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The Cult Next Door

The Cult Next Door

Hosted by Mattie Lasiter and Ashleigh Teeter, siblings who were separated for more than 25 years due to the shadow of their shared past.Their father, a charismatic but enigmatic figure, led a cult that consumed the lives of its members, leaving their family torn apart and forbidden from contact.They have reunited to share their journey with you while unravelling the haunting tales of cults from around the world, shedding light on the warning signs that can help prevent others from falling into their

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Ep.34: "All Of The Magic"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/06/26

In Episode 34 of The Cult Next Door Podcast, titled "All Of The Magic," former member Blake Moorer returns to discuss the harrowing intensity of "The Love Move" within Crusade Church. Blake reveals how "The Love Move" was becoming increasingly physical in nature, with the leader introducing new revelations from God that starkly contradicted the Bible and the church's long-standing teachings.Blake shares the pivotal moments and revelations that led him and his family to ultimately break free from the

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65:43

Ep.33: When Religion Hurts You: with Dr. Laura E....

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/06/19

In episode 33 of The Cult Next Door Podcast, "When Religion Hurts You: with Dr. Laura E. Anderson", hosts Mattie and Ashleigh welcome first time guest Dr. Laura Anderson to the CND conversation. Dr. Anderson is a psychotherapist, trauma resolution and recovery coach, educator, and creator who specializes in complex trauma with a focus on domestic violence, sexualized violence and religious trauma. She is the founder and director of the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery, an online coaching

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Ep.32: "A Demon Named Pretense"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/06/12

In Episode 32 of The Cult Next Door Podcast, titled "A Demon Named Pretense," Michael "Sandy" Sandow concludes his harrowing account of life within Crusade Church. Sandy describes the escalating paranoia of the leader, who began sharing increasingly frequent and bizarre visions and prophecies he claimed were from God. The leader insisted that high-ranking demons, and even Satan himself, were trying to kill him, revealing the depths of his delusions.Sandy also speaks about the shifting attitudes

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Ep.31: "Cloaks of Humility"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/06/05

In Episode 31 of The Cult Next Door Podcast, titled "Cloaks of Humility," hosts Mattie and Ashleigh are joined once again by former Crusade Church member Michael "Sandy" Sandow. Sandy recounts the early days of "The Love Move" and the increasingly uncomfortable positions that members found themselves in as the movement gained momentum.The episode delves into the cult leader's insistent push for "The Love Move," urging members to disregard appearances and embrace a new level of physical intimacy that

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Ep.30: "Let Us Love On You"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/05/22

In the concluding chapter of Chelsie's Crusade Church saga, Ep.30 "Let Us Love On You" of The Cult Next Door Podcast, Chelsie recounts a chilling encounter with Pastor Larry. In a final attempt to lure her back to the church, Larry invites Chelsie to meet in his home, cloaking his manipulation in a guise of concern, love and affection.As Chelsie describes the unsettling meeting & the seeminly new direction the church has taken, listeners are drawn into her growing sense of unease and the

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Ep.29: "Never Good Enough"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/05/15

In a gripping continuation of Chelsie's journey, Ep.29: "Never Good Enough delves deeper into the events leading up to her eventual exit and the aftermath of her departure from Crusade Church and the painful repercussions that followed. As Chelsie confronts the harsh reality of being ostracized by friends and family, listeners are invited to witness her resilience and determination to forge a new path forward.Chelsie shares the emotional toll of losing her support network and grappling with feelings

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Ep.28: "The Devil's Playground"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/05/08

In "The Devil's Playground," listeners are drawn into the harrowing tale of teenage romance turned catastrophic within the confines of Crusade Church and the Lasiter Family. This installment serves as a companion piece to Episode 8, "Forty Days & Forty Nights," offering a new perspective on the events previously recounted by co-host Mattie.Chelsie Ryan, the teenage girl at the center of the storm, steps forward to share her firsthand account of the enduring impact these events have had on her

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Ep.27: Embracing the Self: Enneagram Insights

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/05/01

In episode 27 of The Cult Next Door Podcast, titled "Embracing the Self: Enneagram Insights," hosts Mattie and Ashleigh continue their eye opening conversation with Lindsay Taylor, LMFT, in Part 2 of this enlightening 2 part series. This episode delves into the themes of self-awareness and emotional health within the context of high control groups.The discussion begins with Lindsay explaining the importance of recognizing and expressing our emotions, particularly anger, as a healthy part of

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Ep.26: Inside the Enneagram: Understanding Cult...

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/04/24

In episode 26 of The Cult Next Door Podcast, titled “Inside the Enneagram: Understanding Cult Influence”, hosts Mattie and Ashleigh dive into the world of cults and undue influence with Lindsay Taylor, LMFT, who brings her expertise in utilizing the Enneagram within her counseling practice. In Part 1 of this two part series, Lindsay sheds light on how susceptibility to high control groups intersects with Enneagram types, highlighting the connections between personality traits and vulnerability to

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Ep.25: "Red Flags"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/04/17

In the gripping follow-up to "Snake Oil Salesman," Ep.25 "Red Flags" continues David's narrative as he grapples with the aftermath of uncovering the true nature of Pastor Larry and the toxic environment within Crusade Church.With a newfound sense of clarity, David embarks on a journey of liberation, determined to navigate the treacherous waters of disillusionment and rebuild his life outside the confines of the church. He recounts the emotional turmoil and challenges he faced in coming to terms with

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Ep.24: "Snake Oil Salesman"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/04/10

In Episode 24 of The Cult Next Door Podcast, titled "Snake Oil Salesman," hosts Mattie, and Ashleigh delve into David Brown's personal journey within the confines of Crusade Church. Initially, David had believed the pastor to be a brother in need of support and encouragement, but over time, he came to a startling realization.Through introspection and observation, David uncovers the true nature of the pastor: a malignant narcissist adept at manipulating the emotions and beliefs of his entire

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Ep.23: Q&A w/ Ashleigh & Mattie

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/04/03

In episode 23 of "The Cult Next Door Podcast," hosts Mattie and Ashleigh tackle listener questions, offering insights into personal experiences with cults and the psychology behind group dynamics. They also provide a glimpse into what's to come in Season 2, promising discussions on charismatic leaders and manipulation within cults. With their informative yet engaging approach, the podcast continues to shed light on the intriguing world of cults.

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Season 2: Coming Soon

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/01/31

Season 2 coming April 2024! - Season 1 is complete & now Ashleigh & Mattie will be prepping and recording for Season 2. Stay tuned for more updates & be sure to follow us on Instagram & Tiktok for videos from upcoming episodes!

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Ep.22: "Call Me Big Daddy"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/01/24

In the riveting conclusion of David Brown's narrative on "The Cult Next Door Podcast," hosts Mattie Lasiter and Ashleigh Teeter present the episode titled "Call Me Big Daddy." This installment explores David's tenure as a member and minister in Crusade Church, unraveling the façade of the charismatic leader, and exposing the control within the cult's family dynamics.Listeners are drawn into the final chapter of David's journey as he shares his experiences within Crusade Church, shedding light on the

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Ep.21: "The Lone Prophet"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/01/17

In a compelling continuation of David Brown's story, "The Cult Next Door Podcast" presents "The Lone Prophet." We unravel the complexities of David's journey from Worldwide Church of God to a mainstream Christian church, only to be drawn back into Armstrongism and eventually becoming a member and minister in Crusade Church.Listeners are immersed in David's recounting of the conditioning that shaped his path, exploring the twists and turns that led him from one religious community to another.The

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Ep.20: "Exploited, Manipulated & Poisoned"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/01/10

In a gripping and deeply introspective episode of "The Cult Next Door Podcast," hosts Mattie Lasiter and Ashleigh Teeter are joined by special guest David Brown, a former member of both Worldwide Church of God and Crusade Church. Titled "Exploited, Manipulated & Poisoned," this installment delves into David's harrowing journey, exploring the extreme narcissistic abuse he endured within his own family and the subsequent 12 years spent as a member and minister in the destructive Christian cult,

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93:52

Ep.19: "Something's Wrong With Liz"

The Cult Next Door ·

2024/01/03

In a revealing and emotionally charged episode of "The Cult Next Door Podcast," hosts Mattie and Ashleigh Teeter, along with special guest Liz Lasiter, lay bare the intricacies of Liz and Mattie's courtship and engagement within the family cult. Titled "Something's Wrong With Liz," this episode explores the family enmeshment that permeated every aspect of their lives and the erosion of privacy within the tightly knit community.The episode unfolds with Liz and Mattie sharing intimate details of their

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Ep.18: "Cower & Obey"

The Cult Next Door ·

2023/12/27

In a deeply personal and introspective episode, "The Cult Next Door Podcast" takes a closer look at the yet untold story of Liz Lasiter, the wife of co-host Mattie Lasiter, in an episode aptly titled "Cower & Obey." Hosts Mattie and Ashleigh Teeter sit down with Liz as she bravely recounts her entrance into the cult and the profound impact it had on her life, identity, and relationship with Mattie.The episode begins with Liz sharing the circumstances that led her into the clutches of the cult,

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Ep.17: "The Mask Slips"

The Cult Next Door ·

2023/12/20

In the riveting sequel to "Prince Sandstorm," "The Cult Next Door Podcast" brings back former Crusade Church member Michael "Sandy" Sandow in the episode titled "The Mask Slips." Hosts Mattie Lasiter and Ashleigh Teeter continue their exploration of Sandy's journey, this time focusing on his experiences in Arkansas after becoming enmeshed in the intricate web of Crusade Church.Listeners are invited to delve into the dynamics within the church, gaining insight into the expectations placed on members

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Ep.16: "Prince Sandstorm"

The Cult Next Door ·

2023/12/13

"The Cult Next Door Podcast" welcomes former Crusade Church member Michael Sandow to the microphone in the episode titled "Prince Sandstorm." Hosts Mattie Lasiter and Ashleigh Teeter guide listeners through Michael's remarkable journey from a career in the film business to a transformative detox in his father's California home, ultimately leading him to the doors of Crusade Church.Listeners gain insights into the challenges Michael faced, including a personal struggle with drugs that prompted a

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