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Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks

BKBT Productions

Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks is the tech podcast about humans. Hosted by George K and George A, this podcast examines AI, infrastructure, technology adoption, and the broader implications of tech developments through both guest interviews and news commentary.Our guests bring honest perspectives on what"s working, what"s broken, and new ways to examine the roles and impacts of technology in our lives.We challenge conventional tech industry narratives and dig into real-world consequences over hype

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4:46

RSAC 2025 Preview!

Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks ·

2025/04/28

George K and George A are off to San Francisco for RSAC 2025 this week. Here are some short musings on what they think they might see...Mentioned: Chase Cunningham has built an app that lets you rank vendor demos in real time! If you'd like to join the effort, you can do so here: https://10ringvendors.glide.page

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45:15

From Hacker to Founder, and Cybersecurity's Future

Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks ·

2025/04/21

“When you look at cybersecurity…we've got to be constantly thinking about how we disrupt ourselves in order to actually solve the problem."Casey Ellis is a hacker, a founder, and an advisor and investor. Occupying a lot of different vantage points in cyber has given him a very unique perspective on the industry.George K and George A talk to Casey about: How Casey went from hacker to solution architect to entrepreneur, creating a marketplace that connects ethical hackers with companies who need them

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43:01

Why Great CISOs Are Never Bored

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2025/04/14

Jake Bernardes, CISO at Anecdotes, brings a uniquely adventurous spirit to this week’s show! And his ethos of “Don’t be an a**hole” is certainly one we can get behind.George K and George A talk to Jake about: Jake's "inherent risk-taker" philosophy that's guided his career moves Why the best CISOs are "repulsed by the idea of being bored" and how that drives innovation The changing face of security leadership - from risk-averse consultants to today’s disruptive problem solvers His refreshingly

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32:43

Best of Episode!

Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks ·

2025/04/07

George K and George A are out this week to keynote SecureWorld Toronto and host the Cyber Pitch Battle Royale. Catch up on interviews you may have missed with: Stacey Lokey-Day on collecting experiences to build your career Candace Williams on the keys to networking Allan Alford on the best ways vendors can engage with CISOs and ensure they stay in good graces Jessica Andree on how to build loyalty and performance through better talent acquisition Kate Wood on the top 3 pieces of advice for

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31:49

Continuous Red Teaming in the AI Era

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2025/03/31

This week, Ads Dawson, Staff AI Security Researcher at Dreadnode, joins the show to talk all things AI Red Teaming!George K and George A talk to Ads about: The reality of securing #AI model development pipelines Why cross-functional expertise is critical when securing AI systems How to approach continuous red teaming for AI applications (hint: annual pen tests won't cut it anymore) Practical advice for #cybersecurity pros looking to skill up in AI securityWhether you're a CISO trying to navigate

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44:37

How Building Talent Creates Loyalty and Business Value

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2025/03/24

Ever wondered why cybersecurity hiring is broken? Jessica's flipping the script with a revolutionary approach to talent acquisition and development!George K and George A talk to Jessica about: How she transformed the company’s hiring by focusing on building talent rather than looking for unicorns or perfect fits Why asking "Why are you here?" is her #1 interview question (and what she learns from it) How her military background shaped her approach to servant leadership Their "strange renegades"

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32:15

Trust, Risk, and AI: On the Cybersecurity Decisions...

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2025/03/17

This week, researcher Kate Wood from Info-Tech joins the show to talk about the future of security autonomization with AI.George K and George A talk to Kate about: The reality of AI adoption in security beyond marketing hype (and where the hallucinations are still problematic) Modernizing vendor risk management beyond checkbox exercises A fascinating framework for "autonomization" vs. automation - and understanding your tolerance for AI decision-making at operational, tactical and strategic

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40:26

Lessons from 25 Years in Cyber, from Corporate to...

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2025/03/10

This week we talk to Allan Alford talking about his 25 years journey from CISO to startups to consulting and now his return back to corporate America!George K and George A talk to Allan about: His wild career journey - and what motivated his most recent career decision His new gig at NTT Global Data Centers, and why data centers are the next hot thing in security The truly global scope of his new gig Why people and process beat technology EVERY time - even in tech companies!Allan also drops some

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49:06

How Cyber Marketing Teams Can Better Understand and...

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2025/03/03

This week Jeanette Belashov, of Anvilogic, joins the show to talk about smarter and more authentic cybersecurity marketing.George K and George A talk to Jeanette about: Why the lead gen MQL mindset is total BS and hurts both your strategy AND your buyers Using selling signals instead of vanity metrics to actually help your sales team connect with the right accounts at the right time about the right use case Why marketers MUST get their hands dirty with the product and spend time understanding the

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43:52

World Domination, the Process, and Gaining Real World...

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2025/02/24

The unstoppable Tennisha Martin joins the show this week! The Executive Director of BlackGirlsHack digs into what it really takes to build diverse cybersecurity talent pipelines in today's challenging environment.George K and George A talk to Tennisha about: How BGH is using AI and hands-on labs to teach real-world hacking skills Why traditional education often falls short on practical cybersecurity training The economic barriers keeping talented people out of tech careers Building sustainable

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32:04

From Help Desk to Detection Engineering, and Finding...

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2025/02/17

New episode drop! This week Chloe Burton joins us to talk about her journey from IT Help Desk to Head of Detection Engineering.George K and George A talk to Chloe about: How she used a foray into Splunk to learn and launch her career Why "more alerts" doesn't equal better security Her views on consulting as a career accelerator in cyber How she looks for and mentors new talentIf you're tired of the "more alerts = more security" mindset or wondering how to break into cybersecurity from a

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37:58

Authentic Networking and Using Your Voice

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2025/02/10

Candace Williams, security leader, joins the show to talk about what ACTUALLY matters in networking and professional development in cybersecurity. No BS, just real talk from someone who's lived it.George K and George A talk to Candace about: Why your internal barriers are often bigger than external ones The truth about transactional networking (spoiler: it doesn't work) Why chasing certs and being a “paper tiger” might not get you the job (and what will!) Why preparation beats perfection when

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29:28

Breaking into Cyber, Finding Your Why, and Making the...

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2025/02/03

Kenneth Ellington returns, one year later to talk about the changes from leaving his corporate gig to work for himself.George K and George A talk to Kenneth about: How he's balancing running a cybersecurity academy, staffing agency, AND active security work Real talk about the challenges of building business processes from scratch Brutally honest advice about job hunting in cyber Why job opportunities still exist in cyber - but you need the right mindset Contract work vs full-time

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59:39

GRC Engineering: The Manifesto and Beyond!

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2025/01/27

This week we dive into GRC Engineering with Justin Pagano, Emre Ugurlu, and returning guest Terra Cooke, three of minds behind the new GRC Engineering Manifesto.We tackle: Why GRC folks are engineers (yes, really!) Moving beyond "legacy GRC" into systems thinking Building GRC tools that engineers actually want to use The intersection of AI and compliance automationThis one gets nerdy! But if you want to understand how modern organizations can take a systems-based approach to governance while

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42:28

Cybersecurity for the Food Supply Chain

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2025/01/20

Kristin Demoranville joins the show this week to talk securing the food supply chain as critical infrastructure, incidents’ effect on the global economy, representation in ICS/OT, and more!George K and George A talk to Kristin about: Dispelling misconceptions about OT security The food industry as critical infrastructure The need for more diverse voices in OT/ICS security to drive innovation and better solutions How to break into OT securityPlus some raw honesty about being a woman founder in

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45:25

Career Pivots and Forging Your Own Cyber Journey with...

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2025/01/13

This week, Stacey Lokey-Day joins the show to talk about her career pivot from stay-at-home mom to cybersecurity analyst!George K & George A talk to Stacey about: How she leveraged a bootcamp experience into a successful career pivot Why she believes in "collecting experiences" early in your career, even the tough ones How her time in the SOC built up her resilience and confidence Finding your voice, and owning who you are in techThe lessons from her story are valuable to anyone, at any

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31:58

LIVE from Cyber Marketing Con: What "Community"...

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2025/01/06

"Community" is getting bandied about a lot. What does it really mean, for both cybersecurity vendors and practitioners? This week's episode is a roundtable discussion recorded LIVE at Cyber Marketing Con in December 2024! The panel features Dani Woolf, Ben Siegel, Bronwen Hudson, Elliot Volkman, and BKBT's George K.Some key topics covered: Community is not something you can just spend money on. Successful communities are affecting change. You can't expect instant ROI from community building. Be

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3:08

Happy New Year from BKBT!

Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks ·

2024/12/30

HAPPY NEW YEAR from BKBT! to you and yours! We have big plans...We hope you have a peaceful New Year's, and we're wishing you all the prosperity for 2025!😳 We still can't believe we won Cybersecurity Podcast of the Year at the SANS Difference Maker Awards!Keep the celebration going with 30% off all orders from the BKBT Swag Shop. Discount will automatically be applied to all orders over $25, thru Dec 31st!Shop today: https://bkbtpodcast.shopThanks for all the support over the years, we appreciate

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2:32

Happy Holidays from BKBT!

Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks ·

2024/12/23

Happy holidays from BKBT to you and yours! Enjoy the time, and may be it restful, relaxing, and free of critical open-source vulns.😳 We still can't believe we won Cybersecurity Podcast of the Year at the SANS Difference Maker Awards!Keep the celebration going with 30% off all orders from the BKBT Swag Shop. Discount will automatically be applied to all orders over $25, thru Dec 31st!Shop today: https://bkbtpodcast.shopThanks for all the support over the years, we appreciate you!

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40:00

Best Of: Don Jeter, Lauren Palmer, Andrew Owlett, and...

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2024/12/16

As 2024 comes to close, we revisit some of the most listened to episodes in Season 3 so far! Don Jeter, CMO at Torq talks about breaking through the noise, and how to stand out in a market full of boring B2B copycats Lauren Palmer talks about why Sales is a profession people should be proud of, and how to build teams that don't abuse trust Andrew Owlett, global cybersecurity executive, explores how to tell the story of your career and your skills Michelle Eggers, pentester, talks about how she

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