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Pop Fiction Women

In Pop Fiction Women we deep-dive into the complicated women of books, movies and TV shows, along with the women that bring them to life behind the scenes. Think Fleabag and Phoebe Waller Bridge, Normal People and Sally Rooney, and so much more. In each episode you can expect us to: * Break down the protagonist as we ask what makes her complicated? * Identify the best scenes, which can mean sweetest, funniest, or most badass. Anything we love. * Recount the cringiest scenes. The ones that make you

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83:28

Jessica Simpson & 'Open Book' Memoir

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/04/01

Jessica Simpson: complicated but an open bookOur second episode of Pop NON-fiction Women, there are no real spoilers as we highlight Jessica Simpson's Bombshells, Baller moments and Boys** Carinn "accidentally" read this book in 48 hours. She had low expectations, but once she started reading it Jessica drew her right in with her honesty, vulnerability and over-the-top stories of love, addiction, relationships, career and motherhood. Open Book surprised us at every turn. (00:26)** The book is full

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80:56

'Little Fires Everywhere' Recap: Episodes 2 & 3 of...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/03/25

Carinn, Kate and Kathryn recap Hulu's Little Fires Everywhere Episodes 2 & 3*** There is a lot going on with Mia. What’s with the attitude? Without some context or a big reveal, we wonder whether we are going to feel differently about her at some point. We hope so. (1:06)*** The Vagina Monologues book club does show us another side of Mia when she comes to Elena’s defense and, unlike the book, gives us some great interactions between Mia and Elena. (6:02)*** Elena overserves herself the

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53:11

'Little Fires Everywhere' Recap: Episode 1 of the...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/03/18

Carinn, Kate and Kathryn recap Reese Witherspoon vs Kerry Washington on Hulu's Little Fires Everywhere Premiere episode.*** Kate felt it perpetuated some of her issues with the one-dimensional nature of our matriarchs, but Carinn had the exact opposite reaction. Kathryn, who joins us today as the perspective of someone who hasn’t seen the book, felt the show made her empathetic towards the almost child-like Elena, played brilliantly by Reese Witherspoon. We are all waiting for more from Mia and the

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56:32

Mary Adkins & 'Privilege': Complicated Conversations...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/03/17

Complicated Conversations with Mary Adkins: PrivilegeIn Complicated Conversations, we add authors as creators into our discussion about complicated women, digging into their first-hand experiences, process and passion in bringing these women to life. ** Carinn and Kate discuss words of wisdom shared by Mary Adkins' 7th grade English teacher -- “Remember, the arc was built by amateurs and the Titanic was built by professionals” -- and what that meant to us. (00:49)** Privilege is the story of three

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85:20

'Dead To Me' Season 1 & Liz Feldman, on Netflix with...

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2020/03/11

**Complicated Woman Rating (Jen & Judy) Kate unpacks the many layers of grieving widow Jen, including her defining characteristic: anger.Carinn describes Judy a liar and a murderer, but acknowledges her other positive attributes, particularly as she relates to Jen. Both agree these two women are complicated and that their friendship is the heart of this show.(01:38)**Jen or Judy - who do we relate to more? Kate declares “it’s not even close” -- she feels like she's all Jen.Carinn relates to

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59:48

Quick Cap #5: Fleabag monologues, Jessica Simpson,...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/03/04

Quick Cap #5: Fleabag monologues, Jessica Simpson's new book, Brit Marling's NYT essay, and Natalie Portman claps back at Rose McGowan**We can’t get enough of Fleabag. There were two monologues from Season Two that didn’t fit into our standard format -- we tried to let them go, but we couldn't. Kate applauds the relatability of the speech on womanhood delivered by Kristen Scott Thomas on women's awards and women's pain.“Hair IS everything!” Fleabag says to Anthony after Claire gets a bad haircut --

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103:35

'Something's Gotta Give' & Nancy Meyers

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/02/26

Something’s Gotta Give & Nancy Meyers: crying at your computer complicated**Quick Cap Intro: We’re trying something new in this episode! Before we get to Erica Barry and Something’s Gotta Give, we dissect the New York Times Opinion piece by Brit Marling with the incendiary title, “I Don’t Want To Be The Strong Female Lead”. We couldn’t resist this teaser: “In pop culture, women are often objectified and disposed of. But even when we’re not being victimized, the alternative leaves much to be

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101:25

'Little Fires Everywhere' & Celeste Ng

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/02/19

Little Fires Everywhere & Celeste Ng: Complicated Dueling Matriarchs**The Matriarchs — Mrs. Richardson and Mia Warren — could not be more opposite, one lives by her rules and regulations and the other is a free spirited artist living a nomadic life. (Starts at :40).**Carinn relates to both of them and how they made her analyze the difference between power and control while Kate admits (sadly) she relates to Mrs. Richardson’s need to for order. (9:38)**Are they complicated? Kate is frustrated by

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95:47

'Fleabag' Season Two & Phoebe Waller-Bridge

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/02/12

Fleabag Season Two & Phoebe Waller-Bridge: complicated in love**Complicated Woman: Fleabag. Our most complicated woman is back and we're unpacking the differences in Fleabag between the two seasons. Carinn and Kate surprisingly disagree on which version of Fleabag was closest to irredeemable. (01:59) and more at (48:56)**We check on Fleabag's relationship growth from season one. Godmother (08:24), Father, (11:04), Claire (16:11)**Meet the Priest. Every scene between Phoebe Waller-Bridge and

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37:50

Quick Cap #4: The Affair's Real Life Dual Narratives,...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/01/29

Quick Cap #4: The Affair's Real Life Dual Narratives, Christina Tosi and PFW's first live event!The theme of this episode is “adaptation”. We’re talking about a number of news items involving novels being adapted for the big and small screen and how we personally adapted to do our first Pop Fiction Women live event (at :28)The Affair. We discuss the explosive story around conflicting accounts from show creator Sarah Treem and star Ruth Wilson about whether a toxic work environment existed on set at

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60:20

'Always Be My Maybe' & Ali Wong

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/01/22

Always Be My Maybe & Ali Wong: complicated with role reversals**Pick Me!: We provide a refresher on the criteria we use to pick our media: 1) must feature a complicated woman; 2) has to be written by or directed by a woman (this movie is a rare gem that passes on both) and apparently an unofficial third category that it has to be a version of When Harry Met Sally! (01:30)**Complicated Woman Rating. Sasha Tran, is she really complicated? Carinn isn’t feeling her inner conflict, but Kate is all

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64:58

'Daisy Jones and the Six' & Taylor Jenkins Reid

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/01/15

Daisy Jones and The Six by Taylor Jenkins Reid: Women Who Rock**Our Complicated Woman. Daisy Jones is certainly nobody’s muse, and while she hits all the marks of a complicated woman, we can’t always feel her conflict as much as we would like. Do we really know Daisy or is it that she doesn’t even know herself? Or is it a limitation of the unique oral history, transcript-style structure? (Starts at 01:22)**The Daisy-Camila-Billy Love Triangle. Carinn thinks Daisy doesn't stand a chance against

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45:53

Quick Cap #3: The Decade In Female Rage, Lack of...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/01/08

Quick Cap #3: Coming in HOTIn this episode we shake it up a bit...we talk about anger and rage and snubs and poor choices then we bring it back to love and marriage and relationships. Come along for the ride.Female rage was a big part of the last decade of literature and fiction. Can it be useful, bring clarity and then harnessed for change? Hell yes. (Starts at :54)Movies that make us rage: Like a Boss and Bombshell. Both movies have massive female talent and star power involved, but both are

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76:51

'Fleabag' Season One & Phoebe Waller-Bridge

Pop Fiction Women ·

2020/01/01

Fleabag Season One: the most complicated of all.**Fleabag is the most complex woman we've come across, the epitome of the modern complicated woman. Kate asserts that no one asks so much of us in terms of what we are willing to accept or tolerate in a character. (00:30).**We unpack Fleabag's crazy complicated relationships -- Godmother (6:30), Father (13:00), Hot arsehole guy (18:08), The Loan Guy (25:30), Claire (29:50), Boo (35:42)**What's Your Damage, Heather? For Fleabag, there's a lot of it

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38:29

Quick Cap 2: Rocking Out and Rocking the Boat...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2019/12/23

Quick Cap #2 SegmentsUpdates from Quick Cap #1:Good news -- Carinn actually likes wine! (starts at :20)Bad news -- Carinn confirmed our worst fear: that astrology is apparently not mainstream. Say it isn’t so! (at 3:20)Casting For Daisy Jones and the Six has been announced and it’s sooo perfect. (at 7:45)The Morning Show (and Billy Crudup) still has our attention. (at 11:05)We discuss Reese Witherspoon playing against type with Bradley Jackson of The Morning Show. Was this a wrong choice or is her

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66:26

'Sleeping With Other People' & Leslye Headland

Pop Fiction Women ·

2019/12/16

Sleeping With Other People: When Harry Met Sally for a new generation**Complicated Woman Rating. What makes Lainey Dalton complicated? Carinn and Kate both agree Lainey is a solid 5 out of 5 rating. She hits all the marks, defying the romcom female lead at every turn. (00:35)**Lainey’s best scenes. It was hard to narrow the list of the best down or to even decide if the same scene was the best or the cringiest, but that’s all part of what makes this complicated (read: amazing!). (6:30)**Lainey and

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'Love Actually' & Emma Thompson & Laura Linney &...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2019/12/09

Love Actually: love, actually, is complicated and Love Actually is complicated too.A fan favorite but also a critics’ favorite to bash. We face the attacks head on so we can put the cringe behind us and get to the really good stuff. (Starts at 2:06)Is this even a love story? Carinn argues that romance and love are two different things in the context of a relationship. Kate acknowledges that the movie celebrates love and relationships in all different forms, even if there are some depressing or

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'When Harry Met Sally' & Nora Ephron

Pop Fiction Women ·

2019/11/20

When Harry Met Sally: more complicated than you thinkComplicated Woman Rating - what makes Sally Albright complicated?Sally’s best scenes. The best can mean sweetest, funniest, most badass, most growth. Anything we love. (6:45)Sally’s cringiest scenes. Cringy scenes make you squirm, but part of being a complicated woman is doing things that feel or come off as cringe-worthy. Sometimes it’s self-sabotage, sometimes it’s growth, but it’s always part of the process of becoming our complicated selves

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Normal People & Sally Rooney

Pop Fiction Women ·

2019/11/20

*** NEW INTRO: Carinn and Kate revisit this episode, their first ever, recorded six months and over 25 episodes ago. Everything after the 45 minute mark is original content unlike anything else out there. We hope you enjoy!Normal People: a slow, deep complicated*** Complicated Woman Rating - what makes Marianne complicated?*** The best scenes with Marianne. The best can mean sweetest, funniest, most badass, most growth. Anything we love.*** The cringiest scenes from Marianne. Cringy scenes make you

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36:59

Quick cap: Taylor Swift, Astrology, Dare Me

Pop Fiction Women ·

2019/11/20

Quick Cap #1 segmentsDare Me Trailer is released We’ve started watching The Morning ShowTaylor Swift Rolling Stone interviewHow mainstream is astrology?Jessica Knoll has a real Luckiest Girl Alive momentWhy you should be following Chanel Miller on InstagramStay complicated!Links:Dare Me trailer on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAxyHv2NqcTaylor Swift in Rolling Stone https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/taylor-swift-rolling-stone-interview-880794/Astrology

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