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The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

The Money Trench

The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by Sound On and Tixel. Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, including their thoughts on where we’re at and where we’re heading. Now, TMT is here to look at all sides of the

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55:30

TMT:37 Louis Posen On What it Means to be Punk and...

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2025/03/24

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary punk rock executive, Louis Posen, founder of Hopeless Records. This week, Mark catches up with Louis in Los Angeles during Musexpo week to reflect on 30 years of independent label life, how Hopeless started as a dare, the realities of the modern streaming economy, and what it really means to stay punk in a changing industry. Louis also shares how losing his eyesight at 19 shaped his approach to life and business, why he still

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59:03

TMT:36 Nick Stewart on Why Artists Struggle To Make...

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2025/03/17

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by a 30 year veteran of the music industry, The Colonel, Nick Stewart.During their conversation they discuss the latest in the industry, including the financial polarisation of artists, how UK bands may be back on the rise and Nick explains why he thinks some genres are more valuable asset investments than others. Nick also delves into the details of his career, sharing his experiences working at the famed Island Records, working with artists

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54:12

TMT:35 Dr Charisse Beaumont on the Music Industry’s...

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2025/03/10

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Dr Charisse Beaumont, CEO of Black Lives In Music. Discussing one of the biggest issues in the music industry, Charisse explains the need for everyone to step up when it comes to diversity, and for us all to come together to make a real difference. She also explores the idea of embracing new technologies such as AI, and even using them to tackle issues such as diversity and inclusion. From starting out in the telecommunications industry, to

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55:58

TMT:34 Kate Nash on Why OnlyFans Pays Better than...

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2025/03/03

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by singer-songwriter Kate Nash. Digging into the current state of the music industry, Kate discusses everything from the harsh realities of touring costs, why she turned to OnlyFans, and the growing challenges artists face to making a sustainable living. From performing in the Houses of Parliament to using her voice for activism, Kate discusses finding spaces where she can make an impact. She also reflects on the enduring legacy of her hit

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52:34

TMT:33 Steve Tannett on Marshall’s Rock Revolution &...

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2025/02/24

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Steve Tannett, Director of Platforms at Marshall Group.From his punk roots to a career spanning multiple sides of the music industry, Steve looks back over his career - moving from musician to label executive, publisher, and manager. He talks about rock’s lasting cultural impact, his work with artists like R.E.M., The Go-Go’s, and Ginger Baker, and the lessons he learned from I.R.S. Records boss Miles Copeland. Steve also reflects on the

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TMT:32 Kwame Kwaten on The Future of Artist...

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2025/02/17

Welcome to The Money Trench! In this episode, Mark is joined by manager, record producer and director of Ferocious Talent, Kwame Kwaten. As well as catching up on the latest in the industry, including the Kanye controversy and canceled Oasis tickets, Kwame shares his perspective on the ever-evolving role of a manager in music, the responsibilities they're now having to take on, and what new deals should look like. The conversation also looks back on Kwame's long career in the business, including

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60:53

TMT:31 Peter Leathem on PPL’s Blockbuster Revenues, ...

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2025/02/10

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Peter Leathem, CEO of PPL.As well as catching up on the week’s news, including Grammy highlights and mental health provisions from labels, Peter shares his journey with PPL, discussing the changes he’s implemented and the successes he’s achieved in shaping the company’s role in the music industry. The conversation covers how PPL continues to innovate in the music space and navigate challenges such as the DCMS committee inquiry. Beyond his

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60:41

TMT:30 Sammy Andrews on the Music Industry’s Tech...

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2025/02/03

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by the CEO of Deviate Digital, Sammy Andrews.Catching up at Tileyard Studios, the conversation covers the latest news on streaming services, the future of artificial intelligence within the industry, and thoughts on misogyny in music. Sammy also shares her journey into the industry, from becoming a touring manager for Ginger Wildheart to working with The Prodigy and Annie Lennox. She explains why she adopts new technologies early and

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57:19

TMT:29 Luke Pritchard of The Kooks on the TikTok Ban,...

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2025/01/27

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark catches up with the lead singer of The Kooks, Luke Pritchard.Throughout their chat, the pair discuss the latest in the music industry, including the TikTok ban and what it means for artists, the impact of AI, and more on the Los Angeles Wildfires. Luke also talks through some of the difficulties facing young artists today and what the industry needs to do to support them, as well as sharing stories of his journey to success - including working on

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60:47

TMT:28 Ruth Barlow (LIVE at ESNS) on Indie Labels...

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2025/01/20

Welcome to The Money Trench! In this special live episode at this year's ESNS conference in Groningen, Mark is joined by Ruth Barlow from Beggars and AIM.Ruth shares stories from her journey in the music industry, from her early days at Xfm to her current role at Beggars Group and AIM. She chats about how the indie sector is feeling the squeeze, the impact of big deals like Universal’s move on PIAS, and what it all means for independent labels. We're also treated to stories from her time working

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TMT:27 Andy Saunders on Creation Records’ Golden...

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2025/01/13

Welcome to The Money Trench. In the first episode of 2025, Mark is joined by Andy Saunders, legendary PR and founder of Velocity Communications.Digging into the latest industry news, Andy shares his thoughts on the music industry's current state, including record-breaking UK music consumption and the pros and cons of dynamic ticket pricing. Reflecting on his career, he takes us behind the scenes at Creation Records during its mid-‘90s heyday, working alongside Alan McGee. He shares stories of

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56:33

TMT:26 Julie Weir on the State of Rock Music, Signing...

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2024/12/16

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Julie Weir, Director of Sony’s Music For Nations.Catching up at Sony HQ, Mark & Julie’s conversation digs into the behind the scenes of the rock & alternative industry - discussing running Julie's independent label, Visible Noise, the challenges of touring new acts, and how she is trying to fight the US industry domination. She also looks back on signing a young Bring Me The Horizon, reflecting on why they were so successful, and

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59:55

TMT:25 Steve Homer on Why Concert Tickets Are So...

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2024/12/09

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Steve Homer, CEO of AEG Presents.Throughout the conversation, Steve shares his insights on hot topics like the grassroots ticket levy, festival shutdowns and openings, and the ever-changing world of dynamic ticket pricing. Steve gives his thoughts and opinions as a man very much in the middle of it all! He also reflects on his journey into live music promotion, recounting memorable stories such as bringing Eminem to the UK for the

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58:31

TMT:24 Miranda Sawyer on Britpop beyond Blur Vs...

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2024/12/02

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by author, journalist and fellow podcaster, Miranda Sawyer.Exploring themes from her new book, Uncommon People: Britpop and Beyond in 20 Songs, the conversation digs into Britpop’s enduring legacy, moving past the Blur vs. Oasis rivalry into stories about Pulp, Suede, and more, while also examining how the era’s stars coped with sudden fame. Miranda also reflects on her journey into music journalism, from landing her first role at Smash

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TMT:23 Mark Davyd on How the Arena Ticket Levy Will...

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2024/11/25

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Mark Davyd, CEO and founder of Music Venue Trust.Catching up shortly after his front-page appearance with Katy Perry, the conversation highlights the growing international support for the Music Venue Trust, with backing from global stars and prominent UK artists. The conversion digs into the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport (DCMS) committee’s report on introducing an arena ticket levy, emphasizing the critical role

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TMT:22 Shabs Jobanputra on How His Refugee Background...

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2024/11/18

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Shabs Jobanputra, founder and president of Relentless Records. Catching up at Sony HQ, Shabs shares his journey into the music industry, reflecting on the challenges he faced as an immigrant and recounting the early days of Relentless Records. He discusses the label's first signings and its evolution over the years, offering insights into both its successes and the pressures from the U.S. market. The conversation also touches on the

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64:04

TMT:21 Lucas Keller on the UK’s Producer and Writer...

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2024/11/11

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Lucas Keller, founder and president of Milk & Honey Management.Catching up after two nights of industry awards and the morning after the U.S. election, Lucas digs into some of the most pressing issues facing his clients. The conversation covers navigating complex deals with multiple songwriters, the ongoing battle for fair streaming rights, and recent changes at Milk & Honey, including their expansion into athlete management. Lucas

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TMT:20 Robert Swerdlow on Protecting Artists, The...

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2024/11/04

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by Robert Swerdlow, of Starwood Management. With over 25 years of management experience, Robert discusses the challenges artists face today and his role in protecting them - from issues around selling copyright to the complexities of the digital entertainment industry’s close ties with music. The conversation also touches on the pros and cons of ticket touting, his experiences working with artists like The La’s, Michael Kiwanuka, and

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TMT:19 Gee Davy on the AI Licensing Battle, UMG...

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2024/10/28

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by AIM interim-CEO, Gee Davy.Digging into the latest industry news, Gee shares her insights on the Merlin-TikTok licensing developments and GEMA's advancements in AI music licensing. As well as discussing the journey of her winding career, from engineer, to lawyer and now Aim interim CEO, the conversation also covers the impact of Universal taking on PIAS, and the latest from the streaming renumeration group. NEWSLETTER Sign up HERE for

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TMT:18 Caroline Elleray and Mark Gale on Signing...

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2024/10/20

Welcome to The Money Trench. In this episode, Mark is joined by two of the most influential music publishing execs of the last 30 years, Caroline Elleray and Mark Gale, co-founders of Second Songs. Caroline and Mark give us an in-depth look at their storied careers in the music industry, sharing the details behind starting Second Songs publishing and management, the dynamics behind working as both business partners and a married couple, and what the future looks like for the company. The

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