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Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins

Every week, Heatmap News Executive Editor Robinson Meyer and Princeton University Professor and energy systems expert Jesse Jenkins make sense of the biggest shift of our time -- navigating the energy transition away from fossil fuels. Drawing on their years of experience reporting on and researching climate change and decarbonization, Meyer and Jenkins unpack the most important issues of the week and how the impacts of climate change and efforts to address it are transforming our economy, politics,

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33:16

How to Decarbonize the World’s Biggest Ships

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/07/17

Shipping is the backbone of the modern economy. At least 80% of all goods worldwide are shipped as ocean cargo, and the global economy rises and falls on the free movement of gigantic ships across the sea. But container ships and bulk carriers burn what’s known as bunker fuel, one of the dirtiest fossil fuels. The international shipping industry generates 3% of global carbon emissions, a proportion that’s projected to rise through the century.Most proposals to decarbonize ocean freight have focused

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1:02:06

America’s Nuclear Policy Is Getting … Pretty Good!

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/06/26

Congress just passed perhaps its biggest support for zero-carbon energy since the Inflation Reduction Act. The ADVANCE Act, which the Senate adopted overwhelmingly last week, aims to keep America at the cutting edge of the global nuclear industry by cutting regulatory fees, making it easier for U.S. companies to build nuclear power plants abroad, and reforming the agency that oversees it all, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.On this week’s episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk with Ryan Norman,

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55:59

How China’s EV Industry Got So Big

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/06/19

China’s electric vehicle industry has driven itself to the center of the global conversation. Its automakers produce dozens of affordable, technologically advanced electric vehicles that rival — and often beat — anything coming out of Europe or North America. The United States and the European Union have each levied tariffs on its car exports in the past few months, hoping to avoid a “China shock” to their domestic car industries.Ilaria Mazzocco has watched China’s EV industry grow from a small

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1:18:17

How California Broke Its Electricity Bills

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/06/05

Rooftop solar is four times more expensive in America than it is in other countries. It’s also good for the climate. Should we even care about its high cost?Yes, says Severin Borenstein, an economist and the director of the Energy Policy Institute at the University of California, Berkeley’s Haas School of Business. In a recent blog post, he argued that the high cost of rooftop solar will shift nearly $4 billion onto the bills of low- and middle-income Californians who don’t have rooftop solar

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36:46

A Conversation With Biden’s Former Top Economic...

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/03/15

Few people have shaped Bidenomics more than Brian Deese. From 2021 to 2023, Deese led the National Economic Council at the White House, serving as President Joe Biden’s top economic aide. He’s now an Innovation Fellow at MIT, where he helps lead the new Clean Investment Monitor project.In part two of Shift Key’s conversation with Deese, we discuss electric vehicles, the future of U.S.-China trade relations, and whether the Big Three automakers can survive. Shift Key is hosted by Heatmap Executive

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44:26

A Conversation With Biden’s Former Top Economic...

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/03/13

Few people have shaped Bidenomics more than Brian Deese.From 2021 to 2023, Deese led the National Economic Council at the White House, serving as President Joe Biden’s top economic aide during such events as the post-pandemic recovery, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act.Before that, Deese was global head of sustainable investing for Blackrock and a senior political advisor to President Barack Obama. He’s now the Institute Innovation Fellow at MIT, where he

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48:30

Does Rooftop Solar Actually Help the Climate?

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/03/06

For a few weeks now, Heatmap’s staff writer, Emily Pontecorvo, has been trying to figure out if installing rooftop solar panels on your home actually reduces carbon pollution in a systematic way. In other words: If you own a home, and install solar panels on it, are you doing anything to change how much fossil fuel gets burned in your region or around the world? Or — somewhat counterintuitively — will your panels just increase the cost of electricity near you while shifting demand for those fossil

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54:42

The Next Big Climate Tool: Little Chunks of Rock

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/02/28

When we talk about carbon removal, we often focus on “direct air capture” facilities — big factories that suck carbon dioxide out of the ambient air.But a simpler and easier way to remove carbon from the atmosphere may exist. It’s called “enhanced rock weathering” — grinding up rocks, spreading them out, and exposing them to the ambient air — and it works, essentially, by speeding up the Earth’s carbon cycle. Enhanced rock weathering recently got a major vote of confidence from Frontier, a

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51:44

Is Biden’s Climate Law Actually Working?

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/02/21

A year and a half ago, President Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act, the biggest climate law in American history — and arguably in world history. But is it actually working? A new report from a coalition of major energy analysts — including our cohost Jesse Jenkins’ lab at Princeton — looks at data from the power and transportation sectors and concludes that yes, the law is starting to decarbonize the American economy.But it isn’t working in the way many people might expect. Robinson Meyer,

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48:08

Has Offshore Wind Finally Hit Rock Bottom?

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/02/14

It has been a catastrophic 12 months for offshore wind in the U.S. Large projects have been canceled, and Orsted, the world’s biggest offshore wind developer, has laid off hundreds of employees. Is the industry dying?Maybe it’s actually about to turn a corner. In this episode, Robinson Meyer, the executive editor of Heatmap News, and Jesse Jenkins, an energy systems expert and professor at Princeton University, discuss the future of the sector.Mentioned:Orsted’s troubles: FT A wind farm powers up:

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1:13:30

The Messy Truth of America’s Natural Gas Exports

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/02/07

Last month, President Biden announced the federal government would temporarily stop approving new export terminals for liquified natural gas. The move was hailed as a victory by climate activists and lamented by fossil-fuel companies. But what will the pause mean for the climate — really? Will it stop exports from rising in the near-term, and can we say with any certainty whether it will make carbon emissions go up or down?In this inaugural episode of Shift Key, Robinson Meyer, the executive editor

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Welcome to Shift Key, a new climate podcast from...

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins ·

2024/02/05

Every week, Heatmap News Executive Editor Robinson Meyer and Princeton University Professor and energy systems expert Jesse Jenkins, make sense of the biggest shift of our time -- navigating the energy transition away from fossil fuels. Drawing on their years of experience reporting on and researching climate change and decarbonization, Meyer and Jenkins unpack the most important issues of the week and how the impacts of climate change and efforts to address it are transforming our economy,

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