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The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.

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46:04

Donald Trump, Immune Buffoon

The Gist ·

2024/07/01

SCOTUS gives immunity to Presidents for official acts, and leaves it to lower courts to define (and maybe get overruled on) what constitutes "official acts." Plus, Sarah Isgur, of ABC and The Dispatch, is here again to break down a slew of other Supreme Court cases. Plus, a compendium of some of the most prominent voices arguing that concerns about Joe Biden's age were just Republican talking points, media both-sides-ism, the new Hillary emails, or something other than legitimate ... we're calling

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36:09

BEST OF THE GIST: Mixed Signals Edition

The Gist ·

2024/06/29

In this installment of Best Of The Gist, the remainder of Mike’s interview with Ben Smith and Nayeema Rasa, co-hosts of the new Semafor podcast Mixed Signals. Topics touched upon include (but are not limited to) naming a podcast, Vivek Ramaswamy, and the future of media. To hear part one of this interview, listen to our show from Wednesday, June 26, 2026. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show:

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45:45

Must Joe Go?

The Gist ·

2024/06/28

Jospeh Robinette Biden did not cover himself in glory in last night's debate. As Democrats discuss changing horses midstream, The Gist analyses what went wrong besides the obvious mental discombobulations. Our guest is Sarah Isgur, ABC legal expert, Senior Editor at The Dispatch, and veteran campaign adviser including to Carly Fiorina, Ted Cruz, and Mitt Romney. Plus, we trace the circle of blame for Biden's potentially disastrous performance. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at

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41:37

The Bear, The Draft, The Debate

The Gist ·

2024/06/27

With big sporting, cultural, and political events occurring all at once, Mike offers a contemplation of the nature and purpose of speculation about things that are definitely going to happen one way or the other. Plus, Thomas Kail and Lior Ashkenazi are director and actor in the Hulu series We Were The Lucky Ones, the telling of a true story about a family's nearly impossible survival during the Holocaust. We discuss how this film lands differently after October 7th, the benefits and drawbacks of an

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44:08

All The Editor's Mess

The Gist ·

2024/06/26

Ben Smith and Nayeema Raza, co-hosts of the Semaphor podcast Mixed Signals, discuss the turmoil at the Washington Post. Plus Jamal Bowman's Israel pronouncements were an important part, but hardly the only factor, in his political demise. And NGOs and the media should be scrupulously accurate about the deprivation and hunger in Gaza.Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Subscribe to The Gist

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48:08

Southlake

The Gist ·

2024/06/25

Mike Hixenbaugh is a Senior Investigative Reporter for NBC News and the co-creator of Southlake, a podcast that won a Peabody for spotlighting the tensions in an affluent Dallas suburb where factions battled for control of the school board in a campaign that mirrored what was happening on a national stage. He's now out with a book, They Came for the Schools: One Town's Fight Over Race and Identity, and the New Warfor America's Classrooms.Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at

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40:43

Joe, Abe Dissimilar

The Gist ·

2024/06/24

Investor and climate activist Tom Steyer discusses his new book Cheaper, Faster, Better: How We’ll Win the Climate War and why running for president is an excellent megaphone. Plus, John Fetterman isn't so much trolling the Democratic party as just being his unvarnished hoodie-wearing self. And Joe Biden can't be that much like Abraham Lincoln even if he wanted to be, but the upcoming debate is a situation where he really shouldn't want to be. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at

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76:15

BEST OF THE GIST: Father And Son Edition

The Gist ·

2024/06/22

In this installment of Best Of The Gist, Mike and his first-born son Milo appeared on the Smoke Em If You Got Em podcast this past week. The two Pescas discussed toxic masculinity with the show’s hosts Nancy Rommelmann and Sarah Hepola, and they graciously allowed us to play the interview in its near entirety on this weekend’s Best Of show. Enjoy. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Subscribe to

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52:39

Warning: This Discussion Of Warnings Might Cause...

The Gist ·

2024/06/21

The Surgeon General proposes warning labels for social media; we ask, "Do warning labels even do anything?" Plus, Dispatch Editor-in-Chief Jonah Goldberg talks about the decimation of political parties, the decency to lie about your principles, the slogan "Democracy is on the Ballot”, and great TV theme song bass lines. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Subscribe to The Gist Subscribe:

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41:47

Tricking Spotify Into Getting Weird

The Gist ·

2024/06/20

Glenn McDonald is a streaming music pioneer who worked for years for Spotify. He's out with a new book, You Have Not Yet Heard Your Favorite Song: How Streaming Changes Music. Also, DeSantis and Disney get un-Frozen. Plus, assessing a challenge to New York Congressman Jamal Bowman on an issue other than Israel.Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Subscribe to The Gist Subscribe:

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44:14

The Politics Of Holidays

The Gist ·

2024/06/18

On the show today, with Juneteenth coming up tomorrow, we take a look at some dubious holidays in a couple southern states. And in our full show interview this week, Mike talks with John Ganz, author of When The Clock Broke about those crazy 1990s and the birth of modern conservatism. A note to listeners: no-show tomorrow in honor of the holiday. Will be back live on Thursday. Have a great day off.Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show,

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42:59

Birds Aren't Real (SHHH ... Don't tell the Crested...

The Gist ·

2024/06/17

Peter McIndoe is the founder of the Birds Aren't Real movement-slash-conspiracy theory. He is also the author of the book, Birds Aren't Real: The True Story of Mass Avian Murder and the Largest Surveillance Campaign in U.S. History. Peter doesn’t believe any of that, by the way, but has good insights on the type of people who do. Plus, Biden will probably win the debate. And how public access to subway brakes, the inability to license a pot store, and a 30-year-old San Fransisco "shanty town"

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22:03

BEST OF THE GIST: SCOTUS Gone Wild Edition

The Gist ·

2024/06/15

In this installment of Best Of The Gist, a recent and a slightly less recent segment about the Supreme Court and their ethics … or lack thereof. From this past week, Mrs. Alito spits fire, and … uh … spit. And from April 2023, Clarence Thomas and his … uh … benefactor. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Subscribe to our ad-free and/or PescaPlus versions of The Gist:

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42:31

Strom Thurmond Cost Him An Apartment From The Grave

The Gist ·

2024/06/14

Yusuf Dahl is founder of the Real Estate Lab in Allentown, Pennsylvania and Director for Innovation and Entrepreneurship at Lafayette College. He was also sentenced to ten years for dealing drugs at the age of eighteen. To this day, he can still be legally discriminated against in the housing market, which he recently discovered when attempting to rent a home. We speak about his fight to overturn this measure. Plus, 25 years ago the Santana song "Smooth" went to #1. Would you believe It was the

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47:01

Gaza And Other Sieges

The Gist ·

2024/06/13

The war in Gaza is a type of siege warfare, which is a topic that's been extensively studied by Amos C. Fox. Fox is a retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel who hosts the Revolution in Military Affairs podcast as well as the War On The Rocks podcast. Plus, even the slight discrepancy in numbers in Elon Musk's pay package is so enormous as to confound and dazzle.Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit:

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40:40

Flooding the Dumb Zone

The Gist ·

2024/06/12

Dallas sports talk hosts Dan McDowell and Jake Kemp left their station and started a podcast, The Dumb Zone, and, in doing so, they became something of a test case (or maybe "poster guys") for the new Federal Trade Commission rule banning noncompete clauses. The fight for sports talk freedom and Luca Donic discussions ensue. Plus, Joey Chestnut shut up and shut out of Nathan's. And what New York's last minute fold on congestion pricing says about toughness.Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey

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41:56

Mrs. Alito's Secret Vergogna

The Gist ·

2024/06/11

A political operative secretly recorded conversations with Justice Samuel Alito, wherein he said nothing much different than he's said before ... or that any reasonable person would say. His wife seems angry, though. Plus, Eric Weiner chats about his latest book, this one about Ben Franklin, Ben & Me: In Search of a Founder's Formula for a Long and Useful Life. And also on the show, will voters pick the father of the felon or the felon, and can they possibly understand the difference?Produced by

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42:08

We Just Haven't Been Flapping Them Hard Enough

The Gist ·

2024/06/10

We looked at the title of Lawrence Wood's new book, Your Caption Has Been Selected: More Than Anyone Could Possibly Want to Know About The New Yorker Cartoon Caption Contest, and we decided the subtitle was not to be taken literally. Mr. Wood hereby submits to further caption contest questioning. Plus, Doug Burgam on the VP short list (and the bank statement long list). And the rescue of four Israeli hostages sets off recrimination over the cost in enemy and civilian lives. Produced by Joel

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35:00

BEST OF THE GIST: D-Day Anniversary Edition

The Gist ·

2024/06/08

In this installment of Best Of The Gist, in honor of the 80th anniversary of the D-Day invasion this past week, we rewind nearly10 years back to August 2014 and Mike’s interview with Ron Rosenbaum, author of Explaining Hitler: The Search for the Origins of His Evil. We also listen back to Mike’s Wednesday Spiel about the true meaning of … “intifada.” Did you think we were going to say, “Christmas”? Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the

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40:10

Why We Can't Have Nice Vexillogical Things

The Gist ·

2024/06/07

Ted Kaye, Secretary of the North American Vexillogical Association is back to talk flags, sedition, Sam Alito, and reclamation. Plus, the war in Sudan is, by some measures, the worst in the world. And Mike either suggests a proper epitaph for American society or offers some fun ways to spice up the dreary old summer time guacamole recipe. The answer is lime juice, people! Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit:

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