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Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer

Legal Talk Network

Thinking Like A Lawyer is a podcast featuring Above the Law"s Joe Patrice, Kathryn Rubino, and Chris Williams. Each episode, the hosts will take a topic experienced and enjoyed by regular people, and shine it through the prism of a legal framework. This will either reveal an awesome rainbow of thought, or a disorienting kaleidoscope of issues. Either way, it should be fun.

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30:23

Awards For The Lawyer In Your Life

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/12/30

Joe and Elie nominate, debate, and pick winners for a slew of end-of-year awards. The prize money is in the mail. By check. Subject to shipping and handling.

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35:39

Bonuses And Bowls

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/12/22

Joe and ATL Editor Kathryn Rubino discuss Biglaw bonus season as firms place the final cherry atop associate compensation after a tumultuous year of raises. Then they walk through college football bowl season and preview every matchup between teams with ABA accredited law schools because that's exactly what people thinking like lawyers would do.

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50:41

Freedom Of The Press In Trump's America

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/11/30

Joe and Elie chat with libel law expert and former Bloomberg Global Media Counsel Charles Glasser about the state of the press going forward. Glasser explains why he's actually optimistic about freedom of the press, despite Trump's campaign rhetoric about "opening up" libel law and the mainstream press deciding to hold off-the-record meetings in Trump Tower.

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21:24

Private Practice Tools and Tech Roundup

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/11/18

Joe and Elie talk to fellow ATL editor David Lat about the recent APP Conference in Philadelphia bringing together practitioners and thought leaders to discuss the future of legal practice. And Elie and Joe argue about public schools.

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25:55

What's Up With The Philadelphia Market?

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/10/24

Joe and Elie have only ever worked in New York law firms, so they're taking some time to focus on the ins and outs of legal markets around the country. First up is Philadelphia, New York's kid brother, to find out exactly what goes on in this city that -- for some firms -- is paying New York-level salaries.

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30:24

Supreme Court Preview: Waiting For Garland

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/10/10

Elie and Joe chat with SCOTUSBlog contributor and Supreme Court litigator Tejinder Singh about the upcoming Supreme Court Term. The docket lacks the blockbuster issues of past years, but there are still some critical cases pending before the 8-member Court.

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27:43

Is LegalZoom Ruining The Legal Profession Or...

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/09/30

With Elie unavailable, Joe brings on Chad Burton and Nicole Bradick of CuroLegal to cohost a wide-ranging discussion with LegalZoom General Counsel and Corporate Secretary Chas Rampenthal about the role LegalZoom plays in the future of the legal profession from the perspective of both clients and other lawyers. We also ask the most important question: How well did John Travolta capture O.J. Simpson lawyer and LegalZoom cofounder Robert Shapiro.

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36:03

Access and Name Dropping

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/08/31

Joe and Elie debate the Clinton Foundation, back to school issues, and the efficacy of taking classes with "famous" professors, just so you can name drop at parties.

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32:03

Pokémon's Evolving Legal Landscape

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/08/11

Joe and Elie chat with Drew Rossow of the law office of Gregory M. Gantt in Dayton, Ohio, and author of Gotta Catch... A Lawsuit? about the legal challenges surrounding Pokémon Go. It's worth noting that technology moves fast, and since recording this episode, Niantic has released updates via Pokemon Go that have begun to address how both players and businesses can “opt out” and “opt into” the game, along with addressing some safety concerns with more interactive disclaimers.

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28:45

Law Firm Salary Extravaganza

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/07/28

Law firms all across the country fell all over themselves last month to hike associate salaries. Elie and Joe chat with Professor Bill Henderson of the Indiana University Maurer School of Law, an expert in legal industry economics, to discuss what just happened and where the industry goes from here. Spoiler: he's not sure everyone should have given out those raises...

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33:04

Summertime In Law Firms

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/06/15

Discussing the whole summer experience of Biglaw life. From summer associate etiquette to proper lunching locations, to living as a full-time associate in a world of summers, we discuss how to tackle the summer and reminisce about our own summer adventures.

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34:37

Unveiling The 2016 Top 50 Law Schools

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/06/06

Joe and Elie chat with Research Director Brian Dalton about the latest law school rankings from Above the Law and trends in legal education. Do you want to know where you should go to law school? Do you just want bragging rights over your colleagues from rival schools? Either way this podcast is for you.

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19:22

Making A Murderer's Dean Strang On Criminal Justice

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/04/26

Joe and Elie chat with Dean Strang, the breakout legal star -- if that's the right word for a documentary -- of Netflix's Making A Murderer. Along with attorney Steven Chung, the gang chats with Strang about the state of the criminal justice system and the persistent plague of prosecutorial overreach.

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40:09

The Hulk Hogan Leg Drop On The First Amendment

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/04/07

Elie and First Amendment Lawyer Marc Randazza talk about the Hulk Hogan verdict, the right to be forgotten, and how Europe seems to be getting along just fine without ruining everybody's Google footprints.

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33:46

The Future and Past of the Supreme Court

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/03/14

Elie and Joe talk to Professor Peter Irons about Justice Scalia's vacancy and the often very personal stories of the people who bring their cases to the United States Supreme Court. Listen to Elie's mind being blown in real-time by a personal account of the life of Fred Korematsu.

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39:05

Everything You Wanted To Know About That Drone Spying...

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/02/18

Elie and Joe talk with a drone law expert about the expanding rights of drones and the diminishing rights of property owners who want to stop them.

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31:50

Election Law Pitfalls Of Presidential Primaries

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/02/10

Joe and Elie chat with election law expert Professor Rick Hasen about the Iowa Caucuses, Ted Cruz's infamous mailer, and Citizens United as the presidential election kicks into gear.

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28:05

Slave Wars

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2016/01/05

Do Droids have rights in the Star Wars universe? Are they "pets?" Does Jabba's treatment of droids reveal him to be more evil than the Empire? Spoilers follow.

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35:50

A World Without Affirmative Action

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2015/12/22

With the Court seemingly poised to strike down affirmative-action in Fisher v. Texas, Elie, Joe and Renwei Chung debate how we got here and the future of diversity in higher education.

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24:34

Here Comes The Bride... And The Lawyers

Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer ·

2015/11/23

Elie and Joe chat with Robert Schenk of Schenk Smith and proprietor of the Wedding Industry Law Blog about the oft-overlooked legal minefield that is getting married. Venues, vendors, and "DJ-Gate" loom large as Schenk explains how he found this niche and used it to build his small firm practice.

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