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Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary

Matthew Zachary Worldwide

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary is the longest-running independent healthcare podcast. 17 years of unfiltered truth about American healthcare. Matthew survived brain cancer at 21, built the young adult cancer movement from nothing, and now channels patient rage into political power. Each episode features battle-scarred survivors, exhausted caregivers, and the rare insider brave enough to name what"s killing us. Real stories from real people who refuse to accept that healthcare has to

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00:37:05

Mariana Arnaut: The After Cancer

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2025/01/07

In this lively and insightful episode of Out of Patients, host Matthew Zachary sits down with Mariana Arnaut, Founder and CEO of The After Cancer, a groundbreaking platform helping cancer survivors navigate the uncharted waters of life post-treatment. Joined by his sharp and witty Chief of Staff, Jen Ramprasad, the trio dives into the gaps in survivorship care, the rise of "cancer retail," and the moral dilemmas of monetizing support services for the cancer community. Mariana also shares the story

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00:43:36

[BONUS] The GenX/GenZ Ultimate Therapy Throwdown

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/12/31

What happens when two fresh-faced Gen Zers—Matthew Zachary Worldwide Chief of Staff Jenisa Ramprasad and Marketing Intern Lauren Woodring—sit down with a cranky, nostalgia-fueled Gen Xer (ahem, Matthew Zachary)? Chaos, hilarity, and surprisingly deep insights.This is not your typical Out of Patients episode. What started as a casual, unscripted chat turned into a generational therapy session touching on everything from floppy disks, cassette tapes, and AOL chat rooms to TikTok-induced existential

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00:34:39

The 2024 Koby & Hannah Year End Wrap Up

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/12/24

It’s the annual Out of Patients tradition you didn’t know you needed—Matthew’s miracle IVF twins, Koby and Hannah, are back on the mic for their 5th appearance! These famous 14.5-year-old personalities are here to make you laugh, reflect, and maybe even sing the alphabet incorrectly (spoiler: they hate the new version). Dive into a delightful blend of sibling banter, high school stories, Broadway show recaps, and unexpected eyebrow-shaving anecdotes. Whether it's Koby’s law class revelations or

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00:38:04

Pixel Perfect: Jordan and Anna Rathkopf

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/12/17

When life hands you a cancer diagnosis, you grab a camera. Anna and Jordan Rathkopf turned their battle with HER2-positive breast cancer into a groundbreaking photojournalistic journey. Join Matthew Zachary as he chats with the Rathkopfs about their book, HER2: The Diagnosed, The Caregiver, and Their Son, their nonprofit work, and the absurdity of pink-washed cancer campaigns. It's a raw, funny, and heartfelt discussion about navigating illness, caregiving, and the power of authenticity in art and

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00:36:27

Crossroads4Hope: Amy Sutton’s Guide to Navigating...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/12/10

In this full-circle conversation, Matthew Zachary sits down with Amy Sutton, Executive Director of Crossroads4Hope, to dive deep into the evolution of cancer support and the profound legacy of organizations like the Wellness Community. From reminiscing about pre-internet cancer advocacy to envisioning a future rooted in public health and equity, this episode explores the human side of care in ways only Matthew can deliver—with wit, humor, and an unfiltered lens.Amy shares her journey from working

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00:37:06

Pulverizing The Stigma: The Return of Robots in Jon...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/12/03

In this highly anticipated follow-up, we welcome back Jon Nelson, the man who went from battling relentless, treatment-resistant depression to becoming a pioneering advocate for mental health. Jon’s journey with deep brain stimulation (DBS) wasn’t just a breakthrough; it was a total game-changer. Now, with “robots in his head” pumping 23 million pulses a day, Jon’s mission has evolved from mere survival to a full-throttle campaign to ‘Pulverize the Stigma.’ We delve into the shocking realities of

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00:43:06

The Legend of Jonny Imerman

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/11/26

In this hilariously heartfelt episode, Matthew Zachary sits down with his long-time friend and cancer warrior, Jonny Imerman, the trailblazing founder of Imerman Angels. With candor and camaraderie, they explore the raw truths of cancer survival, sharing stories about the “two bald Jews” throwing wild Young Adult Cancer Happy Hours, and the life-changing impact of Jonny's peer mentorship organization. From organ-holding contraptions in surgeries to the myths around “losing the cancer battle,” the

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00:38:54

Cancer Hope Network: Peer Support with Purpose

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/11/19

In this episode, host Matthew Zachary dives into the history and mission of Cancer Hope Network (CHN) with Executive Director Beth Blakey and Program Officer Marielle McLeod, a young adult cancer survivor. Founded in 1981, Cancer Hope Network is a vital peer support organization that connects cancer patients and caregivers with mentors who’ve been through similar journeys. Beth and Marielle share insights on the unique value CHN offers, including the impact of one-on-one mentorship and the

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00:33:20

[HIATUS] The Inimitable Lisa Simms Booth

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/11/12

On the show today: Lisa Simms Booth is Executive Director at The Smith Center for the Healing Arts and former Senior Director for Patient and Public Engagement at The Biden Cancer Initiative. She is such an extraordinary human being who've I've wanted her on my show for such a long time and, well, here she is. Lisa has this extraordinary way to define and extoll the virtues of cancer survivorship, how far we've come in the last half-century, lessons learned from the pandemic for Nonprofit

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00:34:35

[HIATUS] Kara Goldin: Hint! Hint! (A Show That's...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/11/05

Today I talk to Kara Goldin — health product entrepreneur, breast cancer advocate, and the Founder and CEO of HINT Inc. Kara calls herself an accidental entrepreneur because she invented a product that she wanted but couldn’t find: unsweetened, fruit-infused water. Now HINT is available everywhere as a healthy and natural alternative to diet drinks. Kara honed her chops working at AOL and Time magazine, and she even interned for John McCain way back when. Today Kara is expanding HINT to include a

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00:37:12

[HIATUS] In The Bubble with Andy Slavitt: From CMS to...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/10/29

For most healthcare geeks, Andy Slavitt may be best known as the Former Acting Administrator for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). For millions more, he is the podcast hero we didn't know we needed and the one we so clearly deserved as the host of Lemonada Media's award-winning podcast, "In The Bubble with Andy Slavitt."Launched just before the world went to shit in early 2020, In The Bubble became a literal voice of reason while we were sanitizing our Amazon boxes and

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00:35:09

[HIATUS] Lithium: Not Just For Batteries

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/10/22

Dr. Sudhir Gadh is a board-certified psychiatrist and Commander in the US Navy Reserve. He is also Medical Director for the Center for Recovery and Wellness, with a core focus on low-dose Lithium, as a comprehensive approach for patients to improve brain function. Joining Matthew live in-studio, they talk about our nation is failing to address the mental health crisis, empathy in medicine, physician burnout, ongoing stigma, and, most interestingly, the history of 7-Up. You heard that right. In his

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00:32:57

[HIATUS] Ask MZ Anything with Carly Flumer

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/10/15

Returning champion to Out of Patients, advocacy badass Carly Flumer flips the script on Matthew Zachary as she takes the reins for an AMA (Ask Matt Anything) reverse interview. Hilarity ensues as we take a trip down memory lane as to how the sausage was made, the very origins of Stupid Cancer and the young adult cancer movement, and how we've arrived at today's "better problems to have." See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at

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00:25:48

[HIATUS] Dr. Ashani Weeraratna on "Is Cancer...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/10/08

Today, I speak with Dr. Ashani Weeraratna. She's a leading cancer researcher at Johns Hopkins, and President Biden appointed Ashani to the National Cancer Advisory Board. She's also a researcher at the National Cancer Institute AND the author of a new book called Is Cancer Inevitable? Her book takes us inside her research lab and reveals how new insights are leading to breakthroughs, even for patients with Stage IV cancer. We talk about those breakthroughs, what it was like growing up in South

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00:32:40

[HIATUS] 1990s Cancer: AOL or Bust with Steve Friedman

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/10/01

On the show today, my brother from another mother — Steve Friedman, is the Senior Advisor of Operations for SEER at the National Cancer Institute. (We'll get into all the acronyms later in the show because I know you're looking forward to that.) Steve was diagnosed back in the 1990s with testicular cancer while in his 20s. So he brings with him a profound perspective of progress, not just for young adult cancer, but for cancer policy, research, and institutional growth at the Federal level. While

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00:34:11

[HIATUS] The Chutzpah Show with Sarah Cotenoff

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/09/24

On the show today, I welcome 'First mover in Audio & Podcasts" Sarah Cotenoff, Former co-founder of Podsights — and, more importantly — my former intern at The Stupid Cancer Show. Losing your father to cancer as a teenager is never a good thing. But the forced maturity it gives you can ultimately come in handy if and when more crap you didn't expect happens upon you. In Sarah's case, it was — after a comedic series of misdiagnoses — Psoriatic arthritis, a condition she has had to manage and

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00:32:26

[HIATUS] Dr. Mark Lewis Is the Twitter We're Looking For

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/09/17

Dr. Mark Lewis is the Director of GI Oncology at Intermountain Healthcare in Salt Lake City. He is also a young adult survivor of pancreatic cancer, a thought leader on #MEDTwitter, and one of the funniest and down-to-earth physicians you're likely to meet. Motivated by losing his father to cancer, coupled with a genetic predisposition for empathy, his story of "when the doctor gets cancer" preaches the virtues of data and truth. Prepare to find out what happens when Sid the Science Kid meets

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00:32:18

[HIATUS] Stupid Cancer: You Know What It Is with...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/09/10

On the show today, I'm so thrilled to welcome live in-studio Alison Silberman, CEO at Stupid Cancer (my old job, as you may know), and Shannon Wyant, a fellow AYA cancer survivor and sitting committee member of the Stupid Cancer Board of Directors (also my old job as you may know.) The best conversations are those without an agenda that manifest from their own chemistry and organic magic. And what you're about to hear is no exception. So prepare your Wayback machine and your magic eight ball for a

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00:29:56

[HIATUS] Lynch Syndrome: Try To Not Get Cancer?

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/09/03

Today on the show, we talk to powerhouse couple David and Robin Dubin, who founded Alive and Kickn to advocate for those with the Lynch gene. At age 29, Dave was diagnosed with colon cancer and Lynch Syndrome. Few have heard of it, but Dave and Robin are trying to change that. Because Lynch is a genetic pre-condition to cancer that affects 1 out of every 279 people, and most people don’t even know they have it. Dave and Robin talk about survivorship, pre-vivorship, and the importance of genetic

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00:36:01

[HIATUS] This Little Diagnostic Went To Market...

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary ·

2024/08/27

On the show today, I'm thrilled to welcome – LIVE IN STUDIO — Liz Cormier-May, CEO of Mammogen, and Marty Keiser, CEO at IV Bioholdings. It's hard to blend funny, entertaining wit with healthcare jargon like diagnostics, market access, go-to-market strategy, etc. And yet, somehow, we did it. The process is gnarly and ridiculous, but now more than ever, it's actually possible to NOT GET CANCER because of much more accessible and affordable diagnostics. Some of them are free; some are even over the

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