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The Unforgiving60

Ben Pronk, DSC & Tim Curtis

Two ex-special operations guys armed with MBAs seek out people leading lives less ordinary, in order to find out how they fill their ‘unforgiving minutes’, and what helps them go, always, a little further. Like intellectual bowerbirds, we collect shiny little objects of knowledge that will help build better humans. Co-hosted by Ben Pronk and Tim Curtis.

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All Episodes

39:30

@RV27- The Resilience RV

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/05/27

Ben and Tim talk about the book that they have written with Dr Dan Pronk titled The Resilience Shield. What is resilience and stress.... and how does the scientific proof explain how we can be more (or less) resilient. More information including the individual resilience survey is at: www.resilienceshield.com

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01:27:53

S3E8 – Pete Naschak: US Navy SEALs, Red Bull Athletes...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/05/20

Ben and Tim first met Pete Naschak when he was on exchange from the US Navy SEALS to the Australian SAS. Pete is an expert in resilience, elite performance and getting the most out of the people he works with, which has included Red Bull athletes and members of the US Olympic Team in their preparation for the upcoming Tokyo Olympic games. Of course in addition, Pete is a former US Navy SEAL, with an incredibly distinguished military career, and a current board member of the Lone Survivor

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58:42

@RV26 – On Simon Eastaugh, Lee Goddard and ‘Billy’...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/05/13

Ben and Tim look back on Simon Eastaugh, Lee Goddard and Mark ‘Billy’ Billingham before turning their attention to the withdrawal from Afghanistan- & what has been achieved. Plus, listener feedback! Reflections on Anzac Day 2021 .... and much more. As always, please let us know what you think. We’d love to hear from you – please email debrief@unforgiving60.com. Intelligence Summary (INTSUM) 01:20 On Simon Eastaugh – Assistant Coach Fremantle Football Club 06:00 Why Ben needs a

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01:16:54

S3E7 – A little further: Mark Billingham- From UK SAS...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/05/06

Former UK SAS operator, Mark ‘Billy’ Billingham grew up on tough council estate in Birmingham. Leaving school at eleven, the threat of juvenile detention hanging over his head, he was running with gangs, and almost being killed in a knife fight at 15 eventually led to Billy discovering the British Armed Forces at sixteen. Billy spent 8 years in the UK Parachute Regiment in 1983 and served until 1991 before doing the UK SAS selection course and successful joining the Regiment as a Mountain Troop

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01:08:43

S3E6- Rear Admiral Lee Goddard CSC: The Pride of the...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/04/08

Ben first met Lee Goddard on the high seas, chasing North Korean drug smugglers. Tim’s history with Lee goes back a bit further – to his very first days in the military as a young cadet at the Australian Defence Force Academy, where Lee was the Academy Cadet Captain. Since graduating from ADFA, Lee has excelled in pretty much endeavour he has turned his hand to, from crewing the tall ship, The Young Endeavour, through to command of warships on operations in places like the South China Sea and the

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01:02:38

S3E5 – Talking Elite Footy with Simon Eastaugh -...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/04/01

The very funny 6 foot 7 Simon Eastaugh knows Australian Football from both on field and off field vantage points. He was drafted from his Dad’s farm in rural Victoria to Richmond at the age of 16. He played professional football for three different AFL clubs for over a decade and then transitioned from the field into the coaches box. Simon was ruck and development coach for the West Coast Eagles from 2010 to 2013 and coached Dean Cox and Nic Naitanui with both players taking

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47:19

@RV25 – Season 3 Opener! On Mick Neven, Jacqui...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/03/25

Season 3!?! > How did that happen?! These guys should have been sacked! *** The first RV of the third season! And what a cracking season opener – the boys look back with fondness on the season’s start, and in particular the interview with comedian Mick Neven, Senator Jacqui Lambie, Iceman David Knoff and Chief Push-up Officer Nick Hudson, before turning their attention to listener feedback – and some new music! As always, please let us know what you think. We’d love to hear from you – please email

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01:10:25

S3E4 – Nick Hudson: Chief of Push-ups - The Push-up...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/03/04

Nick Hudson has the world’s coolest job title – Chief of Push-ups. As the originator and driving force behind the Push-up Challenge, Nick has raised millions of dollars in just a few short years to assist research and support into depression. The genesis of this amazing endeavour comes from Nick’s own experience, both through his family and his personal exposure to mental health challenges, brought on in part as a result of undergoing open heart surgery. In this episode, Nick tells us his story

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01:09:03

S3E3- Leadership in the Freezer- with Antarctic...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/02/25

What’s leadership like in sub-zero temperatures with busy programmes, limited infrastructure, 1 minute showers, 1 hour of sunlight a day and surrounded by the same small group of people for over 400 days? Well, David Knoff knows the answers! David is the Station Leader at Australia’s Davis Station in Antarctica. Davis Station is the most southerly Australian Antarctic station. It is situated edge of the Vestfold Hills, on the Ingrid Christensen Coast of Princess Elizabeth Land. The station is about

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01:07:09

S3E2- Senator Jacqui Lambie: No Fear, No Favour.

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/02/18

We would proffer that Jacqui Lambie is the most passionate politician in the Australian political system. From veterans affairs to the war on drugs to foreign policy she speaks with both passion and conviction. She is arguably also currently the most controversial politician in Australian political system. With a difficult upbringing, we talk about Jacqui’s early brush(es) with the law and her ten years in the military. Being pregnant through recruit training to promotion and demotion in uniform;

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01:04:07

S3E1- Comedian Mick Neven is (a) Melon Head

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/02/11

Launching Season 3, Comedian Mick Neven is back! After conquering zombie apocalypses using SAS tactics with Ben and Tim nearly exactly 12 months ago, Mick is back- as a Melon Head! We talk about what is off limits, being a Melon Head, living in self isolation, about Mick being bullied, how to write gags, stagecraft and the unwritten rules of comedians. Get your laughing gear around this..... Enjoy! www.mickneven.com.au Intelligence Summary (INTSUM) 03:30 Mick’s statistics on the Unforgiving60

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43:05

@RV24- Season 2 Finale

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/01/28

Ben and Tim have now survived two seasons without getting cancelled! (Full disclosure – no-one pays us, so we can’t really get cancelled!). In this final episode for the second season, Tim and Ben reflect on our recent discussions with Simon ‘Hawks’ Hawken and Anthony ‘Harry’ Moffitt, as well as a whole bunch of excellent listener questions and feedback – including a veritable library worth of outstanding books that we haven’t read! As always, please let us know what you think. We’d love to hear

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S2E28 – A Story of Combat, Cricket and the SAS with...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/01/21

Anthony 'Harry' Moffitt spent more than twenty years in the SAS. His multiple tours into East Timor, Iraq and Afghanistan plus counter terrorist duties were coupled with his other love - cricket! He took a cricket bat on every one of his major overseas operational tours and had them signed by the most incredible groups of people. In this episode Harry talks passionately about his beloved SAS, tempo, tragic loss and trauma and the need for us to have wider life balance. Harry is also a registered

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01:32:16

S2E27b – H Hour with Hawks: An Interview with Ben and...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/01/14

S2E27b – H Hour with Hawks – An Interview with Ben and Tim Part B of the interview by Simon Hawken (‘Hawks’) with Ben and Tim. Hawks had the misfortune of working for Tim and then Ben in a light infantry battalion in Townsville. Hawks knows them well and so it makes sense that this would turn the interview around and have him interview Ben and Tim. We talk families and fathers. Joining the military and their days as junior officers in a light infantry battalion. It’s the personal stories of Ben

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01:20:35

S2E27a – H Hour with Hawks: An Interview with Ben...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2021/01/07

Simon Hawken (‘Hawks’) had the misfortune of working for Tim and then Ben in a light infantry battalion in Townsville. Hawks knows them well and so it makes sense that this would turn the interview around and have him interview Ben and Tim. We talk families and fathers. Joining the military and their days as junior officers in a light infantry battalion. It’s the personal stories of Ben and Tim as they reminisce. Intelligence Summary (INTSUM) 02:50 About Ben’s Dad (Henk) … an army

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39:42

@RV23 – Happy New Year!

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/12/31

As usual, Ben and Tim have not been invited to any cool New Years parties, so instead bring you this special RV where they talk all things 2020 including COVID, crisis management – and a book about resilience! And we promise guests next week! As always, please let us know what you think. We’d love to hear from you – please email debrief@unforgiving60.com. Intelligence Summary (INTSUM) 01:00 Broad reflections on 2020. Not much happened…. 02:45 COVID-19 and crisis management –

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31:49

@RV22 – Christmas Eve Reflections on Louise Baxter...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/12/24

Musing and reflections on Louise Baxter and Daniel Keighran, VC And a Merry Christmas to all from us at the Unforgiving60 Podcast Intelligence Summary (INTSUM) 01:30 Louise Baxter….. the summary 03:10 What if your kids went to school in hospital…. Being that ill! 04:00 Silliness….. and Captain Starlight 05:30 The Case Study- Nathan Cavaleri. More on Nathan here 06:45 Leaders don’t need to have all the answers … it’s OK if you don’t! 09:05

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@RV21 – On Meditating with Gary Gorrow, Surviving...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/11/19

Three interviews with three amazing guests, covering a range of topics that take us from the benefits of meditation, through the battlefields of Rwanda and Afghanistan and all the way to the Australian Stock Exchange. Our discussion with Gary Gorrow was incredibly thought-inspiring and re-affirmed our belief in the positive benefits of meditation – we reflect on this, and chat talk about Tim’s experiences with meditation, mindfulness and breathing. We look back on our discussion with Wayne Jones

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01:01:53

S2E26b – Daniel Keighran, VC- Courage Under Fire

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/11/12

Quotable Quote: “Turns out if you give someone something to shoot at .... they start shooting at it!”- Dan **** Continuing with Part B of our interview with Daniel Keighran, VC. NB: We recommend listening to Part A first as it is an incredible scene setter. **** In this 2nd episode we talk about the action in Afghanistan where Dan was awarded the Victoria Cross for Australia. His version of events and what he thinks looking back at his actions. For his role in the action at the Battle of Derapet

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S2E26a – Daniel Keighran, VC - Courage Under Fire

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/11/05

Daniel Keighran, VC was born in Nambour, and grew up in Lowmead; a small town approximately 80km from Bundaberg in regional Queensland. His upbringing was anything but normal; Dan describes it as ‘pretty rough’, with a loving mother but an absent father challenging his teen years and where his one male constant was his Grandfather- himself a World War II veteran. Indeed, the first-person Dan ever saw shot was his father. Dan then enlisted in the Australian Army at 17 and served his country for 11

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