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Break the Business

Break the Business Podcast

A show for indie creators and the people who love and support them. Break the Business Podcast is a fun and informative discussion of entertainment law (for non-lawyers), independent artists, and popular culture. Break the Business is recorded live on Thursdays at 9pm Eastern at twitch.tv/breakthebusiness. Catch the show on Mondays at 6pm on SiriusXM Channel 145 SLAM Radio and on all major podcast platforms! If you"d like to be a guest or have any questions, please send us an email at

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1:27:43

BTB Ep 37: Kesha's Billboard Music Awards...

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2016/05/22

Hi Podcast Listeners! The BTB Podcast has moved into its new studio starting with this episode. We hope you enjoy the improved digs.In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about the new studio and then discuss the recent controversy involving Kesha's Billboard Music Awards performance. Kesha is currently involved in a lawsuit with her record producer Dr. Luke. Kesha has accused the producer of sexually assaulting her and is trying to get her recording agreement with him terminated. This week, Dr

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1:20:19

BTB Ep 36: The Poor Man's Copyright myth; Mary...

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2016/05/15

Hi Podcast Listeners! In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss the "poor man's copyright" myth (and an SonicBids article on the subject by music lawyer Erin M. Jacobson) and why it is important for indie artists to register their music. A lot of great law tips are presented in a fun way. In the second segment, indie singer-songwriter and friend-of-the-show Mary Jennings stops by to talk about her latest remix album, her pregnancy, and her own feelings on copyrights. Mary is always a great

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1:02:01

BTB Ep 35: Grammy winner Tim Kubart talks about his...

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2016/05/07

Hi Podcast listeners! Ryan is getting married today, but that did not stop us bringing you a fantastic episode. After talking about some wedding stuff, Ryan and Dave interview Grammy award-winning indie musician Tim Kubart. Last February, Tim won the Grammy for Best Children's Album for his 2015 release "Home". He talks to R & D about his experience making an award-winning album in his "tiny apartment." He also talks about what it means to him that the five Grammy nominees in his category were all

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1:14:46

BTB Ep 34: Five Finger Death Punch lawsuit; Daria...

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2016/05/01

Hi Everyone! In the first segment, Dave and Ryan talk about the lawsuit between metal band Five Finger Death Punch and their record label. The suit underscores one of the most troubling aspects of record deals--that labels have full control over when artists get to release their art to the public. Listen to Ryan and Dave discuss the implications that this case has for indie artists everywhere. In the second segment, Ryan and Dave are joined by indie artist Daria Musk. Daria became an overnight music

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BTB Ep 33: Musician/entrepreneur Derek Webb talks...

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2016/04/24

Hi Podcast listeners! This week, musician and entrepreneur Derek Webb stops by to talk about his platform Noisetrade. Noisetrade is a music distribution platform in which artists offer free downloads of their content in exchange for receiving the downloaders' e-mail addresses. Ryan's conversation with Derek covers the Noisetrade platform and also discusses the role that an indie artist's recorded content plays in moving their moving their career forward. Is recorded music a product, or is it a

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BTB Ep 32: Using subscription models for your...

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2016/04/17

Hi Podcast Listeners!This week, Ryan talks about some of the big changes coming both in his personal and podcasting life over the next few weeks. In addition to getting a new spouse and a new house, you the listener will eventually get to enjoy your favorite music business podcast from a brand new studio, which Ryan is currently building. Stay tuned! Ryan and Dave also discuss how artists can use subscription models as a way to release content and merchandise will also assuring a steady stream of

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BTB Ep 31: Meri Amber on her latest album and...

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2016/04/04

Hi listeners! This week, we are joined by one of our favorite guests, Meri Amber. She is a terrific "geek pop" singer songwriter and we have a blast every time we have her on. This week, she joins us to discuss her latest album, the 90s-inspired "Retro Sherbet." She also gives us some great tips during the interview on how to blog effectively as an indie artist and offers us a window into her recording process. And in a Break the Business Podcast first, we have our guest stay on for an additional

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1:13:55

BTB Ep 30: Making music videos on zero budget;...

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2016/03/27

Hi podcast listeners! In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss a couple terrific articles that indie artist and blogger Chris Robley wrote recently. One was about indie singer-songwriter Daniel Anderson, who was able to have a successful release of his latest album by selling copies door-to-door. Find out how Anderson was able to mix old-school and new-school marketing methods to earn an unexpected hit LP. The second article discussed how Chris Robley was able to make a great music video for his

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1:13:01

BTB Ep 29: Indie artist tips; Alayna discusses...

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2016/03/20

Hi Podcast Listeners! This week Ryan and Dave talk about the changes to Twitter's feed. There is an algorithm now, and artists will need to change their tweeting accordingly to be successful on the platform. They also talk about artist managers and a Pledge Music article on the importance of building "super fans."In the second segment, country pop indie sensation Alayna stops by. She talks about her monster crowdfunding campaign for her latest EP and how she works to keep her fans engaged with her

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1:07:04

BTB Ep 28: NBC Changes Songland Contract; Erin M....

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2016/03/13

In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discuss the latest Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros video. It was shot entirely on an iPhone and it came out great! This has huge implications for indie artists and for the videos they make. Our hosts also talk about NBC's recent changes to its Songland contestant contract. Ryan and Dave talked about the problems with this contract a month ago and recent public pressure has led to changes in the language. But do those changes go far enough?In the second

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1:17:53

BTB Ep 27: How recent Spotify rumors affect indie...

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2016/03/06

Hi Podcast listeners! This week, there are rumors abound streaming services, and Ryan and Dave break them down. With Spotify possibly finding new ownership, Ryan shares his thoughts on what it could mean for indie artists. R &D also talk about a recent cover video contest hosted by CD Baby and Dave shares some metal news. In the second segment, Ryan and Dave talk about the trailer for the new Ghostbusters movie and they have "NostraDAVEus" stop by to give movie reviews for movies that have not come

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1:18:29

BTB Ep 26: E-mail Signatures; Eric Smith from Auralex...

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2016/03/01

Hi Listeners! Thanks for downloading. In the first segment, Ryan and Dave discusses a SonicBids Blog article about creating an engaging e-mail signature. Well, to be more precise, Ryan discusses the article, and Dave tries to throw Ryan off the whole time because he wants the whole show to be a comedy podcast. In the second segment, Auralex CEO Eric Smith stops by and gives great advice on building a great home studio (a MUST for indie artists). Eric is a fantastic entrepreneur and his insights are

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1:23:34

BTB Ep 25: Ke$ha-Dr. Luke Update; Vocal Tips with Amy...

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2016/02/21

Hi Podcast listeners! In the first segment, Ryan and Dave briefly discuss Cyber PR's new free content calendar and American Idol winner Caleb Johnson's latest independent release and crowdfunding campaign. But they most of the segment discussing the latest updates in the Ke$ha-Dr. Luke case and the judge's ruling denying Ke$ha's preliminary injunction. In discussing the case, Ryan shares his views on exclusive recording contracts and the dangers they impose on artists.In the second segment,

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1:17:09

BTB Ep 24: Reality Show Contracts; Krista Hartman...

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2016/02/14

Hi Podcast Listeners. Thanks for listening and tell a friend!Happy Valentine's Day! In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about a Music Think Tank blog article that leaked the talent contracts for the upcoming NBC music competition show Songland. Spoiler alert: The agreements are a mess. R & D rip the contract to shreds and Ryan gives some helpful guidance on how indie artists should approach reality show competition contracts generally. In the second segment, adult contemporary singer-songwriter

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1:12:47

BTB Ep 23: Music Distribution, Kevin Breuner from CD...

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2016/02/07

Hi Listeners! We are thrilled to have co-host Dave back in the studio! He has returned from China and is back in the studio to make us all happy. In the first segment, Ryan and Dave talk about music distribution options for artists and Ryan is thankful for his dear friend Josh's contribution of a brand new BP40 microphone from AudioTechnica. Thanks Josh, you are the best!In the second segment, CD Baby's Director of Marketing Kevin Breuner stops by. He gives great insight into major label life

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1:00:39

BTB Ep 22: Andrew Koussevitzky first-hand on major...

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2016/01/31

Hi Podcast Listeners!Ryan is back in his home studio after his remote cast from NAMM last week. In the first segment, Ryan reflects on his time at NAMM and talks about what is next for the show. He also talks about his book and its availability on Amazon. The Break the Business book was the #2 new music business book on Kindle last week. Thank you so much!In the second segment, musician/lawyer Andrew Koussevitzky stops by. Andrew is a former member of the band Stellar Revival, which was signed to

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BTB Ep 21: BTB from NAMM 2016; I.D.S.F.A. haunts your...

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2016/01/24

Hi Listeners! First thing's first: Ryan's book "Break the Business: Declaring your Independence and Achieving True Success in the Music Industry" is available now on Amazon. Check it out!This week, the Break the Business Podcast is on location at NAMM 2016 in Anaheim, California. NAMM 2016 is a world famous convention that features music equipment and merchandise from manufacturers all over the world. It also features a lot of panels that give great advice to help musicians.For this episode, Ryan is

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1:07:57

BTB Ep 20: Erin M. Jacobson on finding a music...

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2016/01/17

Hi Listeners! Thanks for joining us this week. In the first segment, Ryan gives an update on his book and his upcoming trip to NAMM. He also discusses the loss of David Bowie and Alan Rickman this past week.In the second segment, "The Music Industry Lawyer" Erin M. Jacobson stops by for an interview. Erin is a celebrated entertainment lawyer who focuses much of her practice on helping indie artists. She gives great insight on when a DIY artist should retain a lawyer, what they should look for in a

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1:08:37

BTB Ep 19: Happy New Year! D Grant Smith talks about...

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2016/01/10

Happy New Year, everyone! The Break the Business Podcast is back for 2016. Ryan and Dave talk about what they did over the holiday break, and have lots of exciting news to share. The biggest of that news is that Ryan is engaged! After talking about taking the plunge, R & D then talk about the mistakes that DIY artists can avoid in the new year.In the second segment, indie music expert and syndicated radio host D Grant Smith stops by and gives some great tips on how DIY artists can grow their

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1:27:31

BTB Ep 18: Our Year End Pop Culture Spectacular

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2015/12/27

Hi Podcast Listeners! It is our last episode of the year. We are celebrating a terrific 2015 with a more relaxed format this week. Ryan brings in his podcasting buddies Elisa and Evan to join Dave in a pure pop culture episode. No DIY music talk this week. Instead, we will make you smile with some comedy and general banter. We talk about "The Room", Steve Harvey's Miss Universe flub, Madonna's Christmas custody issue, and Star Wars. We also have a couple game shows this week because we all love the

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