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Feminine Chaos

Phoebe Maltz Bovy and Kat Rosenfield

Problematic faves, dissident feminism, and poodle interruptions: this is Feminine Chaos, featuring cultural commentary from Phoebe Maltz Bovy and Kat Rosenfield. femchaospod.substack.com

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13:08

Premium: Ear Truthers and MAGA Wives

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/07/19

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss the post-assassination discourse, ear-wound conspiracy theorists, the MAGA wife aesthetic, and what on earth is going on with J.D. Vance's hands.LINKS:Canceling cashiers:https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1813320436702400568Who is J.D. Vance's Wife Usha and Why Isn’t She ‘Raring’ to Become Second LadyMAGA women (and men, and humans…

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15:36

Premium: RIP to MTV and How Do You Do, Fellow......

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/07/12

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss the memory-holing of Kat's entire early career oeuvre, Phoebe's theory of eternal youth, and the culture critics who want every show to be an after-school special.LINKS:A reflection from Kat: The MTV News Archive Is Gone—and That's OK-Phoebe is still angering her fellow Canadians, and has a theory: https://x.com/BovyMaltz/status/1…

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50:33

Orange Man Bad, Vegetable Man Not Ideal

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/07/04

Kat and Phoebe do a post-mortem on the recent presidential debate.Links:Biden his time: Phoebe Maltz Bovy on watching the sorry state of U.S. politics from north of the borderAmerica Doesn’t Need Momala Harris | The Free Press This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit femchaospod.substack.com/subscribe

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10:21

Premium: Truck Stop Sweeties and Lesbian SPF

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/06/29

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss a kink-shaming incident in the Cyclades, a wife-seeking incident on Twitter, and a line of clothing that repels the sun, the men, or both. LINKS:-Who needs mail-order brides when there are truck-stop sweeties? https://x.com/shagbark_hick/status/1804929793420677153?s=46&t=UOIT2B6ilGTmoEH9aY9RDQWe’re Entering a Joyful New Era of Les…

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11:05

Premium: This Sundress Will Make You Pregnant

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/06/12

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss a traumatic tree takedown in Kat's neighborhood, a whisper network for women of a certain age, and a sundress that caused a civil war amongs online trad types. (Pictured: not the sundress, but a $10 doppelganger spotted in a local Charlotte Russe just hours after recording, which just goes to show… something.)LINKS:Miranda July is…

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57:18

The Gay Divorcees Who Are Fond of Flying Flags

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/06/06

Phoebe apologizes for the print version of her bisexuals article appearing during Pride month, while Kat unpacks the controversy surrounding a certain judge's wife's flag-flying proclivities. Then: divorce! Does it make you hotter, or does it just make you sad? Links:When your wife is fond of flying flags: Inside the Clash That Prompted the Alitos’ Upside-Down Flag - The New York TimesAs CPAC dismisses claims that its stage resembled a Nazi insignia, Hyatt calls hate symbols 'abhorrent'When the O.K

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66:03

Is the Pope Catholic?

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/05/27

Kat and Phoebe discuss a Catholic kicker's commencement-speech controversy, two literary autopsies of the Great Awokening, and whether communion wafers taste like flesh. LINKS:Harrison Butker is Catholic. So What? | The Free PressThe speech in full : Bubba: A Cancel-Culture Casualty – but Not in a Town Without Pity | RealClearInvestigationsNellie Bowles and Katherine Brodsky: Jewish women dangerously recap the cancellation era in new books reviewed by Phoebe Maltz BovyKat in Unherd: Why progressives

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15:01

Premium: We Like Our Dick (and Yours)

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/05/17

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss a scandal in the pageant world, the disappearance of dick appreciation discourse, the relative dangers of men as versus bears, and the dating app that apologized for suggesting that people might want to use it to, uh, date. LINKS:Kat on the beauty queens: Miss USA and the privilege of mental health - UnHerdKat on man vs. bear: The…

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60:24

Mostly Peaceful Sexy Tennis, Anyone?

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/05/08

Kat delivers a traffic report from Norwalk, Conn., where a petroleum truck recently went boom. Then: Kat and Phoebe discuss the new sexy tennis movie Challengers, the undescended proverbial testicles of protesters, and the never-ending curse of being Harper's letter signatories.Links:The fireball that shut down the interstate! Kat at Unherd: Can Challengers make sex hot again?Phoebe at CJN: Kids on the lawn: Phoebe Maltz Bovy on the new 'youth' movement on display in campus protests across North

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57:08

NPR Voice in the Streets, Shock Jock in the Sheets

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/04/22

Kat and Phoebe discuss a very horny theater critic, an uncommonly hot historian, and Uri Berliner's critique of NPR from inside the house.LINKS:Lea Ypi: "Advice for scholars: next time you lecture on Kant and revolutions at “Downing” Cambridge, make sure your hair is neatly tied and that you’re not blonde. Or else your research impact will be on the @spectator libido section."I’ve Been at NPR for 25 Years. Here’s How We Lost America’s Trust. | The Free PressThe Real Story Behind NPR's Current

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16:40

Premium: Never Touched a Boob In Bio

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/04/13

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss the mass bisexuality of Gen Z and the BookForum takedown of Lauren Oyler.LINKS:Kat on the bi boom: Gen Z-ers Are Identifying as Bisexual En Masse. Why? - Air MailPhoebe on straight women: Straightness Studies | Who Do We Think We Are? | Issues | The Hedgehog ReviewStatistics! LGBTQ+ Identification in U.S. Now at 7.6%Rod Dreher fre…

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64:46

Heirloom Brains and Other Adventures

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/04/08

Kat and Phoebe discuss sexually adventurous podcasting, unwanted heirloom dining sets, the phenomenon of "divorce rings," the latest viral Cut essay about age gap relationships, and what to do when your foyer is too narrow to hold your collection of body parts in jars. LINKS:Kat and Phoebe on BARpodTwitter: Won’t someone think of the boomers’ furniture?I Inherited a Nazi Helmet From My Husband. What Should I Do With It? - The New York Times Divorce Rings Are Having a Moment Thanks to Emily

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14:25

Premium: My "I'm Not a Missing Princess" T-Shirt Is...

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/03/26

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss the moral quandary of missing royalty. Links:Kate announces her cancer diagnosis: https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/1771235267837321694Everyone should be ashamed over Princess Kate but me | Ben Sixsmith | The Critic MagazineOpinion | The Real Royal Scandal Is on Us - The New York Times-“I will NOT be scolded into feeling …

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72:19

Big Naturals and Big Pharma

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/03/09

Kat and Phoebe discuss breast aesthetics, 90s nostalgia, and whether we're all taking too many drugs. Links:Are We Sunsetting Ass and Entering a Golden Age of Boobs?Sydney Sweeney has brought boobs back - The Spectator WorldKatherine Dee: “I think benzos and SSRIs are overprescribed for the same reason antibiotics and birth control are. Pharmaceuticals are a lucrative industry and being sick is a lifestyle brand.”Meghan Murphy: “Popping pills won't actually address your feelings of depression or

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15:17

Premium: Luxury Sandwich

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/02/28

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe talk about the sandwich anecdote that melted the internet, how they got jobs in journalism, and the one-way feud between two memoirists.Links:The origins of Sandwichgate: I Was a Heretic at The New York Times - The AtlanticPhoebe on sandwich discourse:Kat on the battling memoirists: https://unherd.com/2024/02/polyamory-is-a-luxury-belief/

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66:10

It's Desire, It's Divorce, It's De-Lovely

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/02/18

Kat and Phoebe discuss a fun philosophical question about desire, a fine literary essay about not getting divorced, and the sacred gossip machine known as the whisper network.Is it better to desire or be desired? Many journalists, etc weigh in: The Desire Question｜DirtEmily Gould decompensates, turns decompensation into literature.Should I Leave My Husband? The Lure of DivorceThe article shall be a book! https://twitter.com/EmilyGouldNYmag/status/1757840399928844671Phoebe on Emily Gould’s

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57:53

In This House We Believe: Living Small Is a Troll,...

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/02/04

Kat tells a story about accidentally installing a public toilet in her home, while Phoebe uncovers a conspiracy within the New York Times real estate section. Then: Taylor Swift! Is she old? Fat? Mineral? Vegetable? We may never know.Links:Nobody will ever know what you’re doing behind this door (just as long as you draw the curtain first)…The latest evidence that “Living Small” is a deliberate troll:The Best Part of Tiny Living? The 'Freedom We Have Created for Ourselves.'Ross Douthat: Taylor

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5:48

Premium: Monogamy Is Not Kenough

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/01/26

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss the cringiest response to Barbie's semi-snub at the Oscars, one lady's viral tweetstorm about the scourge of Zionists in the literary world, and the multifarious polyamorous discourse du jour.Links:We've had Kenough of this sort of thing:https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1750185844219015517Dan Savage doesn’t want to hear f…

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62:26

Hetlor Youth

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/01/21

Kat and Phoebe discuss the big gay intrigue over Taylor Swift, the contemporary contours of Mean Girl World, and the missing Jews of Only Murders in the Building.Links:Kat talks awards season and royal drama on Piers Morgan: Oscars may experience a ‘vibe shift’ with actors avoiding politics and virtue-signalling | Sky News AustraliaThe Gaylor Manifesto: Opinion | Look What We Made Taylor Swift Do - The New York TimesKat's take: Why Taylor Swift can't deny being gay - UnHerdPhoebe's take: Kat on

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75:34

Is That the Chrysler Building in Your Pants Or Are...

Feminine Chaos ·

2024/01/08

Kat and Phoebe discuss a provocative underwear ad, a post-wall woman, and the stolen valor of a new book about fatphobia. Links:Mr. Underpants https://twitter.com/CalvinKlein/status/1742901431185584252Soooo… what is that building back there? Does anyone know?Phoebe on Mr. Underpants Senior: Kat's review of Kate Manne’s Unshrinking (and why is Manne using “we” to describe the people who don’t fit in airplane seats?) : https://unherd.com/2024/01/fat-positivity-is-a-fantasy/ This is a public episode

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