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Whatever Comes Next with Tom Osman

Getting to know the music makers out on the fringes

On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more. tomosman.substack.com

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Episode 66: Blake Bickel (Bronson Arm)

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2025/04/22

Casket Schwagg is the second album by Kalamazoo, Michigan noise-rock duo Bronson Arm (released via Learning Curve Records on the 9th of May). Vocalist and baritone guitarist Blake Bickel returns to the show (both he and drummer Garrett Yates having appeared on episode 2) to discuss the latest album, touring and what noise rock means to him. Thanks to Curran at The Chain Closing track: "Casket Schwagg" Photo by J. LudekerFor all things Bronson Arm:bandcampInstagramCheck out my latest album

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Episode 65: Sludgebucket

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2025/04/15

Formed in the mid 2000s by Kelly Waldrip, Oakland, California's Sludgebucket have gone through many evolutions to reach the current heavy-fusion sound of their latest album Vampiric Earth. With the band now composed of Kelly on bass and Marc Kaufman on drums Vampiric Earth is a funky, heavy record full of slippery rhythms and clever instrumental interplay between the duo. Kelly and Marc join me to discuss the record, their inspirations and the history of Sludgebucket. Thanks to Kyle at Good Boy PR

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Episode64: Frankie Clarke (Frankie and The Studs)

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2025/04/08

Life's a Glitch is the debut record by rock 'n' roll group Frankie and The Studs (out now on Dead Beat Records) and the album marks the culmination of almost ten years of various songwriting sessions and lineups.Bandleader Frankie Clarke's music-making experience goes back even further and as the daughter of guitarist, singer and producer Gilby Clarke (who has recorded much of her band's work) she was already learning about life in the entertainment world before she ever recorded or performed

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Episode 63: Cartilage

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2025/04/01

San Francisco death-grind group Cartilage may look like a band of bloodthirsty psychopaths in their promotional photos, but it's all in good fun (if not good taste). Inspired by both the comedy and gore of classic splatter movies, as well as a broad range of extreme metal bands, Cartilage have been honing their sound (and on stage antics) for over ten years. Their latest EP Tales From The Entrails: A Necrology is out now on Italy's Everlasting Spew Records and given the gory themes and presentation

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Episode 62: Conan Neutron

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2025/03/25

Ten years ago, looking to start a new creative project, Conan Neutron brought a batch of untested song ideas to producer Toshi Kasai to see what might be done with them. Toshi suitably enthused, Conan quickly brought in Dale Crover on drums and Tony Ash on bass and Conan Neutron and The Secret Friends was born. With the band having just released their latest LP The Way of The Neutron (via Seismic Wave Entertainment) Conan joins me to discuss the album, songwriting, his podcast Conan Neutron's

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Episode 61: Venamoris

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2025/03/18

The musical backgrounds of Paula and Dave Lombardo could hardly be more different. A shy Canadian girl, Paula found herself playing large auditoriums as a teenage backing singer for Las Vegas showman Wayne Newton; Dave, a Cuban immigrant to the US, was already on his way to becoming a metal icon as drummer for Slayer by the time he reached his 20s. Venamoris is the couple's first musical collaboration, with Dave having helped Paula find a way back into music after an ultimately disillusioning move

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Episode 60: Stinking Lizaveta

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2025/03/11

Instrumental-rock trio Stinking Lizaveta have been making mind-warping, rhythmically-slippery, guitar-driven music together for over thirty years. Having sprung up from the West Philadelphia punk underground, the trio of guitarist Yanni Papadopoulos, his brother Alexi on electric upright bass and drummer Cheshire Agusta have continued to evolve their sound—most recently with 2023's Anthems and Phantoms. Now current label SRA Records has put out James-Plotkin-remastered versions of the band's first

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Episode 59: Dan St. Jacques (The Hammer Party, Landed)

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2025/03/04

Dan St. Jacques has proven himself to be a rock n' roll lifer. Coming up in the more experimental realms of alternative rock and post punk in Providence, Rhode Island, St. Jacques has featured in more bands than you have fingers.With St. Jacques' latest band The Hammer Party currently working on new material, the vocalist, and sometime bass player looks back on his musical upbringing and some of the bands he's played in, played with, or been inspired by.Closing track: Tiamat's Revenge (Psychic

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Episode 58: KARLA KVLT

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2025/02/25

Hamburg, Germany's KARLA KVLT blend the percussive power of early Swans, the doomy, droning proto-metal of Black Sabbath and the hypnotic tones of vocalist/ bassist Teresa Matilda Curtens (coming across like some kind of shoegaze/dream-pop singer, if the dream were apocalyptic). Father and son, guitarist (and former EISENVATER frontman) Markus E. Lipka and drummer Johann Wientjes (who also plays with wife Curtens in MELTING PALMS) join me to discuss Thunderhunter, the very different musical worlds

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Episode 57: Richard Johnson (Drugs of Faith,...

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2025/02/18

Richard Johnson's work in the underground music world stretches back to the early 90s. From his fanzine Disposable Underground (now an online music blog) to his early recording work with Enemy Soil, Johnson has spent plenty of time writing, performing and writing about music. Asymmetrical (released this Friday on Selfmadegod Records and Malokul) is the latest release (and first album in 14 years) from one of Johnson's current bands Drugs of Faith — and a blistering grind n' roll explosion it is too

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Episode 56: Mike Baggetta (mssv)

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2025/02/11

American guitarist, composer (and more recently singer) Mike Baggetta has been making music for over 20 years—whether as a sideman or lead songwriter. For his most recent project mssv (Main Steam Stop Valve) Baggetta brought in two of the best musicians you could reasonably hope to play with to realise his musical vision: Mike Watt (Minutemen, fIREHOSE, The Stooges, Porno For Pyros etc) on bass and Stephen Hodges (Tom Waits, David Lynch etc) on drums. The band's latest record On And On (out March

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Episode 55: Endless Dive

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2025/02/04

Formed as a four-piece ten years ago, Belgian, instrumental-rock group Endless Dive were reduced to the duo of Pierre Van Vlaenderen and Nathan Mondez prior to the making of their latest record Souvenances (released on the 28th of February, via Floral Records and Luik). Drawing together guitars, electronic textures and old, childhood VHS recordings, Souvenances is like a long-lost audio photo book discovered in an attic. Evocative and beautiful. Pierre and Nathan discuss the making of the record,

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Episode 54: OCRE

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2025/01/28

OCRE is Pierrick A. and Damien A., an alternative-rock duo based in Clermont Ferrand, France. On the 21st of February this year the band releases their debut, full-length record, So Often Lifeblood Comes From Ashes via Atypeek Music, Araki Records and Urgence Disk. Pierrick joins me to discuss the album, songwriting, how Covid influenced his vocal style, our shared love of Sonic Youth, his enduring relationship with Damien, Birds in Row, playing live and the necessary evils of social media.Photo

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Episode 53: Me (with Michael Quinn)

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2025/01/21

Last year I released Real Silence, an album of experimental-electro spoken word with Augurio Drama. My friend Michael Quinn suggested interviewing me about the album. I thought it would make for a fun episode of the podcast. So here's me being interviewed in my flat in Glasgow.Thanks to Existent/NonExistent for the artwork.Thanks to Sara Salomon for the graphic design. Check out Real Silence on Drama RecorderPodcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/ Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom

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Episode 52: Häxkapell

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2025/01/14

Häxkapell is a partly black metal project that incorporates folk, as well as other metal elements. Led by vocalist and multi-instrumentalist Oraklet, Om jordens blod och urgravens grepp is the second album from the project and released on Nordvis this Friday. Oraklet joins me to discuss the light and the dark of the latest record, his experiences with subconscious writing, growing up as a metalhead and some of his other musical projects.Photo credit: Ludvig SwärdClosing track: "Metamorfos" (Nordvis,

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Episode 51: Sleepbomb

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2025/01/07

San Francisco's Sleepbomb make heavy, psychedelic, atmospheric metal and lay this intense sonic landscape on top of iconic movies.Most recently the band has created a companion to scenes from George A. Romero's classic horror movie Night of the Living Dead, entitled The Sleeping Dead.With the 24th of January seeing the album's release on Koolarrow / Consouling Sounds, the band's Tim Gotch and Charlie Hernandez join me to discuss the album and some of their other compositions from Sleepbomb's two

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Episode 50: Michael Blenkarn-Durning (An Axis Of...

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2024/12/31

On the 13th of December, 2024 An Axis Of Perdition (the long-running highly-conceptual, extreme-metal project of Michael Blenkarn-Durning and Brooke Johnson) released their latest album Apertures on Apocalyptic Witchcraft Recordings. A couple of months earlier I caught up with Michael to reflect on the two parallel creative impulses that drive his music making—on the one hand the urban, industrialised mode that comes out in An Axis Of Perdition, alongside the fascination with the natural world that

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Episode 49: DUNN with LORDS AND LADY KEVIN

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2024/12/24

Last days at hot slit is the latest musical offering from former Cows bassist Kevin Rutmanis. Having started his own solo project during Covid lockdown (initially as Lord Kevin and His Slide Bass), Rutmanis has since collaborated with drummer/artist Gina Skwoz and multi-instrumentalist Trevor Dunn (of Mr Bungle and too many other projects to mention). The latest record is the first to feature all three of them together and they're altogether in this interview too … with me. And oh what a pleasure to

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Episode 48: Ian Lanspeary (Common Wounds)

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2024/12/17

All Night Blood is a powerful, fiery and emotive rock record by Phoenix, Arizona post-hardcore quintet Common Wounds (out now on Protagonist Music). While the record is the band's full-length debut, guitarist and vocalist Ian Lanspeary has been making music for over 20 years. We delve into Ian's musical upbringing, some of the many musical inspirations that found their way onto the latest record, songwriting and how the musical landscape has changed for independent artists over the past two decades

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Episode 47: Maura Pond (Luna Honey)

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2024/12/10

Maura Pond, Benjamin Schurr and Levi Flack have been releasing music together as Luna Honey for seven years. In that time they’ve released six studio albums, each of them its own unique sonic document. The latest record, Bound, is at times reminiscent of artists as diverse as Scott Walker, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Coil and Swans. In Luna-Honey land the tone is often dark, but there’s a playfulness and delight in absurdity, allowing the listener to have fun (even while feeling slightly unnerved).

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