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Design System Office Hours

Davy Fung + PJ Onori

Davy and PJ, design system practitioners talk about design-led product ownership, scaling and adoption, community and engagement, design system team models, and much more.

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00:27:25

Ep 58: World of Colour

Design System Office Hours ·

2024/07/17

Or aptly named, Color Complexity in Design by our GPT pal, Davy and PJ discuss the use or rather overuse of color in product design. When thinking about color in design systems, once again, less is most appropriate.

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00:37:17

Ep 57: Config 24 Recap

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2024/07/01

Fresh off 2 days of Config in-person conference, Davy talks with PJ about his time IRL, and talk about what they thought about feature releases, and what we might have expected.

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00:32:30

Ep 56: Design System Fatigue

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2024/06/25

Pre-Config episode, Davy and PJ follow up our last "Just Say No" episode with an ep about design system fatigue. As a service team, how do we maintain the good graces, and continue to help designers produce the best work. It all starts and ends with a design culture that promotes early communication with the your design system frens.

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00:33:48

Ep 55: Just Say No

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2024/06/04

When you're on a team of one, or fully staffed team with design and engineers, you'll soon have to shift some of your yes responses, to no. Davy and PJ talk how this at times trickles in through contributions, something that was an exciting concept in early days, but can get harder to manage as demand scales.

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00:31:53

Ep 54: Davy and PJisms

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2024/05/06

Davy and PJ go over their favorite Davy and PJisms, their versions of design principles that they have been following them around through several design roles over the years.

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00:42:54

Ep 53: Design Technologists, Again

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2024/04/16

We had such good traction on one of our first episodes, we decided to bring on another friend of the program, Donnie D'Amato to talk about design technologists, where they should sit in the org, and how we can use them as designers to be our best helping hand.

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00:29:07

Ep 52: Library Updates Available?

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2024/03/28

It's a design system emergency! Our updates are no longer behind a somewhat blocking dialog in Figma. Davy and PJ had to jump on to talk about how this may help or not receive and adopt new system changes.

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00:33:01

Ep 51: Rituals

Design System Office Hours ·

2024/03/06

Davy and PJ talk about the importance of standing up rituals, much like our product design partners, including, how might design system teams handle crits and office hours. How might a designer working at a Facebook leverage a feed, or a internal Facebook group, to share updates.

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00:31:26

Ep 50: IC vs PDM

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2024/02/16

We made it to our 2 year birthday and 50 episodes! We reflect in Davy's shift into back into IC at Meta, and PJ's shift from IC to Manager most recently at Pinterest, and how the roles differed for us in design systems.

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00:30:21

Ep 49: Finding Your First DS Job

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2024/01/30

Davy and PJ talk about how to get into your first DS job, the answer being things to know OTHER than building components. On the second half of the pod, we flip to how to get into DS as a discipline as a product designer.

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00:23:37

Ep 48: 2023 Year in Review

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2024/01/08

As we approach 2 years, and 50 episodes, we recap this year and dive back into how AI changed some of our thinking this year, as well as what we would like to see out of the design systems practice in 2024.Episode Transcripts

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00:29:50

Ep 47: Evaluating Outside Design Perspectives

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2023/12/19

One theme that has been our mind working in large mega design teams, is how our product design teams handle outside, external POV, vs historical cannon. Davy and PJ discuss this, weaved in with how we like to evaluate potential solutions for our systems. Episode Transcripts

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00:28:46

Ep 46: Tooling

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2023/11/28

With convos of relying on external services such as design system docs sites, Figma plugins, or analytics, we talk about our experience working in large teams with funding to build our own, vs utilizing third party services that can simply get you up and running immediately. Episode Transcript

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00:27:32

Ep 45: Reactive vs Proactive Support

Design System Office Hours ·

2023/11/08

Davy and PJ talk a little more in depth about support and the dangers of being a purely reactive design system team. How do you handle requests, and how to operate the program during times of duress. Episode Transcripts

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00:24:52

Ep 44: Design Systems Team of One

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2023/10/16

Listener question: DS team of one, and how to keep afloat and keep the program going. We touch on what you might want to focus on, and getting help as soon as you can so you can scale. Episode Transcripts

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00:35:00

Ep 43: Complexity

Design System Office Hours ·

2023/09/28

We are back in your lives with a normal 1:1 with Davy and PJ about design system complexities, and how you might want to consider a system with less tokens, variants, and what it's like for Davy to manage 149 components on web alone. Episode Transcripts

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00:40:07

Ep 42: Accessibility x Design Systems w/ Cintia Romero

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2023/09/15

We have a friend of the program, Cintia Romero from Pinterest to talk about her work leading the accessibility design and education programs that has been now consumed by hundreds of designers. You can view the Pinterest docs site at:https://gestalt.pinterest.systems/

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00:52:47

Ep 41: @cobradave + @disco_lu Twitter Space

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2023/09/05

Recorded with @disco_lu a few months ago, Davy and Luis go rapid-fire on various design system hiring, component-building philosophies, and training. See below for timestamps. (1:25): How Davy got started in DS (6:00): Package my narrative as DS designer (7:00): How to posture yourself to obtain your ideal position (8:34): How to utilize existing job postings internally mentioning DS to get into your ideal position (11:43): Davy’s way to cope with current layoffs (13:05): Shift to more community in

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00:32:55

Ep 40: Move Fast

Design System Office Hours ·

2023/08/17

Happy 40th episode birthday. We talk about moving fast vs designing and building with intentionality, and naturally the convo led morphed into a half episode about ways of partnering with product designers, and how we work on our systems at Meta and Pinterest. Episode Transcripts

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00:33:42

Ep 39: Do You Need a DS?

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2023/07/31

With DS being table stakes on lots of product design teams, and even job postings, we talk about whether you need one, or whether your efforts should be scaled elsewhere. What are you really getting yourself into when you start this journey.. Episode Transcripts

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