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We Can Do Hard Things

Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

Come do life with Glennon Doyle, Abby Wambach, and Amanda Doyle. With more than half a billion plays, We Can Do Hard Things is a hilarious, raw, comforting “support system for braving the everyday.” The Pod Squad goes hard ($56 Million raised in global aid) and stays soft: meet here on Tuesdays to laugh, talk, and cry our way through the pain and magic of being human. Subscribe, Follow, and join our social media community here: https://linktr.ee/wecandohardthingsshow

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80:59

How to Stay In Love: Mandy Patinkin & Kathryn Grody

We Can Do Hard Things ·

2025/10/16

Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody join us for a heartfelt, soulful, and delightfully chaotic conversation about: - How to make a marriage last; - The importance of quiet; and - how we can hold tight to our own humanity while demanding a more humanitarian world. This conversation is an urgent reminder of how we can all use our voices to make the world more beautiful. Join us now. About Mandy: Mandy Patinkin is a Tony Award–winning actor, singer, and storyteller whose career spans four

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72:58

What Psychedelics Taught Glennon

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2025/10/14

Join us for the hilarious, unfiltered, and vulnerable story of the time Glennon tried therapeutic psychedelics. At last, Glennon reveals to the Pod Squad: - The mishap that turned a “micro-dose” macro; - What Glennon encountered on her guided psychedelic journey; and - How Sinéad O’Connor, a basement vision, and the magic words “I don’t know” helped Glennon heal. Disclaimer: We are sharing lived experience, not medical advice. 00:00:00 Welcome to WCDHT 00:04:30 Glennon sets the

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94:03

Katie Gavin: How to Know What You Want

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2025/10/09

We all have something inside us that knows exactly what we want. Katie Gavin joins us to talk about: How to identify that kernel of desire inside—and then have the courage to follow it; Why love addiction can feel like being stuck on a “treadmill in the cosmos”; and the moment Katie called Glennon a Femme/Dom—and how it changed Glennon’s life forever. Katie Gavin’s album: What A Relief About Katie: Katie Gavin is a musician and member of the pop band MUNA, and

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74:41

The Trick G Uses to Make All Decisions

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2025/10/07

Glennon shares the new way she’s making peace with her body—not through individual “wellness,” but through community care and collective action. Together, we explore why it’s more important than ever that we show up—even if we’re scared or heartbroken—because the world needs our broken hearts. And we unearth a small miracle: by listening to our bodies, we can participate in life without abandoning ourselves. Join us now. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Youtube —

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83:19

INDIGO GIRLS AND MELISSA ETHERIDGE!!

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2025/10/02

Music icons, queer trailblazers, and our heroes—Indigo Girls and Melissa Etheridge—share the wisdom, humor, and heart that have carried them through decades of music and community. We talk about faith, the power of music to heal and connect, their advice for queer kids, and the lessons they’re learning from young activists.About Indigo Girls: Across four decades, 16 studio albums, and over 15 million records sold, the Grammy-winning Indigo Girls – Emily Saliers and Amy Ray – continue to blaze

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62:12

How G’s Surviving Her Baby Leaving

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2025/09/30

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda share the bittersweet moment they dropped Tish off at college—and how they’re navigating the lucky grief of parenting older kids.If you, too, are in the middle of this landslide—learning how to hold on and let go as your kids grow up—this conversation is for you. Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Youtube — @wecandohardthingsshow Instagram — @wecandohardthings TikTok — @wecandohardthingshow

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79:07

Natasha Rothwell: The Third Doyle Sister?!

We Can Do Hard Things ·

2025/09/25

Natasha Rothwell is here today to teach us not only how to survive this time, but how to absolutely stay alive—and hold onto our wild, precious humanity—during this time. During this magical hour, we discuss: - The paradox of being an introvert who loves people; - How Natasha finds God in theater, laughter, and even pain; - How understanding her neurodivergence set Natasha free; and - How we can resist fascism by leaning into delight, sexuality, creativity, and nature. This conversation

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86:51

Jen Hatmaker: What Are You Pretending Not to Know?

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2025/09/23

Each of us has something we’re pretending not to know—an inner voice that whispers: We’re in trouble. Join us for a raw conversation with Jen Hatmaker on: the cost of ignoring the trouble in her 25-year marriage; the night she heard her husband on the phone with his girlfriend; and the freedom she found when she finally embraced the truth. About Jen: Jen Hatmaker is a bestselling author, award-winning podcaster, and fierce advocate for women living in freedom and agency. With 14

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61:34

The New Era: LOVE, FURY, FREEDOM (Watch on YouTube!)

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2025/09/16

You’ve been asking for 4 years, and the day is finally here! You can now WATCH all We Can Do Hard Things conversations on YouTube!!! Click over to the We Can Do Hard Things Show YouTube channel and subscribe here now: https://www.youtube.com/@WeCanDoHardThingsShow After you subscribe, click the bell button so you don’t miss new video episodes (every Tuesday and Thursday)! In this FIRST EVER VIDEO EPISODE OF WE CAN DO HARD THINGS—Glennon, Abby and Amanda get extra honest about how they’re

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2:34

Come See Us On YouTube!!!!

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2025/09/15

Pod Squad! Starting tomorrow, you'll be able to WATCH all of our We Can Do Hard Things conversations on YouTube! To make sure you don’t miss tomorrow’s FIRST video show, click over to the We Can Do Hard Things Show YouTube channel and subscribe now: youtube.com/@WeCanDoHardThingsShow After you subscribe, click the bell button so you don’t miss new video episodes—dropping every Tuesday and Thursday! And of course, you’ll still find the audio version wherever you listen. SEE you on You

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43:30

Liz Gilbert on Loving Without Losing Yourself

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2025/09/11

443. Liz Gilbert on Loving Without Losing Yourself Glennon and Liz Gilbert go deeper into Liz’s relationship with Rayya, into the tender, messy, miraculous place where caring for someone else pushes hard against caring for yourself. They talk about the quiet traps of codependency, the heartbreak of giving away your power, and the transformative freedom that comes when you turn to a higher voice for guidance. Listen to the first part of our conversation here. About Elizabeth: Elizabeth

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46:56

Elizabeth Gilbert on Losing the Love of Her Life

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2025/09/09

442. Elizabeth Gilbert on Losing the Love of Her Life Elizabeth Gilbert comes to Glennon’s home to talk about her love with Rayya Elias—the joy, the devastation, and the truth-telling that came after. Liz opens up about the brutal reality of addiction—Rayya’s drug addiction and her own love addiction—and how their secret lives collided. This is a conversation about intimacy, betrayal, codependency, survival, and recovery. And it’s about how even the hardest truths, once spoken, can set us

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63:48

WELCOME TO THE PARTY EP1 - Allyson Felix Took On...

We Can Do Hard Things ·

2025/09/04

Enjoy the FIRST EPISODE of Abby's new women's sports podcast co-hosted by Julie Foudy and Billie Jean King... WELCOME TO THE PARTY! In this first episode, track and field legend ALLYSON FELIX joins Abby, Julie, and Billie to get real about the Nike showdown that reset maternity protections, the women-first power plays behind Saysh and Always Alpha, and what’s next for track & field. Plus GOATs Ask the GOAT—Mia Hamm, Coco Gauff, and Mikaela Shiffrin pop in with surprise questions for “The

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50:38

The Best Advice We’ve Got on Loneliness & Jealousy...

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2025/08/31

Who do we go to for advice? And do we really even WANT advice — or just a good listener?Glennon, Abby, and Amanda tell us who they each go to when they don’t know what to do next — and offer their best advice to Pod Squaders dealing with loneliness and the unexpected jealousy of their partner's affection for a pet. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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57:40

WELCOME TO THE PARTY! Abby’s Big Secret Reveal with...

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2025/08/28

441. WELCOME TO THE PARTY! Abby’s Big Secret Reveal with Julie Foudy! Attention Party People! Abby has BIG news—she’s launching Welcome to the Party, a video-first women’s sports podcast with legends Julie Foudy & Billie Jean King!!!! The very first episode of Welcome to the Party drops September 4th. Go follow & subscribe NOW so you don’t miss it. Today, you’re going to hear all about how this party started. Abby and Julie share the full origin story of Welcome to the Party. From a car ride to

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55:46

Becoming Full of Yourself | Austin Channing Brown

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2025/08/26

440. Becoming Full of Yourself | Austin Channing Brown Author, speaker, and racial justice leader Austin Channing Brown joins us to share why centering the lives and voices of Black women isn’t just powerful—it’s transformative for everyone. In this conversation about truth-telling, liberation, and reimagining the future, we discuss: -The cost of cultural “belonging” and the radical freedom in refusing it;-Why the difference between justice and fairness matters more than we think;-How embodiment

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51:05

The Closure Myth: How Do We Really Move On? (Best Of)

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2025/08/24

368. The Closure Myth: How Do We Really Move On? Abby, Glennon and Amanda delve into your voicemails and discuss matters of the broken heart, closure, self-sabotage, moving toward or away from family, and more. Discover: Glennon’s “magical pessimism” Why creative people do not seek out closure The geographical solution or finding the “right” place to live To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn

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53:32

Get Free from Perfectionism | Live on Tour

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2025/08/21

439. Get Free from Perfectionism | Live on Tour For anyone ready to break free from perfectionism and finally choose themselves – join us today, live from our We Can Do Hard Thing tour. Glennon, Abby, and Amanda talk about why we cling to perfectionism, how growth can strain relationships, and what it means to stay true to yourself. Plus, in an unforgettable moment, Abby surprises Glennon on their anniversary in front of thousands. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices

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58:55

How to Protect Kids from ICE

We Can Do Hard Things ·

2025/08/19

438. How to Protect Kids from ICERight now in America, children are standing alone in immigration court—no lawyer, no advocate, no protection—forced to represent themselves against government attorneys from Homeland Security. Glennon joins immigration justice leaders Lillian Aponte Miranda of the Florence Project and Shaina Aber of the Acacia Center for Justice to reveal what’s happening to immigrant families—and how we can meet this moment with care and action to protect children from ICE. To

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60:22

How to Have *Healthy* Conflict with Amanda Ripley...

We Can Do Hard Things ·

2025/08/17

351. How to Have *Healthy* Conflict with Amanda Ripley Conflict expert and investigative journalist, Amanda Ripley, is back to give us a conflict resolution 101 guide and delve into some real-life examples from Abby and Glennon’s relationship. Discover: -The best way to diffuse a high-conflict person from going further; -The binary thinking that makes fighting with a spouse feel so painful–plus, the antidote; -How to disagree while still holding someone else’s perspective; and -Why it’s

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