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There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com

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Ep. 111 NBL Rewind: Kevin Maynard: People Come First

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2024/11/27

Ep. 111 NBL Rewind: Kevin Maynard: People Come FirstWith so many life changes and new listeners, we thought the holidays would be a good time to revisit our Interpodsquad interviews and reintroduce ourselves! Danielle gets the fresh scoop and we re-enjoy Bryan and Josh’s interview with the incomparable Kevin Maynard. We learn about Kevin’s surprising (but unsurprisingly wholesome) first foray into live performance, how his business and accounting background gave him a firm foundation as an arts

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Ep. 110 Lenore Naxon: The Only Constant is Change

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2024/11/20

Ep. 110 Lenore Naxon: The Only Constant is ChangeThis week the PodSquad dreams about what to do with a magical pot of money for extra programming, which leads to Katie’s conversation with friend and mentor Lenore Naxon. Lenore dives into nuances of board management, leading in the presenter consortium space, and how changes in the industry present challenges and opportunities. Lenore Naxon is the founder of Naxon Consulting (https://naxonconsulting.com/) and co-chair of the Presenters Leadership

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Ep. 109 Phil Esparza: Challenges Not Barriers

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2024/11/13

Ep. 109 Phil Esparza: Challenges Not Barriers This week we bring you an unexpected interview from our time at the 2024 WAA Conference. Bryan has the honor and pleasure of sitting down with Phil Esparza of El Teatro Campesino, the legendary Chicano theater company. We discuss the company’s history and legacy, community engagement, and trace Phil’s career from college student to performer to collegiate presenter. Phil Esparza is the Executive Producer of El Teatro Campesino

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Ep. 108: Live from MAX – Are Audiences Back?

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2024/11/06

Ep. 108: Live from MAX – Are Audiences Back? This week our hosts go back in time without the time machine (thanks, Kevin!) to when we first started presenting shows inside again after pandemic closures, and then our guests from the expo hall floor at MAX bring different perspectives on engaging with audiences in this moment to the conversation. We dig into the future of opera and classical music audiences, engaging “young” audiences now for the future, and the impact of social media and other

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Ep. 107 Live from MAX – Reflections on Equity in the...

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2024/10/30

Ep. 107 Live from MAX – Reflections on Equity in the FieldThis week Kevin shares some great news and our hosts think they are hay-larious before diving into the serious topic of changes in equity in our field. Our guests at the Midwest Arts Xpo discuss slow shifts in programming and the hierarchical structures that impede progress, and we dig deep into just a few of the challenges with contracting. Our guests this week are: Sarah Haag, Artist Wallace Thomas, Artist, Ball in the House Clare

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Ep. 106 Paul Sage Cannon: Be Brave Enough to Believe...

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2024/10/23

Ep. 106 Paul Sage Cannon: Be Brave Enough to Believe in Yourself This week our hosts get a bit philosophical before we listen to Danielle’s conversation with singer-songwriter Paul Sage Cannon from our time at the 2024 Western Arts Alliance Conference. Paul shares how his personal history informs his songwriting, how the weight of being a culture barer is both painful and joyful at the same time, and reminds us that music is a healing artform. Paul Sage Cannon ( https://paulsagecannon.com/ ) is a

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Ep. 105 Eric Olmscheid: Make Room to Dream

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2024/10/16

Ep. 105 Eric Olmscheid: Make Room to DreamWhoohoo! This week the Quad Producers celebrate our two-year anniversary! We are so grateful for everyone’s support of this endeavor and for sticking with us week after week, listening and laughing with us. This week Katie speaks with Eric Olmscheid about his journey from farm kid to arts administrator, staying focused on what’s important, and keeping audiences curious. Eric Olmscheid is the Executive Director of Wharton Center for Performing Arts on the

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Ep. 104 Live from MAX – The Cost of Touring and Merch...

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2024/10/09

Ep. 104 Live from MAX – The Cost of Touring and Merch Splits We’re bringing you round 2 of our mini-interviews from the 2024 Midwest Arts Xpo featuring five more guests discussing the costs and challenges of touring today. Our hosts also have a spirited discussion about merch splits and the changing financial pressures of the industry (but Kevin is somehow the eternal optimist?) You can find the Pitchfork article referenced in the episode here:

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Ep. 103 Live from MAX – The Art of Curation

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2024/10/02

Ep. 103 Live from MAX – The Art of Curation The Pod Squad (including Bryan’s double, Bry-Bacca) was lucky enough to spend a week at the 2024 Midwest Arts Xpo and record interviews live once again in the expo hall! This week we bring you five mini-interviews and our own commentary on the topic of curation as we look forward to planning the 25-26 season. Our guests this week are: Gary Minyard, Chief Creative Officer, Dayton Live Sarah Saltwick, Agent, Holden & Arts Associates Joshua Kane,

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Ep 102: We ❤️ Conferences!

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2024/09/25

Ep 102: We ❤️ Conferences!The Pod Squad has finished the sprint that is the start of conference season and we’re pausing to reflect on our time at the 2024 Western Arts Alliance Conference and Midwest Arts Xpo. We discuss our differing experiences of conferencing over the course of our careers, what we love about evolving conference models and what is going well, and consider how conferences can shift to meet the current needs of our industry and look to the future. What is certain is that

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Ep. 101 Taína Lyons: Don’t Say No To Yourself

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2024/09/18

Ep. 101 Taína Lyons: Don’t Say No To Yourself This week most of the crew as at the Midwest Arts Xpo, but we aren’t too busy to share conversations in the industry! This week our hosts talk about moments that were meant to be and Katie sits down with professional dancer Taina Lyons to talk about training as a young dancer, the life of a dancer, and advocating for yourself in a professional space. Taina Lyons (@dancingrunner5 on Instagram) is a NYC based dancer currently dancing with the Mark Morris

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Ep. 100 Peter Noone: Watch Every Act

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2024/09/11

Ep. 100 Peter Noone: Watch Every ActIt’s our ONE HUNDREDTH EPISODE and to celebrate Josh sits down with a living legend, Peter Noone! Peter shares stories of his incredible (and still going) career. Our host share their 100 favorite things and dream of booking the bills of the 60s. Don’t forget you can see us at MAX in booth #512 Peter Noone (https://peternoone.com/) is a multi talented entertainer known best for Herman’s Hermits Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and

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Ep. 99 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 2: Must...

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2024/09/04

Ep. 99 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 2: Must Have PassionWelcome back to Part 2 of Bryan’s conversation with Colleen Jennings-Roggensack; while you can listen to this as a standalone episode, we would recommend starting with Part 1. This week Colleen talks about EDIA, creating the New Deal for Broadway (https://www.blacktheatreunited.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/BTU-New-Deal-For-Broadway.pdf), bringing children to the theatre, and more. Colleen Jennings-Roggensack is the Executive

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Ep. 98 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 1: Broaden...

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2024/08/28

Ep. 98 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 1: Broaden Your Horizon's to be a Success This week our hosts are on the road recording in person at the Western Arts Alliance (WAA) Conference! It is also the first two-parter, because this week’s guest is a true rockstar in our industry, and a recent Tony Award Honoree. Colleen Jennings-Roggensack shares stories, insights, and lessons learned from her incredible career. Colleen Jennings-Roggensack is the Executive Director of ASU Gammage

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Ep. 97 Gretchen Shope: Defying My Own Expectations

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2024/08/21

Ep. 97 Gretchen Shope: Defying My Own ExpectationsKatie sits down with fellow Michigander and JIMMY AWARD WINNER, Gretchen Shope! Gretchen shares her passion for the performing arts, her gratefulness for her arts education, and gives us a peak backstage of the Jimmy Awards. Don’t forget you can see our hosts at the Western Arts Alliance Conference next week! You can also see us at MAX in booth #512 Gretchen Shope is the 2024 Jimmy Award (https://www.jimmyawards.com/) winner for Best

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Ep. 96 Randy Cohen: Make the Arts Unavoidable

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2024/08/14

Ep. 96 Randy Cohen: Make the Arts Unavoidable This week Kevin sits down with his Arts Hero, Randy Cohen to talk about how the arts impact our lives with a heavy focus on the economic impact. Randy shares how he got started in the arts and helps our listeners to advocate for the arts. Our hosts share arts moments along with some exciting news, that we are coming to the Western Arts Alliance Conference! Randy Cohen is the Vice President of Research at Americans for the Arts. Randy and his team

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Ep. 95 Stephanie Mayers: Leave Space for What’s Possible

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2024/08/07

Ep. 95 Stephanie Mayers: Leave Space for What’s PossibleThis week our hosts kick off the conversation talking about the great, boring, or weird PR they’ve gotten in the past, probably because they didn’t have Stephanie Mayers as their publicist. Stephanie talks with Danielle about being a part of the emergence and growth of the contemporary family music scene, running her own business, and gives us the 101 on what a publicist actually does. Stephanie Mayers is the founder of Mayers Consulting

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Ep. 94 Heather Augustine: Bother Me

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2024/07/31

Ep. 94 Heather Augustine: Bother Me Katie and Josh sit down with Heather Augustine, the head audio technician on the Tony Award-winning musical, The Outsiders. Heather gives insight into the audio side of the performing arts, shares her story of being a female in a largely male dominated role, how to take care of yourself on tour, and much more! Our hosts talk about women working backstage and how much (or how little) has changed, hiring bias, and what they would do if they won a Tony –

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Ep. 93 Eleanor and Ian Carney: Copy That, Thank You

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2024/07/24

Ep. 93 Eleanor and Ian Carney: Copy That, Thank You The Pod Squad is back! Our hosts share what they have been up to for the past six weeks before Bryan shares his conversation with husband-and-wife team, Eleanor and Ian Carney. They share their journey to creating Lightwire Theater, working together as a couple, and the importance of learning other skills in the industry. Eleanor and Ian Carney joint direct, manage, choreograph Lightwire Theater (https://www.lightwiretheater.com/). Lightwire

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Ep. 92: How to Mentor with Ally Haynes-Hamblin and...

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2024/07/17

Ep. 92: How to Mentor with Ally Haynes-Hamblin and Larry KossonAs conference season fast approaches, the NBL team has another episode to help prepare you. Mentorship may not feel like a conference prep episode, but the NBL team would like to encourage more people to participate in conference mentorship whether as a mentor (for our experienced conference attendees) or a mentee (for those new to a conference). Kevin sits down with friends of the show and experienced mentors, Ally Haynes-Hamblin

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