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"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

You’ll hear consequential ideas here first, and in the mainstream months later. Upstream is a curated nexus feed from the Turpentine podcast network, bringing you expert-level conversations hosted by some of the most compelling thinkers in the world including Noah Smith, Samo Burja, Byrne Hobart, Erik Torenberg, and Nathan Labenz. Guests include Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, Dario Amodei, Brian Armstrong, David Sacks, Sam Harris, Katherine Boyle, Curtis Yarvin, and many more unmissable

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87:14

E81: Status, Sacred, and Neglected Truths with Robin...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/09/28

In this episode of Upstream, Erik Torenberg is joined by economist and futurist Robin Hanson. They dissect the intricacies of human motives, the psychology of status, and the profound impact of self-deception on behavior. Robin shares his revolutionary ideas for reforming academia and his pioneering work on prediction markets and his thoughts on the future of innovation amidst falling fertility rates. — 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network:

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57:13

E80: Financial Plumbing with Patrick McKenzie and...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/09/26

In this episode of Upstream, Erik Torenberg interviews Patrick McKenzie (patio11) about the intricacies of the financial system, focusing on banking, money laundering, and regulatory compliance. They discuss several of Patrick’s essays from Bits About Money. Patrick discusses the three stages of money laundering - placement, layering, and integration - and how the financial system has been deputized to act as law enforcement. The conversation touches on the unintended consequences of strict

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62:23

E79: How Civilizations Cycle & Collapse | Samo Burja...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/09/21

This week on Upstream, we’re featuring a discussion between Samo Burja, Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg about the inherent differences between civilizations and their impact on history and politics. They explore the parallels and distinctions between ancient civilizations like Babylon and modern entities like Silicon Valley, the influence of Abrahamic religions, and how societal patterns challenge our current understanding. — 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network:

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71:28

E78: Fertility, Healthy Humans, and Ending Genetic...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/09/19

Erik Torenberg is joined by Noor Siddiqui, founder and CEO of Orchid, to explore groundbreaking advancements in reproductive technology, especially the world's first whole genome embryo screening. They dive into genome sequencing, IVF, and the ethical implications of these technologies, highlighting their potential to significantly reduce the incidence of major diseases. Noor shares her journey of bringing Orchid's innovative solutions from research to market, along with the importance of polygenic

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63:15

E77: Academic Fraud & the Spiritual Quest for Truth...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/09/14

Erik Torenberg and Samo Burja are joined by Ben Landau-Taylor, a Senior Analyst at Bismarck Analysis. Ben recently published an article in Palladium Magazine about the pervasive problem of fraud in academia. They discussed how fraudulent activities, particularly in medical research, often go undetected due to flawed peer review processes and institutional protectionism. They explore key cases, and possible solutions, including external watchdogs, intellectual authorities and regulatory bodies in

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89:55

E76: "The CEO is Always Responsible” | This Won’t...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/09/12

This week on Upstream, we’re dropping the first episode of Logan Bartlett, Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, and Zach Weinberg's newest podcast This Won’t Last. The show is an unfiltered backchannel where they unpack the hype cycles in venture, startup culture, and business.In this episode they discuss Paul Graham’s essay "Founder Mode", AI valuations, the state of the venture market, and free speech concerns with Telegram and TikTok. — 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine

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69:28

E75: The Future of AI-Enabled Companies with Omar...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/09/07

Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg are joined by Omar Shams, the founder of Mutable AI, for a deep dive into Omar’s great piece, The AI Organization. In this conversation, they explore the potential of AI to transform organizational productivity, the limitations of financial metrics in GDP, and AI's role in political processes and societal structures.This episode was recorded for Turpentine’s show The Riff. Check it out for more like this: https://open.spotify.com/show/6rANlV54GCARLgMOtpkzKt — 🔥

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65:24

E74: Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei Talks Scaling Laws,...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/08/31

Erik Torenberg and Noah Smith are joined by Dario Amodei, CEO and Co-founder of Anthropic. Dario talks about the economics of AI development, the comparative advantage of AI companies like Anthropic, AI safety, and his stance on California's SB 1047 bill. They also discuss the impacts of AI on global power dynamics, competition between the US and China, and inequality in an AI-powered world.This episode was recorded this week on Turpentine’s show Econ 102. Check it out for more like this:

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62:33

E73: Brian Armstrong on Crypto in 2024, Politics, and...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/08/23

Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase, joins Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Antonio Garcia Martinez on Moment of Zen in August 2024 to talk about the company's evolution and the broader crypto landscape. Armstrong discusses Coinbase's focus on product development, their efforts in Washington D.C., why he listens to Balaji Srinivasan, and strategies for increasing global crypto adoption.Armstrong also touches on his venture into biotech with New Limit, the changing media landscape, and the future of

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61:16

The Future of Crypto with Brian Armstrong, CEO of...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/08/22

Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase, joins Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Antonio Garcia Martinez to talk about the company's evolution and the broader crypto landscape. Following Coinbase's public listing and the recent regulatory environment, Armstrong discusses Coinbase's focus on product development, their efforts in Washington D.C., and strategies for increasing global crypto adoption.Armstrong also touches on his venture into biotech with New Limit, the changing media landscape, and the future

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55:02

E72: Eoghan McCabe on San Francisco, Tech Leadership,...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/08/16

In this episode of Upstream, Erik Torenberg sits down with Eoghan McCabe who opens up about his journey entering Silicon Valley, leading Intercom, shifting company culture, and becoming politically engaged. This episode offers a frank look at the complexities of building and scaling a tech company, coming back from personal and professional defeat, and what it will take — politically — to empower the next generation of techno-optimist builders.— 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the

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33:39

E71: Marc Andreessen on Higher Education and Tech...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/08/09

In this episode of Upstream, we’re releasing an interview from 2021 with Marc Andreessen, Sriram Krishnan, and Aarthi Ramamurthy. They discuss the higher education system's inefficiencies, high costs and lack of competition, and explore innovative education models including cohort-based learning and unbundling education components. Marc shares personal anecdotes about his college experience and emphasizes the need for tech and internet-based educational models to educational models to evolve and

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59:16

E70: Katherine Boyle on Religion, Journalism, and...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/08/02

In this episode of Upstream, we revisit a 2020 conversation with Erik Torenberg and Katherine Boyle exploring the intersection of religion and media in this tech-driven world. Katherine discusses her Washington Post article on how San Francisco's tech advancements have largely bypassed religious institutions. They explore the factors behind this gap, the emergence of digital faith, and the decline of traditional religious affiliations. Katherine also shares her insights on the media landscape

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103:50

E69: Balaji Srinivasan on the Rise of the Tech...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/07/26

Last week, Erik Torenberg sat down with Balaji Srinivasan to discuss the vibe shift to the right in Silicon Valley, particularly after the attempted assassination of President Trump. This episode originally aired in Moment of Zen. They discuss the rising tensions between tech counter-elites and political incumbents, and why tech is at odds with "America First". They explore tech's influence on politics, ideological shifts, and international dynamics affecting global economics and policies. Balaji

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56:37

E68: Tyler Cowen on Talent, the Importance of...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/07/19

This week on Upstream, we’re releasing a fascinating discussion with economist, professor, and bestselling author Tyler Cowen about how to find talented people. This was recorded in 2022 around the launch of his book 'Talent: How to Identify Energizers, Creatives, and Winners Around the World' co-authored with Daniel Gross. Tyler and Erik discuss strategies for assessing raw talent, recognizing late bloomers, and fostering an environment conducive to high achievers. They also cover the importance of

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84:57

E67: A Deep Dive on René Girard with David Gornoski

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/07/12

This week on Upstream, we're releasing a 2019 interview with David Gornoski and Erik Torenberg on the Village Global podcast, offering a deep dive into René Girard's Mimetic Theory, exploring its far-reaching societal impacts and surprising connections to ancient rituals and myths. They unpack the concept of mimetic desire and the profound influence of Christianity on society, exploring how the anthropological impact of Jesus could transform personal and socio-political conflicts. David also

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60:49

E66: Noah Smith on 2024 Election Strategy, American...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/07/06

In this week’s episode of Upstream, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg discuss America's future. They cover the 2024 presidential race, the Chevron ruling from the Supreme Court, and the polarization of the education system. Noah and Erik also discuss where wokeness goes from here, and the potential outcomes of integrating more conservatives into the civil service through initiatives like Project 2025. Noah also debunks the deep state myth and discusses the real issues surrounding Biden's age,

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E65: Bret Weinstein on Evolutionary Biology, Markets,...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/06/28

This week on Upstream, we’re airing an interview with evolutionary biologist Bret Weinstein from 2020, originally from the Village Global podcast. They delve into Weinstein's work on evolutionary trade-offs, the intersection of markets and moral progress, as well as future governance. Learn about the implications of trade-offs on various domains, from biology to economics, and how understanding these rules could shape the pathways to human progress.🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in

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73:44

E64: Richard Hanaia on Trump's Genius, Antisemitism, ...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/06/22

In this episode of Upstream, Erik Torenberg and Richard Hanania delve into the surprising support for Donald Trump within Silicon Valley, contrasting it with earlier elections. They explore reasons behind this shift, such as anti-wokeness sentiments, dissatisfaction with left economic policies, and the Democrats' anti-tech stance.The conversation also covers broader societal issues like the impact of religion, American Jews' political tendencies, and the strengths and weaknesses of America's

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80:29

E63: Balaji Srinivasan and Glen Weyl on Decentralized...

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg ·

2024/06/14

In 2019 Erik Torenberg sat down with Balaji Srinivasan and Glen Weyl to talk about the future of a decentralized world. They cover decentralized governance, politics, voting, and more. This conversation was recorded orginally for Village Global's Venture Stories.🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj -- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: The Riff Byrne Hobart, the writer of The Diff, is revered in Silicon Valley. You can get an hour

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