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Break the Business

Break the Business Podcast

A show for indie creators and the people who love and support them. Break the Business Podcast is a fun and informative discussion of entertainment law (for non-lawyers), independent artists, and popular culture. Break the Business is recorded live on Thursdays at 9pm Eastern at twitch.tv/breakthebusiness. Catch the show on Mondays at 6pm on SiriusXM Channel 145 SLAM Radio and on all major podcast platforms! If you"d like to be a guest or have any questions, please send us an email at

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1:11:28

BTB Ep 75: Interview with the Doubleclicks, the DMCA...

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2017/02/26

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading!In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss potential changes to copyright law and how they can affect independent artists. R & D specifically talk about why it is important for indie artists to fight (1) against changes to the notice-and-takedown procedures in the DMCA and (2) for an increase in streaming payments to songwriters. In the second segment, the Portland-based musical duo The Doubleclicks stop by. They talk about playing to their unique fan

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1:05:55

BTB Ep 74: Music Touring Tips; Marian Call Interview;...

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2017/02/20

Hi Podcast Listeners! Thanks for downloading!In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about their upcoming trip to see John Wick: Chapter 2. They are quite excited about it. They also discuss a recent Ari Herstand Bandzoogle article, "How (and Why) to Hit the Road." If you are wondering how to put together an effective tour without a booking agent, this episode is for you. You can find Herstand's article here: www.bandzoogle.com/blog/how-and-why-to-hit-the-road.In the second segment,

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1:00:33

BTB Ep 73: Kesha, Dr. Luke, and 360 Deals; Grammy's...

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2017/02/13

Hi Podcast Listeners! Thanks for downloading.In the first segment, Ryan gives his thoughts on how to improve the Grammys and gives the latest updates in the Kesha/Dr. Luke case. This leads to a broader discussion about the dangers of 360 provisions in record deals and why it is important for artists do not agree to those sorts of arrangements.In the second segment, singer/actress/model/author Laura Powers stops by. She talks about her Behind the Music Podcast, tells Ryan's future (she's a psychic!),

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54:24

BTB Ep 72: Kesha/Dr. Luke Update; Super Bowl Talk

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2017/02/05

Hi Podcast Listeners! Thanks for downloading! This week, Ryan and Dave discuss an update in the Kesha Dr. Luke case. Both sides are pressing forward with the lawsuit in New York, and things are getting contentious. R & D break down the latest complaint, discuss Kesha's allegations, and go over the dangers of exclusive recording agreements for musicians. R & D also give some you some Super Bowl talk and Metal Dave stops by for Dave's Metal Minute.Thank you all very much for listening

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1:06:31

BTB Ep 71: What you need to know about co-authors and...

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2017/01/29

Hi Podcast Listeners! This week, Ryan and Dave answer a listener question about joint works and co-authorship and have a broader discussion on the issue. Writing songs with others is a great way to create great art, but it also presents a host of practical issues that you need to confront to make sure you don't run into trouble. Ryan and Dave discuss what you need to watch out for when collaborating on your content. R & D also talk about the best picture nominees for the Oscars, debate about the

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31:13

BTB Ep 70: Interview with New Artist Model's Dave Kusek

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2017/01/22

Hi Podcast Listeners! This week, Ryan interviews music educator and New Artist Model founder Dave Kusek to talk about how musicians can educate themselves and embrace their inner music entrepreneur. You can find out more about Dave's work by visiting www.newartistmodel.comThank you all very much for listening! Rate/review/subscribe to the Podcast on iTunes and SoundCloud. Like Break the Business on Facebook. Follow Ryan @ryankair and Dave @metaldave85. And tell a friend about the show! And visit

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1:14:25

BTB Ep 69: Making an album in 24 hours; interview...

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2017/01/15

Hi Podcast listeners! In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss Ryan's upcoming speaking engagement at the NAMM conference and the recent MGM lawsuit settlement involving unpaid interns. Ryan and Dave also discuss indie artist Danielle Ate the Sandwich and her recent project--a 24-hour album! DATS is writing, recording, and producing an entire album of songs in 24 hours and is letting her Patreon patrons watch her do it on live video. It is a great example of effective hyper-creation, fan

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1:34:45

BTB Ep 68: Crowdfunding tips; Phillip Phillips...

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2017/01/08

Hi Listeners! Happy 2017! In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about what they did over the holidays. It has been two weeks since the last episode and they missed the listeners a lot. They also talk about some insightful crowdfunding tips from Chris Robley from a recent "DIY Musician" blog post and give an update on the Phillip Phillips lawsuit that may get the American Idol star a little closer to a positive outcome against his former management company. The Phillip Phillips case serves as a

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47:52

BTB Ep 67: Happy Holidays! Interview with Mandy Harvey

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2016/12/25

Happy Holidays Podcast Listeners! It is our last episode of the year. We look forward to talking with you again in 2017. This week, Ryan sits down for a special interview with the inspiring and talented singer-songwriter Mandy Harvey. After losing her hearing at the age of 18, Mandy has gone on to create three acclaimed jazz albums, perform at the Kennedy Center, and be featured in many media publications. Mandy talks to Ryan about her unique performing and songwriting process and provides some

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1:12:00

BTB Ep 66: Avenged Sevenfold vs. Warner Bros.; Cari...

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2016/12/18

Hi Podcast Listeners! Thanks for downloading.In the first segment, Dave makes it clear that he is obsessed with Rogue One (he has already seen it three times) and will try to take over this week's show with Star Wars talk every chance he gets. Along the way, Ryan and Dave answer a listener question about music launches and choosing a release date for your music. Then, R & D talk about the ongoing lawsuit between Avenged Sevenfold and their former label, Warner Bros.. The suit involves Avenged

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BTB Ep 65: The IFPI report: Are labels really...

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2016/12/12

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading.in the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss the recent report from the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) discussing the amount of money record labels invested in A&R in 2015. The report claims that labels are investing plenty in developing artists. But is that actually true? Ryan and Dave do a deep dive into the statistics to give a realistic assessment, showing how labels are not fostering talent like they should.In the next

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58:31

BTB Ep 64: Earning money over the holidays; music...

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2016/12/04

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading.In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss Ryan's upcoming speaking engagement at NAMM. They also talk about articles in the DIY Musician and Sonic Bids about earning more money as a musician over the holidays and expanding your merchandising. In the second segment, marketing expert and 15 Second Pitch co-founder Laura Allen stops by to give tips on effective pitching. She gives concrete advice on how musicians can make strong pitches to move their

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1:23:39

BTB Ep 63: A Day To Remember wins in court; interview...

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2016/11/27

Hi, Podcast Listeners! Thanks for downloading!In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss Ryan's exhibit at the book fair and Dave's Trip to New York during their off week. They also talk about A Day to Remember's recent court win against their record label, Victory Records. There is also a discussion of Instagram as a social media tool and doing holiday covers as a DIY artist.In the second segment, musician and blogger Ari Herstand stops by to talk about his upcoming book, "How to Make it in the

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1:05:14

BTB Ep 62: Using Twitch in your music career;...

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2016/11/20

Hi, podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading.Musicians and friends of the show Evan Lamb and Elisa Melendez are in for Ryan and Dave this week both on the podcast and in these here show notes. Hi! Nice to meet you! Apologies in advance.In the first segment, Evan and Elisa discuss why the popular livestreaming service Twitch might just be the perfect supplement to your existing social media and YouTube presence. They'll tell you how to get set up, best practices when streaming, and what sets it

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1:17:21

BTB Ep 61: What a Trump presidency means for DIY...

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2016/11/13

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading.In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss this week's election and have a concrete policy discussion on how a Donald Trump presidency could affect indie artists. It is an uncertain political environment, and the future has both positive and negative implications for DIY musicians. How will Trump's policies affect musicians? Find out!In the second segment, indie folk band The Krickets stop by. Fresh off a big night at the Independent Music Awards where

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1:19:22

BTB Ep 60: Making cover videos legally; career tips...

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2016/11/06

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading!In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about Dave's recent trip to L.A. and give tips on how to make videos of cover songs legally. This is all the more important in light of the flurry of takedown notices being sent by Universal Music to Facebook users. Cover videos are a great way to move your music career forward. Learn how to do it safely.In the second segment, Ryan sits down with musician, consultant, and Make Creativity Pay founder Leanne Regalla

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1:08:11

BTB Ep 59: Lessons from the end of Vine; Ariel Hyatt...

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2016/10/30

Hi Podcast Listeners! Thanks for downloading. This week, Ryan talks about the death of Vine and the important lessons musicians need to learn from its demise. Ryan also talks about his experience in the recording studio narrating the Break the Business audiobook, which will be available soon.In the second segment, acclaimed music entrepreneur and Cyber PR founder Ariel Hyatt stops by to discuss effective crowdfunding strategies and her new book "Crowdstart: The Ultimate Guide to a Powerful and

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1:05:58

BTB Ep 58: Embracing non music content; interview...

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2016/10/23

Hi Podcast Listeners! Thanks for downloading!In our first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss how musicians should embrace non-music content to further their careers. In the New Music Industry, it is important to take inventory of your non-music strengths, and find a way to leverage those strengths to move your career forward. You are more than the music you play, and you should use those extra skills to reach new heights.In the second segment, musician/marketer/entrepreneur James Taylor stops by to

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1:22:08

BTB Ep 57: Is Sony shortchanging its artists?; John...

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2016/10/09

Hi Podcast Listeners! Thanks for downloading this week.In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss last week's Rorie Kelly interview and Dave provides some interesting insight on the current composition of women in the executive ranks of major labels. Ryan and Dave also discuss the recent lawsuit between 19 Recordings and Sony Music. At issue in the case is whether Sony is shortchanging its artists by paying out streaming revenue at an unfairly low rate. The case underscores the outdated contractual

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1:19:44

BTB Ep 56: Non-musical skills for artists to learn;...

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2016/10/02

Hi Listeners! Thanks for downloading.In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about Adele's latest album going Diamond (10x Platinum) and the implications it has for DIY artists and the music industry as a whole. They also discuss the recent Jesse Sterling Harrison article in SonicBids, "Five Non-Musical Skills musicians should work to improve."In the second segment, Ryan interviews indie artist Rorie Kelly. In addition to being an acclaimed singer-songwriter, Rorie is also the executive director of

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