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Break the Business

Break the Business Podcast

A show for indie creators and the people who love and support them. Break the Business Podcast is a fun and informative discussion of entertainment law (for non-lawyers), independent artists, and popular culture. Break the Business is recorded live on Thursdays at 9pm Eastern at twitch.tv/breakthebusiness. Catch the show on Mondays at 6pm on SiriusXM Channel 145 SLAM Radio and on all major podcast platforms! If you"d like to be a guest or have any questions, please send us an email at

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BTB Ep 55: Creating VIP ticket experiences with...

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2016/09/25

Hi Podcast listeners! This week, Ryan sits down with music marketing and digital strategy expert Michael Brandvold. Ryan and Michael talk about how DIY artists can create VIP ticketing packages without busting their budget. They also discuss the importance of creating effective websites and how to make the most of your social media presence. You can find out more about Michael's projects at michaelbrandvold.com and you can check him out on the Music Biz Weekly Podcast.Thank you all very much for

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BTB Ep 54: Talking about record deal recoupment;...

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2016/09/18

Hi Podcast Listeners! In the first segment, we discuss Ryan's recent Hypebot book excerpt about the nastiness of record deal recoupment. In a nutshell, most record contracts involve artists having to pay back the money a label spends on making (and often promoting) the artist's album entirely out of the artist's royalties. Record deals are not investments by labels. They are loans, and artists are the unwitting debtors.In the second segment, musician and marketing expert Steve Palfreyman stops by to

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1:18:38

BTB Ep 53: Promoting your music career with podcasts;...

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2016/09/11

Hi Podcast listeners! Thanks for downloading!In our first segment, Ryan talks to Dave about his new golden retriever puppy Molly. R & D also discuss a recent article by former Podcast guest Kosha Dillz that appeared in Hypebot about the promotional value artists can gain by appearing on podcasts. In many ways, appearing on podcasts can give an artist more promotional juice than being featured in a blog. Podcasts allow potential fans to get to know more of your story, and the podcasting audience

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1:20:58

BTB Ep 52: Mike Birbiglia's tips for creators; Dave...

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2016/09/04

Hi Podcast Listeners! Contest Note: thecelebritycafe.com is hosting a contest where you can win a free copy of Ryan's Break the Business Book. Go check it out!In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about comedian Mike Birbiglia's NY Times Article "6 Tips for Making it Small in Hollywood. Or Anywhere." Even though Birbiglia's article mainly focuses on achieving success in comedy and writing, his lessons are also important ones for independent artists to hear. In the second segment, musician and

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1:08:37

BTB Ep 51: Lou Pearlman's Legacy; Bobby Owsinski on...

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2016/08/29

Hi Podcast listeners! In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about the passing of fraudster and music producer Lou Pearlman. Pearlman passed away in mid-August while serving time in prison for orchestrating a $300 million ponzi scheme. Among the way, Pearlman went on to create, and subsequently allegedly defraud, a number of boy bands, including the Backstreet Boys and N*Sync. Ryan discusses Pearlman's acts of exploitation in the music industry and talks about how his actions serve as a warning to

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1:18:28

BTB Ep 50: 50th Episode Extravaganza; Danielle Ate...

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2016/08/21

Hi Podcast Listeners! The Break the Business Podcast is celebrating its 50th episode, and we have a terrific show for you to enjoy. This week, we have great music industry advice, comedy sketches, and some former guests stop by to congratulate Ryan and Dave on the Big 5-0. In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss the recent David Byrne article in the New York Times about music streaming and who's to blame for artists making little money off of platforms like Spotify. While it is easy to blame the

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1:09:15

BTB Ep 49: Ryan's Kesha article; Jack Conte talks...

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2016/08/15

Hi Podcast listeners! In the first segment, Ryan discusses his article that came out in Hypebot this past week: "The Kesha-Dr. Luke Lawsuit Exemplifies Everything That is Wrong With the Music Industry." The article talks about exclusive recording agreements and how such agreements contributed to the toxic relationship of Kesha and Luke--as well as to the culture of abuse in the music industry as a whole.In the second segment, musician and entrepreneur Jack Conte stops by. Ryan talks to Jack about

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1:14:31

BTB Ep 48: Kesha drops her lawsuit; indie artist's...

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2016/08/07

Hi Podcast Listeners! Thanks for downloading this week!In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about Ryan's vacation in the North Carolina mountains. They also discuss Kesha's recent decision to drop her lawsuit against Dr. Luke and the lessons that all indie artists can learn from this harrowing story. Ryan and Dave close the segment by discussing recent articles about projects artists should work on before the end of the summer, and effective crowdfunding.In the next segment, Dave reviews

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1:29:08

BTB Ep 47: Dave's Solo Show; Darryl Neudorf on the...

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2016/07/30

Hi Podcast listeners! It's the Dave Show!Ryan is out of town this week, so it falls to the great and powerful Dave to helm the show this week. Were you aware that red light cameras stink? Because they do. Also, Brandy has filed suit against her label in yet another example of an artist wanting to do the work of making an album, but the label not cooperating and creating a limbo for the artist.We talk to Darryl Neudorf about his new initiative, POLR (Path of Least Resistance). It’s all about creating

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1:10:44

BTB Ep 46: What does a publishing administrator do;...

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2016/07/24

Hi Podcast Listeners! Thanks for downloading.In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about publishing administrators and the services they provide for artists. If you are an independent artist, having a publishing administrator is crucial. They make sure you get all the money to which you are entitled for the songs you write. Find out why you need one and how to pick the right one for you by listening here.In the second segment, Julia Pernicone from the publishing administration company SongTrust

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1:17:56

BTB Ep 45: Indie Musician Checklist; Jaymay discusses...

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2016/07/17

Hi Podcast Listeners!In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss The DIY Musician's Blog indie musician checklist, a list of foundational tasks that any successful indie artist-entrepreneur must complete. Ryan then adds a couple extra items of his own that are also important. If you can get everything done on this list, you will be in good shape to move your career forward.In the second segment, indie artist Jaymay stops by. Jaymay is a marvelous singer-songwriter who has performed on Late Night and

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51:07

Ryan Kairalla Break the Business Author Event Speech...

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2016/07/10

Hi Podcast listeners! Here is a special bonus episode of Ryan's speech at his author event for his book "Break the Business: Declaring Your Independence and Achieving True Success in the Music Industry." The event took place at Books & Books in Coral Gables, Florida. In his speech, Ryan discusses the main themes of the book, including the problems with record deals; the resources artists can use to create, promote, distribute, and fund music on their own; and several guiding principles that indie

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1:11:09

BTB Ep 44: Ryan's Event; Global Music Market Report;...

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2016/07/10

Hi Podcast Listeners! Thanks for downloading this week. Our love for you knows no bounds.In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss Ryan's book launch event that happened this week at Books & Books and also talk about the recent findings from Research and Markets' Global Music Market Report. There is good news in that report for musicians everywhere, particularly for indie artists who are willing to hustle to make their careers a success.in the second segment, indie artist Omar Velasco stops by to

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1:16:52

BTB Ep 43: Leave the DMCA safe harbors alone;...

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2016/07/03

Hi Podcast Listeners! In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss the recent petition from over 180 superstar musicians and top music companies to have Congress get rid of the safe harbors under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. It is a complicated area of law, but it is one about which indie artists MUST be informed. The safe harbor provisions, though certainly not perfect, attempt to strike a fair balance between the rights of copyright holders and the practical reality that platforms like

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Star Trek Axanar Director Robert Meyer Burnett...

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2016/06/26

Hi Podcast Listeners! Our interview with Star Trek Axanar fan film director Robert Meyer Burnett this week was really awesome. However, he also gave us a lot of great information and we did not have enough time in the episode to fit it all in. As a result, his interview in the episode is heavily edited. But since he was so great on the show, we are releasing the full, unedited version of the interview here as a separate download. If you are a Star Trek fan, you will really enjoy his insight. His

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1:04:35

BTB Ep 42: Stairway to Heaven ruling; Bryan Frates...

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2016/06/26

Hi Podcast Listeners! In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss the recent Stairway to Heaven copyright ruling and its effect on indie artists. The legal landscape is changing, and getting more confusing. Download this episode and get informed. In the second segment, indie singer-songwriter Bryan Frates drops by to talk about making website intro videos and innovative CD release strategies. In the final segment, Ryan and Dave get talk about the recent (and ridiculous) Star Trek Fan Film Guidelines

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1:15:16

BTB Ep 41: What the Open Music Initiative means for...

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2016/06/19

Hi Podcast Listeners! If you are in the South Florida area on July 7, Books & Books in Coral Gables is going to have an author event for Ryan's Break the Business book. It will be a great chance for you to meet Ryan and Dave and find out more about the book. We'd love to see you there! In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss the new Open Music Initiative being created by Berklee and MIT. It's goal: to create an IMDB-type database for every piece of music so that all content creators can be

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1:15:11

BTB Ep 40: The end of downloading?; Keith Johns on...

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2016/06/12

Hi Podcast Listeners!In the first segment, Ryan talks about recent rumors that Apple might be shuttering its iTunes download store in the next couple years. What does this mean for indie artists? How would a shift away from music downloading change the way that DIY musicians market their music recordings? Will music recordings cease to be a significant revenue stream for artists at all? What opportunities will come about from such a shift?In the second segment, Miami-based indie folk artist Keith

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1:06:19

BTB Ep 39: Eriq Gardner on the Phillip Phillips...

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2016/06/05

Hi Podcast Listeners! In our first segment, Hollywood Reporter Senior Editor Eriq Gardner joins Ryan and Dave to discuss the ongoing litigation involving American Idol winner Phillip Phillips and his management company 19 Entertainment. The case serves as a prime example of the difficulties that artists can endure when trying to advocate for their rights against big entertainment companies.In the second segment, country pop artist Megan Golden joins the podcast. Megan is an indie artist and a

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1:09:43

BTB Ep 38: Kina Grannis in Jakarta; The Droids give...

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2016/05/29

Hi Podcast Listeners! Thanks for joining us this week.In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about indie music star Kina Grannis' harrowing story touring in Indonesia and the lessons that all artists can learn from her misadventure. You can find out more about Kina's story by visiting www.kinagrannis.com (and get some of her music while you are there because Kina is awesome!). In the second segment, one of our favorite guests The Droids stop by. They are a husband-and-wife synth-rock duo. Their

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