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Let’s Run That Again

None of us run ultras because we want the “easy button,” but at the same time we sometimes face them with unrealistic expectations. Heidi Baker and Michelle Goldberg are both experienced ultrarunners and UESCA Certified ultrarunning coaches who want to help you unpack and understand the race that didn’t go quite as planned, and show you how they are opportunities for growth, learning and resilience building. Bringing in guests of all running and experience levels, we want to encourage you to embrace

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01:39:42

Episode 17: Elizabeth Flores and Kate Oliver: Running...

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2024/11/21

In this incredible episode we have TWO guests to gives us two different perspectives and insights. Elizabeth Flores dives into her running journey and her recent DNF at Moab 240. We are also joined by one of her pacers and members of her crew, Kate Oliver, to here the different perspectives and memories from the race. This longer episode is worth the listen! Find Elizabeth and Kate on Instagram: @run.floresrun @modlang3

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Episode 16: Hazel Harrison: "How Lucky Am I?"

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2024/11/14

Hazel Harrison is an incredibly accomplished ultrarunner who has an amazing story. One of her most notable accomplishments is the Marathon des Sables, and incredibly challenging seven day ultramarathon, which she actually wrote a book about as well recapping her experience. She is also a coach and talks with us about how she overcomes difficulties in both training and life, how she works with mindset to approach her own training and races and helps her own athletes with similar struggles.Check

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Episode 15: Alyssa Lieb: DNFing with Grace and Joy

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2024/11/07

Alyssa Lieb is a mountain sports dietician, ultrarunner, lover of the mountains and the sports that go along with it. She recently participated in The Rut Trifecta, which consists of a VK, 28k, and 50k races. She DNF'd the 50k after completing the other races in the prior days, and takes us through her decision making process, her mindset around DNFs and the stigma often carried with them, and how she chose joy over a 50k finish that day.Follow her on Instagram: @alyssaoutside_rd And check

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01:06:15

Bonus Episode: No Business 100 and Javelina Jundred...

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2024/11/05

In this bonus episode, Heidi and Michelle recap their experiences at two different races on the same weekend. Heidi dives into her DNF at the No Business 100, what went wrong, and the plan going forward. Michelle talks about her successful completion of Javelina Jundred on a record heat weekend in Arizona.

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01:16:08

Episode 14: Andrea Moore: "The Secret Power is...

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2024/10/31

Andrea Moore is an incredibly accomplished ultrarunner with Bigfoot 200, Cocodona 250, Moab 240, and more just being some of her recent trail victories. But outside of her Ultrasignup score is her incredible outlook and overwhelming positivity and love for the trails and journey. Andrea is bursting with love and we are so happy to share her story and mindset with you all.Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andthensome1 And TikTok: @andthensome1

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01:16:43

Episode 13: Jeff Winchester and Having an Open Mind...

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2024/10/24

Jeff Winchester is an ultrarunner, ultrarunning coach, podcast host, and all around inspirational person with wonderful insights into the sport. He talks with us about his personal experiences with DNFs, his coaching perspective, as well as diving into his recent experience of a cancelled ultramarathon and a last minute shift into a new race.Jeff has recently started a new podcast called Blueprint to Ultra! Be sure to check out his socials and his website

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Episode 12: Richard Urias: "Be the person you needed...

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2024/10/17

Richard (Ricky) Urias is an ultrarunner, father, and works for Ultraspire! He is a genuine and kind person who volunteered at the Zion 100 Milestone Challenge and paced several athletes to their goals. He talks about his journey into running and ultras, how he learned to shift his perspectives and learn to enjoy the journey, how he handles hard and challenging moments, and his thoughts on imposter syndrome and belonging in the world of ultras.Follow Richard on Instagram: @ragerhino

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Episode 11: Regina Parks: From 50k to 100

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2024/10/10

Although not a DNF story, Regina joins us to talk about her first experience with 100 miles, having only run a 50k as her longest distance prior to it. She never expected to run 100 miles, so she talked us through her challenges, how she overcame and found her way to 100 miles! She also talks over her mindset going into her new scary goal coming up soon!! Find her on Instagram: @whollyregina

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01:03:41

Episode 10: Lauren Jones and Doing Things That Scare You

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2024/10/03

Lauren Jones is not stranger to challenging races in ultrarunning. She has completed the Cocodona 250 along with tons of other challenging races, and often places or gets a podium spot. But she has also had some DNFs along the way, that helped shape her into the ultrarunner she is. Listen to her incredible mindset of diving into things that scare her, and how that helps her get back up to run again even when faced with incredible challenges.Find her on

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Episode 9: Mary Namestnik: "Trying is the most...

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2024/09/26

Mary Namestnik is a seasoned ultrarunner, who often finds herself on the women's or overall podium. She's a running coach, a cross country coach, a mom of three, and an all around incredible person with a mindset that gets her through distances of up to 100 miles. Mary talks about her backyard ultra experiences, an influential DNF moment at the Bloodroot 50 miler, and how she approaches training, racing and life. Find Mary on Instagram: @maryrunsultras

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Episode 8: Albie Day and Learning and Encouraging...

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2024/09/19

Albie Day is an experienced ultrarunner who has such an incredible mindset around running and the relationships and bonds formed through it. Although he does run ultramarathons himself, he has found his most profound and formative moments outside of racing, or in another's race as he paces someone. Albie shares his amazing perspectives with us and talks about his love of pacing at ultramarathons.Find Albie on Instagram: @snugglyviking

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Episode 7: Emily Lyons and Positivity, Playfulness,...

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2024/09/12

Emily Lyons is an experienced ultrarunner who has completed Badwater 135 twice, and is currently signed up for inaugural Arizona Monster 300. She keeps a full race calendar and has a constant sense of fun and playfulness. This mindset helps carry her through these tough races but also her DNFs. She also educates us on the Devil's Hole Pupfish- so be sure to tune in!!Find her on Instagram: @hungry_vegan_runner

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Bonus Episode: Michelle's DNF at Loopy Looper

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2024/09/10

Michelle recently experienced her first DNF. Listen to her recap her experience and how she came to the decision to stop and how she moved forward after the race. Disclaimer: This podcast does not cause DNF's

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Episode 6: Kaylee Frederick and Overcoming Internal...

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2024/09/05

Kaylee is a phenomenal ultrarunner, and a young one too being only 19 years old with a resume that many experienced runners would envy. She has run Badwater 135 twice, and this past year although she finished in a better time than the year before, dealt with a lot of disappointment and mental struggles as she didn't reach her own personal goals. She discusses with us overcoming those struggles, and also how she is using those lessons as she moves forward into even bigger and scarier goals.Find her

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Episode 5: Andrew Gaub- "You can do a whole a lot...

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2024/08/29

Andrew Gaub is a rare book seller, father, husband, ultrarunner, and Heidi's brother! Andrew has run a handful of ultras and recently DNF'd World's End 100k, which is known as a particularly challenging race. Listen to him talk about his journey through sobriety, ultrarunning, and rare book selling and how all this parts of him complement each other and encourage him to keep seeing what he is capable of.Follow him on Instagram: @livresrares

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Episode 4: Justin Andreas and Relatability, Coaching,...

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2024/08/22

Justin Andreas is an experienced ultrarunner, a coach, a podcast host, and a really fun follow on Instagram. He is all about making funny and relatable content to draw people into the sport. He talks about his coaching perspective on helping athletes through DNFs and hard races, talks through his own running adventures and difficult races, and shares some fun stories.Find him on Instagram: @running_in_stache @golden_hour_adventures_podcast

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Episode 3: Steve Epifano and Always Respecting the...

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2024/08/15

Steve Epifano is an ultrarunning coach and a very accomplished ultrarunner himself. He discusses the races that have taught him to always respect the ultramarathon distance, no matter his experience level, and how it is always a challenge. Steve also discusses the coaching perspective on DNFs and how he helps his athletes process them.

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Episode 2: Kayla Fitzgerald and DNF at Barkley Fall...

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2024/08/08

Kayla Fitzgerald is an ultrarunner, a sports dietician, a mom, and now a race director too! She talks with us about her DNF experiences at the Barkley Fall Classic, and how they changed her perspective on ultrarunning, goals, and life in general! Find her on Instagram at @the.endurance.nutritionist and @palmetto.ultras ⁠https://www.palmettoultras.com/⁠ ⁠https://www.endurance-nutritionist.com/

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Episode 1: Let's Run That Again!

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2024/07/24

Welcome to Let's Run That Again! In this episode, Heidi and Michelle share their ultrarunning journeys, why they decided to start this podcast, and talk about the importance persisting and learning every race.

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