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Wave Pool Mag

Bryan Dickerson

Veteran surf journalist Bryan Dickerson turns the mic to those at the center of the wave pool universe as WavePoolMag shines a light on the engineers, entrepreneurs, pros and the hand-picked few who have a wave pool story to tell. The questions are pointed and the answers range from the sublime to the illuminating, hitting all flashpoints in between. Dig in to hear from the minds designing, building and surfing the world’s wave pools.

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32:20

Hazel Geary – CEO at The Wave, Bristol

Wave Pool Mag ·

2023/10/17

We returned live to the middle of a sheep paddock in bucolic Easter Compton to check in with the new CEO at The Wave, Hazel Geary. In this podcast we explore the similarities and differences between the Leisure, Beauty and Well-being Industries and Surf Parks. Are we really that different? Yes and No. Hazel digs in with a fresh level of sophistication gleaned from years in the fitness industry. In the process we discover many nuanced learnings that our wave pool industry can benefit from.

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27:06

Find out how Flowstate uses AI to enhance the surf...

Wave Pool Mag ·

2023/10/04

How does one go about training a machine to recognise each and every individual surfer? Flowstate have created an AI powered capture system that records each guest’s surf experience. And the amazing thing is that it works without RFID wristbands or board stickers. In this podcast we dig in and learn how Chris, Mike and the crew at Flowstate have built a system that recognises those minute nuances that separate and define us each individually as surfers. By developing this “style fingerprint”

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43:37

In the surf park trenches – Matt Gunn of SwellMFG

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2023/08/27

Revel Surf park is the wave pool powered by Swell MFG. It is the focal point of the 37-acre mixed-use development at Cannon Beach in Mesa, Arizona. In this episode, we have a wonderfully frank discussion with Matt Gunn, who along with his partner, built this wave technology. The journey one takes from obsessing on, and then building a new technology is not for the faint of heart. Matt shares fascinating stories of real-world R&D failures, triumphs and flat-out stoke as his crew prepares to open

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41:39

And just how is the wave pool space evolving? Surf...

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2023/08/13

In this episode, we have a lively chat with the always-on-point Dr. Jess Ponting Jess is one of the brains behind Surf Park Summit, the annual wave pool dreamer, doer and developer convention. The Summit runs September 18-20 in San Diego, California.

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36:22

Just around the corner: Scotland’s first surf park...

Wave Pool Mag ·

2023/07/24

Many of the surf parks scheduled to open soon have been in the works for nearly a decade or more. Their architects are the original crop of dreamers and doers - the devout wave poolers in a long-term relationship with artificial wave technology. Andy Hadden wed the wave pool dream back in 2013 and is now eyeing the completion of Lost Shore Surf Resort, a 52-module Wavegarden Cove near Edinburgh. Despite the global ebbs and flows experienced by everyone these past few years, the project is marching

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40:16

Atlanta's first surf park has a unique approach

Wave Pool Mag ·

2023/07/12

The “City in a Forest” is well-known as the filming location for "The Walking Dead," music stars like Ludacris and Usher, horrendous traffic and a major launch point for the Civil Rights movement. And now, it might become known as the home to Georgia’s first wave pool. Spencer Broome and crew are driving the concept of Surf ATL, a wave pool with a broader vision of inclusivity and return. In this episode, Spencer explains why the most successful surf park is the one that satisfies both investors and

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36:52

Dave & Mike tell how they became owners of their own...

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2023/06/19

Dave Taylor and Mike Schwaab own Waco Surf, the Sputnik of surf parks in America. The facility launched in the early days of the wave pool race has since gone through many changes. Enter DT and Mike, two average guys who worked incessantly to fulfill their dream of owning a wave pool. Here is how it all happened.

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37:24

Ikaika and Greg from The Lineup at Wai Kai address...

Wave Pool Mag ·

2023/06/01

The Lineup at Wai Kai is unique in the wave pool world. To make a chlorinated rapid wave work in the birthplace of surfing is a tall order. Getting a skeptical community to support that project might take even more skill and moxie. But since opening this year, the world’s largest rapid wave has integrated into the community here on the West Side of Oahu. How? In this episode we speak with Ikaika Kaulukukui and Greg Champion who, along with many others, have worked tirelessly to ensure that this wave

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36:41

Ander Wynne-Edwards walks us through the entire wave...

Wave Pool Mag ·

2023/05/06

Ander Wynne-Edwards is the Director of Operations at Endless Surf. He’s worked for Whitewater West for the past two decades building and commissioning large-scale wave pools – pneumatic wave pools in particular. In this episode, he walks us through everything that goes on in the time between a project breaking ground and rolling out the first set of waves. Ander also divulges what kind of things make a job go smoothly and conversely, some of those challenges posed in this unique project niche.

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44:29

Editor-in-chief at STAB Brendan Buckley

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2023/04/17

What is the premiere surf platform's take on wave pools? In this episode, we gather insight into the wave pool scene from the editor-in-chief at STAB Brendan Buckley. While we normally talk to wave makers and doers, Buck’s contribution to the wave pool discourse is on the culture, that unique confluence of salt and pool water. We hit on how ocean surfing is already changing due to the availability of wave pools as well as touching on points where the romance between the two is thwarted.

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43:01

Blake Hess – The ultimate surf park manager

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2023/03/28

Blake Hess is a rare individual in that he is one of only a handful of people who know how to run, manage and develop a surf park. In the few years that wave pools 2.0 have been a thing, Blake has been deeply involved. He helped bring NLand online its first and only year and then he moved on and managed the lucrative ins-and-outs at Kelly’s. Now he is guiding three new American projects as they come on line. In this podcast Blake shares with us what happened at NLand, why Eddie Vedder is a great

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49:08

Jess Ponting dishes all those little details that...

Wave Pool Mag ·

2023/03/12

Dr. Jess Ponting joins us to touch on several projects and points including Stoke Certification, Surf Park Summit, the new Consumer Trends Report and more.But the heart of the convo comes during his big-picture view of surfing. “People aren't used to thinking about a surf park as a legitimate recreation facility in a community," he says. "And there's, you know, a certain cultural cringe about the frivolity of surfing and how could we possibly allocate resources to something as frivolous as surfing

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32:44

More surf park insight than you can possibly handle...

Wave Pool Mag ·

2023/02/26

Skip Taylor is the guy we call when we’re stumped as he is one of the few veterans working the nascent wave pool landscape. This industry being what it is, he’s up to his elbows in NDAs so getting him to spill is basically impossible. That said, Zooms with Mr. Taylor are like a perpetual cocktail hour where the conversation is easy, funny and punctuated with sharp insights. We always emerge with more knowledge and insight. In this episode Skip spills the beans on a few off-radar topics, dives into

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36:18

Brad Gerlach on the intersection of wave pools and...

Wave Pool Mag ·

2023/01/31

Brad Gerlach held down a very successful pro career during the ASP’s 3-to-the-beach era, finishing ranked at #2 in 1991. He then went on to pursue big wave riding, winning an XXL award in 2005. At some point, Brad merged martial arts and surfing fundamentals in a new training regimen called Wave Ki. In a nutshell, it’s practicing movements on land over and over again until those motions become engrained in your memory. Then, when you surf, you tap into this databank of movements without really

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27:33

Julie Kline explains how EpicSurf can democratize...

Wave Pool Mag ·

2023/01/22

In this episode we speak with Julie Kline of EpicSurf whose goal is to bring the benefits of sliding along a wave to everyone. The deepwater standing wave revolution will allow more waves in more places than ever before, bringing surfing to people who ordinarily might not have the chance to become surfers.

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34:09

Angus Forrest explains why Rip Curl jumped into the...

Wave Pool Mag ·

2023/01/08

In Rip Curl’s Search campaign, we are teased with images of empty lineups from far-off, exotic locations. So how does a company that built its core messaging on the nearly unattainable aspect of surfing, align itself with surfing in wave pools? In this episode, we speak with Angus Forrest, marketing manager for Rip Curl Australia and New Zealand, and discover how it’s really not that much of a stretch. During the discussion, we learn why Rip Curl identified surf parks as the next growth step for the

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41:02

Brandon Lowery

Wave Pool Mag ·

2022/12/15

Brandon Lowry is the interim CEO at USA Surfing, the definitive amateur organization for surfing in America. He’s been involved in the pool scene for more than a decade, working with Greg Webber and BSR Surf Resort early on. In this episode we explore not only how wave pools can better Team America, but how pools will change the face of global surfing.

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35:19

Evan Slater and why surf marketing matters in the...

Wave Pool Mag ·

2022/12/07

While we’ve been watching the surf industry shrink since 2008 – it’s never quite come back to where it was – we’ve also been watching the wave pool space accelerate with nothing but limitless possibilities. In this episode we learn how Billabong and other surf brands are courting the wave pool space. Evan Slater, VP of Marketing at Billabong, shares his insight into the complexity of branding in the surf park space and why “there’s more to it than just getting as many people as possible to stand-up

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19:23

What wave poolers need to know with Nick Hounsfield

Wave Pool Mag ·

2022/11/13

Quick Update with Nick Hounsfield of The Wave. We’ve had Nick on the show before and The Wave’s history is well documented. For this episode of the podcast we branched out to explore community and how The Wave is helping diversify the lineup.“We’re starting to see people of very different backgrounds come here, rather than feeling like it’s constantly a middle class white playground which would make me feel like I failed. So I want to make sure that diversity is embedded from the start.”

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27:55

What the surf park world can learn from the golf club...

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2022/10/30

Luke Altschwager is the Managing Director at Parkwood Village on the Gold Coast of Australia. He’s a former pro golfer currently merging resort know-how with surf park potential via the Club at Parkwood. Well-spoken and sharp-witted, Luke walks us through the similarities and the gaps between surf and golf as we explore how future wave pool developments can learn from this established leisure blueprint.

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