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Anchor Change with Katie Harbath

Welcome to Anchor Change, where we help you panic responsibly in a chaotic world. I’m Katie Harbath—a Midwesterner living in DC who’s spent two decades navigating impossible tradeoffs at the intersection of tech, politics, and democracy. Each week, I’ll break down the headlines, talk with people forging bold paths, and explore how we can face disruption with clarity and courage. This isn’t about hot takes—it’s about finding steady ground when everything feels uncertain. In a world of complexity,

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Digital Campaigning in 2024: Insights from the...

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/10/03

We’re back! Thanks again to everyone for your understanding of my gap week.In this episode, Amanda Elliott and Kyle Tharp, both newsletter writers focused on digital politics, discuss their experiences and insights into the evolving landscape of political campaigning. They explore the impact of digital strategies, fundraising, and the role of social media platforms like TikTok in reaching voters. The discussion also touches on the differences in approach between the Republican and Democratic

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No podcast this week

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/09/26

Good morning. Due to some scheduling changes, I don’t have a podcast for this week. Thank you for understanding.If you are new to the pod, I recommend you check out the archives. Some of the more popular episodes include:* A conversation with Renee DiResta about her book Invisible Rulers* Dave Willner on the evolution of trust and safety in tech - and use of AI for content moderation* Yoel Roth on making hard tradeoffs and the future of trust and safetyHave a great day and thank you for

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46:42

AI and Human Rights: A Balancing Act

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/09/19

We’re back! Welcome to season three of Impossible Tradeoffs. This season will focus mainly on the U.S. election, how the campaigns use tech, how tech companies respond, and what people outside the United States are watching.First up is Paolo Carozza, a member of the Meta Oversight Board and law professor at Notre Dame. Earlier this week, the Oversight Board released a report on using AI in content moderation.In this conversation, we discuss the complexities of content moderation, particularly in the

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29:04

The Importance of Diverse Voices in Tech

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/08/08

I’ve got another special episode of the Summer Spectacular podcast for you with my good friend Emi Kolawole. Emi has 10 years of experience in communications, design, and tech. In our conversation, she shares her insights from attending the Aspen Ideas Festival and the Socrates program. She highlights the importance of including diverse voices, particularly women and minorities, in the conversations around artificial intelligence (AI) and technology. Emi also discusses the need for more intentional

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30:55

Perspectives on Trust and Safety Among Investors

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/07/18

Ahead of TrustCon next week, I wanted to bring you a conversation I’ve been trying to set up since Duco released the Trust and Safety Market Research Report in March.Guests, investors Lauren Wagner and Shu Dar Yao, join me to discuss their involvement in the report and the reasons behind it. They highlight key takeaways from the report, such as the unbundling of the tech stack in trust and safety and the impact of regulations and talent outflow. The conversation also touched on the trends in the

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38:32

Debrief on the India and EU Elections Online

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/06/20

I’ll admit, I wasn’t expecting to do my first Summer Spectacular episode quite this quickly. However, when Saurabh Shukla with NewsMobile pinged me on WhatsApp to offer to talk about what had happened in the Indian election, I jumped at the chance. I then saw former Integrity Institute resident fellow Alexis Crews post about her work in the EU, and I knew I had to include her as well.In our conversation, we discuss the role of social media and digital platforms in the elections, the use of AI for

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42:50

Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/06/13

Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube!This is the last episode of season 2! Thank you all for listening. I’ll be taking a break over the summer and returning with season 3 in the Fall. Between now and then, I might be planning a few summer spectacular episodes, so keep your eyes out.I couldn’t have asked for a better person to end the season with. Renee DiResta joins me this week to discuss her background and journey into researching the anti-vaccine movement, the impact of social media on public

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44:57

Building Election Fact Checking Coalitions

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/06/06

Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube!This week Claire Wardle and Daniel Bramatti discuss their work in creating fact-checking coalitions around elections as a follow up to the guide we published back in April. They highlight the importance of collaboration and trust-building among news organizations and social media platforms. They also discuss the challenges they faced in handling misinformation during elections, such as dealing with blackouts and coordinating with tech companies. They emphasize

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43:05

Don't Listen to Us

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/05/30

Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube!I’m so honored to have my good friend and expert extraordinaire Kat Duffy as my guest this week. I have no words other than you should listen to everything she says.SummaryKat Duffy, a senior fellow for digital and cyberspace policy at the Council on Foreign Relations, discusses her work in the trust and safety space and her role in leading the Trust and Safety Task Force. The task force brought together a diverse group of experts to explore the evolving

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43:32

Speaking Out Amidst Unjust Attacks

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/05/23

ACK! I totally forgot to schedule this last night. So sorry for my delay.Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube!This week we welcome Nina Jankowicz to the podcast. She talks about the importance of recognizing Russia's use of disinformation as a geopolitical strategy and the need for more vocal online presence in countering disinformation. Nina also shares her observations of the impact of Russian disinformation during the 2016 US election from her vantage point in Ukraine. She discusses her research

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42:11

The Reality of Data-Driven Campaigning

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/05/16

Kate Dommett, a professor of digital politics, discusses her book “Data-Driven Campaigning and Political Parties” and her research on how political parties use data in election campaigns. She explores the prevailing narratives around data-driven campaigning and how they often do not match reality. Dommett also discusses the role of regulation in data-driven campaigning and the potential threats to democracy. She emphasizes the need for a nuanced understanding of data use in campaigns and the

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39:40

Pivot! Navigating Unprecedented Times with Audacity...

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/05/09

Sorry for the slight delay today. The tech gods were not being kind. Watch this on YouTube!NOTE: A lot of this summary and show notes were generated via a new AI tool by Riverside.fmIn this episode, Brian Fishman, co-founder and chief strategy officer at Cinder, discusses his background in studying terrorism and his work at Facebook. He shares insights on the early days of using the internet for research on terrorist organizations and the challenges of trust and safety in the tech industry. Brian

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Team Duco on Trends in Tech

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/05/02

Watch this episode on YouTube.As most of you know, I started working full-time as the Global Affairs Officer of Duco Experts in January. One of the things I like about the job is getting to work across the industry and seeing how companies tackle similar problems differently. Thus, I thought it would be fun to bring the leadership team on the podcast to discuss some trends. Sidney Olinyk is the founder and CEO. Neema Basri is the Chief Operating Officer, and Scott Hoch is the Chief Technology

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60:42

Harbath Solo Session: Frequently Asked Questions

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/04/25

I’m trying something different for this week’s podcast. I originally hoped I would have a webinar to repurpose, but we ended up rescheduling it, so rather than not doing a podcast this week, I thought I would record the answers to questions I get quite often.In this discussion, I go into seven different areas of interest. Topics and time stamps are below. I hope you enjoy it! * 2:04 - My career path & how I mapped out my post-Facebook journey* Lessons from Striking Out on My Own* Mapping Out My Post

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48:59

Trust & Safety & Integrity & Governance

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/04/18

Watch the video of our conversation on YouTube!This week, I welcome Professor Kate Klonick to the podcast. The name of this episode comes from some amazing swag Kate made for a conference she put on last year on the history of the Trust and Safety profession. (You know how much I love swag.)Kate is among the foremost experts on many things, including platform governance of speech. In 2018, she wrote a paper at Harvard titled “The New Governors: The People, Rules, and Processes Governing Online

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Lies, Damn Lies and Disinformation

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/04/11

Don’t forget you can watch all of these on YouTube!This week, we are discussing all things online influence operations with one of the foremost experts - Olga Belogolva. We’re talking about Russians, Chinese, Iranians, and other actors who want to influence the online information environment. The title of this episode comes from one of her classes she used to teach at Georgetown.Olga is the Director of the Emerging Technologies Initiative at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies

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Michael Bąk on the intersection of tech and civil...

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/04/04

Don’t forget you can also watch this on YouTube!This week, we are talking to Michael Bąk. Michael brings more than two decades of experience across international development, peacebuilding, diplomacy, and tech policy. Throughout his career, he has sustained a strong commitment to democratic governance, human rights, and information integrity.He is currently the Executive Director of the Forum on Information and Democracy and a former colleague of mine at Facebook, where he was the head of public

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40:13

Nate Persily on Elections, Social Media and AI

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2024/03/28

Don’t forget you can also watch these on YouTube!This week we welcome Stanford Law Professor Nate Persily to the podcast. I’ve known Nate since 2013/2014 when he held a gathering at Stanford with folks in the tech/digital industry and the Federal Elections Commission. Nate has been a thought leader his entire career with experiences across technology, academia and election administration. We get into all of that in this conversation. Some links from what we talked about:* Nate’s bio* Stanford Cyber

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38:22

Who Voters Trust for Election Information in 2024

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/03/21

Don’t forget you can now also watch these conversations on YouTube!This week, we are diving deep into elections and specifically where people go to get information on the election. Rachel Orey is the Bipartisan Policy Center’s Senior Associate Director where they are responsible for the organization’s election administration policy development, state and federal advocacy efforts, and the BPC Task Force on Elections. Their research focuses on evidence-based and data-driven reforms that meaningfully

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Lie Detectives: How Political Campaigns Fight...

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/03/14

This week on the podcast, we are taking you to SXSW and discussing a conversation I had with Sasha Issenberg about his new book, Lie Detectives: How Political Campaigns Fight Disinformation. You might remember him from his popular book Victory Lab, which was published after Obama won.Sasha’s book looks at people in the U.S. and Brazil who were at the forefront of helping campaigns figure out how to combat disinformation—including when to ignore it. He also touches on how many on the Right view this

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