Donald Shoup: A Legacy of Curiosity,...

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2025/02/17

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck is joined by Victor Dover, a planner and urban designer. They discuss the work and legacy of Dr. Donald Shoup, an engineer and professor of urban planning who revolutionized the fields of urban planning and parking reform with his book “The High Cost of Free Parking.” They also talk about their own relationships with Dr. Shoup and how he impacted their work as an engineer and planner. Then, keep listening for a rerun of an interview with Dr. Shoup

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56:12

Bonus Episode: Lessons From 9 Strongest Town Contest...

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2025/02/11

This special episode of the Strong Towns Podcast explores the Strongest Town Contest, including what cities can learn from previous winners, what it means for cities to participate, and a preview of this year's Contest. Joining the discussion are Strong Towns staffers Lauren Ronnander and John Pattison, as well as Stephen Gawron, the former mayor of the 2018 Strongest Town, Muskegon, Michigan.ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Learn more about the Strongest Town Contest. Nominate your place (anyone can do

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55:52

Ben Hunt: Surviving the Widening Gyre Through Hope...

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2025/02/10

Today, Chuck is joined by Ben Hunt, the creator of Epsilon Theory. Their conversation revolves around the concept of the Widening Gyre, a “profound social equilibrium where bad people and bad ideas drive out good people and good ideas.” They discuss this concept from a few different angles: How it relates to top-down systems like America’s political systems and corporations. How it has led to the loss of a national narrative and increased division and conflict. How a community-based approach

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01:02:03

How Do You Build More Housing When No One Wants...

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2025/01/27

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck discusses housing with Cullum Clark, director of the Economic Growth Initiative at the George W. Bush Institute. They talk about why there is so much resistance to new development, ways that officials and advocates could engage with the public to reduce that resistance, and what the incoming Trump administration could mean for housing.ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES George W. Bush Presidential Center (site). Chuck Marohn (Twitter/X). Learn what comes

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58:11

Debunking the "Slow and Incremental" Myth: The Key to...

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2025/01/20

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck discusses the common misbelief that an incremental approach to housing development is inherently slow. He explains how an incremental approach can actually be much faster than focusing on large housing projects, what that means for major cities, and how to make incremental housing more appealing to people who don’t want their neighborhoods to change.ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Transcript available on our site. Chuck Marohn (Twitter/X). Learn what

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01:31:06

Comparing the Strong Towns and YIMBY Approaches to...

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2025/01/13

The Building Culture Podcast explores holistic solutions to crafting a more beautiful, resilient and thriving world through the built environment. Its host, Austin Tunnell, recently invited Strong Towns President Charles Marohn and California YIMBY’s Nolan Gray onto the show to debate the housing crisis. It was a great conversation that explores how these movements align and differ in their approaches to housing.ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Transcript available on our site. The Building Culture

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45:33

Memorable Moments in the History of Strong Towns

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2024/12/23

Over the years, Chuck has added audio clips to the Strong Towns Podcast outro music to memorialize influential moments and experiences he’s had since founding Strong Towns. Today, in honor of that outro music being retired, he breaks down each of these clips, explaining why they’re significant and how these experiences influenced him and the Strong Towns movement as a whole.ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Chuck Marohn (Twitter/X).

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58:13

From the Federal Government to RV Parks: A Housing Q&A

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2024/12/16

On this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck continues answering housing questions submitted by Ohio State University students. The questions cover state and federal housing policy, local government’s role in financing and regulation, local action, the division between urban and rural environments, and temporary housing. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Chuck Marohn (Twitter/X). Part 1: "From Building Backyard Cottages to Banning Airbnbs: A Housing Q&A." "Escaping the Housing Trap: The Strong

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01:07:54

From Building Backyard Cottages to Banning Airbnbs: A...

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2024/12/13

On this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck answers housing questions submitted by Ohio State University students. The questions cover the history of the housing market, as well as backyard cottages, alternative housing arrangements, and housing finance.Tune in on Monday for Part 2, where Chuck will answer questions related to other topics, including state and federal housing policy. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Chuck Marohn (Twitter/X). "Escaping the Housing Trap: The Strong Towns Response to

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27:54

Families for Safe Streets: Giving a Face to the...

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2024/11/25

On this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck discusses safe streets advocacy with Amy Cohen, the co-founder and president of Families for Safe Streets. They cover the importance of using both data and personal stories to drive change, some of Families for Safe Streets’ recent initiatives, and advice for local advocates on how to support people who have lost loved ones to traffic violence.See the additional notes for resources and support from Families for Safe Streets. ADDITIONAL SHOW

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28:29

Why Strong Towns Won’t Cave to Election Year Pressures

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2024/11/15

It’s Member Week here at Strong Towns. As a special treat, we’re publishing three new episodes of the Strong Towns Podcast. In this episode, Chuck explains how election years affect a nonpartisan nonprofit like Strong Towns. It’s kind of ugly, but it doesn't change our mission. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Become a member today! Chuck Marohn (Twitter/X).

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59:41

From the Bottom Up: How Members Built the Strong...

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2024/11/13

It’s Member Week here at Strong Towns. As a special treat, we’re publishing three new episodes of the Strong Towns Podcast this week. In this episode, Chuck is joined by Norm Van Eeden Petersman, Strong Towns’ director of membership and development. They discuss the history of the Strong Towns movement and how members have brought it to heights Chuck never could’ve imagined — including spreading Strong Towns ideas not only across North America but across the world. The movement’s grown so much, but

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28:08

To Build Strong Towns, We Need To Change the Cultural...

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2024/11/11

Today, we’re kicking off Member Week at Strong Towns. As a special treat, we’ll be publishing three new episodes of the Strong Towns Podcast this week. In this first episode, Chuck discusses the cultural shift that the Strong Towns movement is striving to create and why that shift is so essential to building more prosperous and resilient communities. This is a bottom-up movement, and it needs your help to succeed. Join the ranks of people building a stronger tomorrow by becoming a member

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01:00:12

5 Things the Next President Should Do To Build a...

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2024/11/04

Strong Towns is a nonpartisan organization that’s focused on starting change from the local level, not the federal one. However, Chuck was recently challenged to come up with five things that the next president, whoever they end up being, should do once they’re in office. In today’s episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, he shares that list and explains why each item is important to building a stronger America. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES “5 Things For The Next President To Do” (article). Chuck Marohn

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