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A Deeper Listen

On A Deeper Listen, host Emily Fox and other storytellers from KEXP talk with artists about the stories behind their songs and the experiences that inform their work. Through each conversation, we uncover the humanity behind the music, allowing us to hear it in a whole new way.

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17:18

How Taylor Swift Ended Up in KEXP’s Heavy Rotation

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2020/08/04

Taylor Swift has now achieved her seventh No. 1 Album on the Billboard 200 chart for her latest record, ‘folklore.' At the end of April, Swift reached out to Aaron Dessner of the National to make an album. Three months later, ‘folklore' was released. The album is being dubbed Taylor Swift’s first indie-folk record, andhas now been placed into heavy rotation at KEXP. KEXP’s Music Director Don Yates explains why he put Taylor Swift into rotation for the very first time

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Carla Sariñana on Burger Records and Sexism in the...

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2020/07/30

Carla Sariñana is a Mexico-based musician. Her solo project is called Silver Rose, she plays bass in Ruido Rosa and is also label manager at Devil in the Woods. She says she wasn’t surprised when she heard that California’s Burger Records folded after members of more than a dozen bands on the label were accused of predatory behavior, sexual misconduct and assault, especially towards fans who were minors. She’s familiar with the sexist culture of the music industry, saying

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26:45

The Biography of Chris Cornell

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2020/07/28

Total F*cking Godhead: The Biography of Chris Cornell is out today. Author Corbin Reiff discusses the stories behind the music of the vocalist of Soundgarden, Audioslave, and Temple of the Dog. “Jeff Ament [of Pearl Jam] has once said that [Chris Cornell] is the best songwriter to come out of Seattle since Jimi Hendrix and that’s probably what I would go with his legacy as,” Reiff says. “He was just an immense talent. He had a lot of god given ability with his voice but he

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26:46

Minneapolis’ History of Segregation in Music

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2020/07/23

The book, “Got to Be Something Here: The Rise of the Minneapolis Sound” by Andrea Swensson explores Minneapolis’ segregated music scenes and the systemic racism historically at play in the city. Swensson speaks with KEXP DJ Kevin Cole about theoverlooked bands and artists who shaped the city’s sound, the Highway Act that split largely-Black neighborhoods in Minneapolis and how Black artists, bands and venues were scrutinized by police and the local music industry. Swensson

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21:15

The Lawsuit Over "Lady A"

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2020/07/21

A legal battle over the name "Lady A" has brought up questions around white privilege and racism in the music industry. Amid global protests against police brutality and systemic racism, the country group Lady Antebellum said they would change their name to Lady A. That’s because the word Antebellum, which in Latin translates to “before the war,’ is associated with the US Civil War and the Confederacy. However, there’s already a Lady A. She’s a Black blues singer based

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16:41

Billboard Bans Bundling

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2020/07/17

Billboardannouncedthis week that artists can no longer bundle album sales. Bundling is where an artist adds on, or “bundles” an album to a sale of a concert ticket or merch. For example, a fan would buy a ticket to a concert or an artist T-shirt and the artist adds in an album to that purchase. The idea was to game the billboard chart and count that sale of a ticket or sweatshirt as an album sale. The more album sales, the better your chances are of charting on billboard. Chris Molanphy

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32:54

Building Black Wealth

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2020/07/16

Seattle hip hop artist Draze released a single called"Building Black Wealth." The message was simple—build Black wealth by buying from Black-owned businesses. Draze discusses the single and its message. To understand the landscape of being a Black business owner in Seattle, Arif Gursel of the workspace,The Union, as well as Frank Ulwenya, the owner of Rumba Notes Lounge,talk about their experiences.Support the show: https://www.kexp.org/sound/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy

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Martha Reeves on Motown and Going into Politics

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2020/07/14

In light of the news that Kanye West said he would run for president, we talk with another musician who went into politics. It’s Martha Reeves of Motown’s Martha Reeves and the Vandellas who had the hits, “Heat Wave” and “Dancing in the Streets”. She talks about her time as a Detroit City Councilwoman as well as Motown’s sound and how it united people when racial tensions were high in America.Support the show: https://www.kexp.org/sound/See

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13:40

Music Venues Ask for Help Amid COVID-19

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2020/07/09

Independent music venues say they need help from the government or else they’ll have to close their doors completely. Guest Steven Severin is the co-owner of Neumos in Seattle, and is part of the Washington Nightlife Music Association (WANMA) and the National Independent Venue Association (NIVA). He discusses the state of independent music venues right now and how they are asking folks to get in contact with their congressmembers to pass the RESTART Act to help save venues and other small

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11:45

Aisha Fukushima on The Pandemic and “RAPtivism”

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2020/07/07

Aisha Fukushima calls herself a RAPtivist.She says the mission ofRAPtivismis to “challenge oppression with expression all around the globe.” About 10 years ago, Fukushima traveled to seven different countries as part of a fellowship program and recorded with musicians along the way. The final product ended up becoming her debut album, RAPtivism. Her latest single is called “Pandemic." Guest host Gabriel Teodros asks Fukushima about the lyric in the song, "this pandemic is

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Khruangbin’s Musical Fusion Aims to Unite

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2020/07/02

Khruangbin’s unique brand of psychedelic funk draws influences from their hometown of Houston, Texas, as well as from around the globe, starting with their appreciation of Thai funk tapes from the 60s. This has helped the band gain popularity with audiences across cultures who can all find elements in their music to relate to. Drummer Donald “DJ” Johnson and bassist Laura Lee discuss how they developed such diverse influences, singing in 16 different languages, and their support

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Living Authentically: Reflecting on Jackie Shane's...

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2020/06/30

Jackie Shane, a Black transgender soul singer, gained prominence in the 1960s with her captivating stage presence and voice. Then, in 1971, she quit her career and faded from the public eye and into a reclusive life at home. New York Times writer Reggie Ugwuwas able to track her down in 2017 and spoke to her on the phone from her home in Nashville. She passed away last year at the age of 78.Ugwu says many people see Jackie Shane as being way ahead of her time, but that she had always put it as

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Gordi on Exploring Queer Identity on Her New Album

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2020/06/26

Australia’s Gordi is out with a new album, ‘Our Two Skins.' It addresses her queer identity, something she didn't come to terms with until recently. Gordi was supposed to tour the album on a bill with Of Monsters and Men but the tour was cancelled due to COVID-19. Having just wrapped up her medical degree in January, Gordi says she’s on call to put her medical degree to work if COVID-19 cases in Australia start to spike. Gordi also discusses how the Bandcamp proceeds from her song,

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Dua Saleh on Queer Black Love and Sister Rosetta Tharpe

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2020/06/25

Dua Saleh is a non-binary multidisciplinary artist from Minneapolis who released a single this month, “body cast,” in response to the murders of Black people at the hands of police. From their experience fleeing war and genocide in Sudan to the realities of institutional violence in the United States, Saleh expresses that there isn’t a place of safety for Black people. Saleh also discusses their new EP, ‘Rosetta,' named after “the godmother of Rock & Roll,”

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Seattle’s CHOP Fuses Protest With Art

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2020/06/23

CHOP, or the Capitol Hill Occupied or Organized Protest, formerly known as CHAZ, has been in the headlines lately. On June 8th, Seattle Police officers boarded up the East Precinct on Capitol Hill after more than a week of sustained protests by residents following the killing of George Floyd by police in Minneapolis. Since then, a police-free community has spread out to Seattle’s Cal Anderson Park and between Broadway and 12th on Pine. While there were two shootings there over the weekend that

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I Self Devine on Collective Trauma and Community...

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2020/06/19

I Self Devine is a musician and community organizer from Minneapolis. In 2018 he released a collaborative album called 'Dismembered & Unarmed,’ meant to accompany the book, ‘My Grandmother’s Hands,’ by therapist and trauma specialist Resmaa Menakem. The book and music explore how white supremacy and racism affect Black bodies. “He would tell me things like race very rarely stays in the body. And I just couldn't grasp that concept,” I Self Devine says of

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Nikkita Oliver on Letting the Vision Lead the Movement

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2020/06/18

Most people in Seattle knowNikkitaOliver from her historic mayoral run in 2017. She lost the primary election by less than 2,000 votes. But Oliver is also a musician, a poet, an attorney, and the co-director of an incredible organization called Creative Justice, which works with youth most affected by the school-to-prison pipeline. She’s also been an active organizer inSeattle’s protests and advancing the demands to defund and demilitarize the police. A few weeks ago, she participated in

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Toki Wright on Minneapolis, Racism and Music

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2020/06/16

Toki Wright is a musician, MC, producer, writer, radio DJ and community organizer from Minneapolis. He recently moved to Boston and is now chair of Berklee’s Professional Music Department. He’s been making music that addresses systemic racism, oppression and police violence for years. “I don’t sit around all day thinking about race,” Wright says. “I have a lot of things I really love to do. The problem is that race impacts all of them.” Wright tells the

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The Grammys Scrap Term “Urban”

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2020/06/11

The Grammy Awards, as well as Republic Records, have announced they will no longer use the term “urban” in their award categories and music departments. Writer Jeremy Helligar discusses this welcome shift in language as a first step. He wrote a column in Variety titled, Down with Urban: It’s Time to Stop Categorizing Music by Race. “How does ‘urban' equal Black?” Helligar says. “I think [the word] has been most harmful because it’s really corporate

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Celebrating Black Lives Through Music and Protest

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2020/06/09

Today’s podcast is co-hosted by musician, community organizer and KEXP DJ, Gabriel Teodros. It celebrates the music of Black artists, some of whom are on the frontlines of the protests against police brutality, calling for long overdue systemic change. We hearfrom Minneapolis musician, Nikki Jean, who’s been volunteering as a medic during the Minneapolis protests. She recounts seeing police fire rubber bullets and more into medic tents. Teodros then shares some songs that reflect on

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